We lost when Phillips didn’t take the dunk

#77
#77
Zues1 said:
Phillips was so open it probably suprisred him and he hesitated a moment, then was not in position.
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The sequence had to be a complete shock to him. It never occurred to him that the defense would breakdown so badly that he could end up with a clear path to the rim without being fouled.
 
#82
#82
VolNGA1 said:
He dunks easily if he goes hard to the basket. He actually started coasting as he got close. I assume at that point he had already decided to dribble out.
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Or was told to do so "if" the situation played out. (Barnes way)
 
#85
#85
Julian and Vescovi both cost this team.

Arguably our best clutch f t shooter missed the front end, then left his man on defense. Santi is a grizzled veteran, no excuses.
 
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#86
#86
It wasn’t the dunk…. Eating clock is the right play….. it’s missing free throws. It’s missing layups. It’s bad PNR rotation.
 
#87
#87
Bad situational basketball is what it’s called. Also, a great opportunity to coach. So now, practice and film should be situational based. What do we do in this spot, with this much time left…. How do we defend etc. Deep runs in the tourney depend on situational
Basketball, scoring on blobs, defending blobs and making free throws. Great chance for the boys to start working on this now.
 
#88
#88
They said:
It wasn’t the dunk…. Eating clock is the right play….. it’s missing free throws. It’s missing layups. It’s bad PNR rotation.
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I don't understand how you can say running more clock was better than a sure 4 pt lead. Hitting FT's may not have been needed.
 
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BreatheUT said:
This after missing his front end of a 1 and 1. Just as bad or worse than Phillips play.
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The same thing happened against Auburn that led to the questionable no-call. Up by 6 and fouled, UT misses the front end and they hit a long 3 just 3 seconds later. Then the out of bounds mugging and it could have been OT.
 
#90
#90
They said:
It wasn’t the dunk…. Eating clock is the right play….. it’s missing free throws. It’s missing layups. It’s bad PNR rotation.
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Taking the points or getting fouled while shooting was, without question, the correct play. The time left was too much to run out the clock and, if that's really the plan, you have to either get away from the defenders or pass the ball. You can't hold it only to get another in bounds play because ---incredibly ---- they still have another foul to give.

It was a mistake. He'll learn from it and the team will get over it. The only folks who won't will be some of us fans who never make mistakes and see everything so clearly in hindsight.
 
#91
#91
Lurker said:
Taking the points or getting fouled while shooting was, without question, the correct play. The time left was too much to run out the clock and, if that's really the plan, you have to either get away from the defenders or pass the ball. You can't hold it only to get another in bounds play because ---incredibly ---- they still have another foul to give.

It was a mistake. He'll learn from it and the team will get over it. The only folks who won't will be some of us fans who never make mistakes and see everything so clearly in hindsight.
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I’m going to disagree… you don’t get to coach with hindsight. Game would have still come down to needing to make free throws and defend a panic PNR properly. They didn’t, so they lost.

Bad situational basketball. In a game you want to limit the other teams opportunities to win as much as possible. Eating the clock left Vandy with literally 1 way to win, and the Vols had 3 outs (score on the blob, make free throws, defend for OT)…. And they knocked it down their 1 way.

Free throws and defend a panic PNR. Improve those 2 areas and you win.
 
#94
#94
They said:
I’m going to disagree… you don’t get to coach with hindsight. Game would have still come down to needing to make free throws and defend a panic PNR properly. They didn’t, so they lost.

Bad situational basketball. In a game you want to limit the other teams opportunities to win as much as possible. Eating the clock left Vandy with literally 1 way to win, and the Vols had 3 outs (score on the blob, make free throws, defend for OT)…. And they knocked it down their 1 way.

Free throws and defend a panic PNR. Improve those 2 areas and you win.
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With respect, I don't think it is hindsight that dictates taking (or trying to take) the points. If the points are taken you have either a 4 or 5 point lead (if fouled and a +1). In either case, Vandy then has to score twice to either tie or win and they have insufficient time left to do so. Again, it was a totally weird situation due to the bizarre foul count so I see the argument. We just disagree.
 
#95
#95
Lurker said:
With respect, I don't think it is hindsight that dictates taking (or trying to take) the points. If the points are taken you have either a 4 or 5 point lead (if fouled and a +1). In either case, Vandy then has to score twice to either tie or win and they have insufficient time left to do so. Again, it was a totally weird situation due to the bizarre foul count so I see the argument. We just disagree.
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The announcer shared your errant view, as he said “smart play by Phillips”. Please explain a scenario where not scoring and gaining a two possession lead was the right choice. There isn’t one. He got flustered. You are right about that. He made a mistake. There is no explanation other than that was a mistake. In fairness to Phillips, it was one of many mistakes on our side. It was just the most visible one.
 
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#96
#96
I'm still more bothered by Santi than Phillips. Phillips is a freshman

Santi has played a ton of college basketball. Choked at the line and was no where to be seen on defense on the last shot
 
#97
#97
They said:
I’m going to disagree… you don’t get to coach with hindsight. Game would have still come down to needing to make free throws and defend a panic PNR properly. They didn’t, so they lost.

Bad situational basketball. In a game you want to limit the other teams opportunities to win as much as possible. Eating the clock left Vandy with literally 1 way to win, and the Vols had 3 outs (score on the blob, make free throws, defend for OT)…. And they knocked it down their 1 way.

Free throws and defend a panic PNR. Improve those 2 areas and you win.
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Taking an easy/free 2 points to go up 2 possessions would have limited the other team's opportunity to win. 2 possessions in 8 secs is a helluva lot different than 1. How are you not seeing that?
 
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#99
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They said:
I’m going to disagree… you don’t get to coach with hindsight. Game would have still come down to needing to make free throws and defend a panic PNR properly. They didn’t, so they lost.

Bad situational basketball. In a game you want to limit the other teams opportunities to win as much as possible. Eating the clock left Vandy with literally 1 way to win, and the Vols had 3 outs (score on the blob, make free throws, defend for OT)…. And they knocked it down their 1 way.

Free throws and defend a panic PNR. Improve those 2 areas and you win.
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Well considering Barnes went off right after it, it's not hindsight. And you always make it a 2 possession game if you have a gimmie like that. If we had a 4 point lead already, I could buy dribbling it out more. But not a one possession game.
 
#100
#100
whobethis16 said:
Taking an easy/free 2 points to go up 2 possessions would have limited the other team's opportunity to win. 2 possessions in 8 secs is a helluva lot different than 1. How are you not seeing that?
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The foul count makes it an interesting debate.... I'm not disagreeing that going up 4 is a good look. Its a unique situation in basketball that they didn't perform well in. The bottom line is, make free throws and defend the panic PNR better.... you win that game 100% of the time. Miss free throws, and don't defend and you lose that game 50% of the time lol.

Championship teams control the ball and win at the free throw line.... vols had 2 free throws, their best free throw shooter at the line, and 8 seconds to literally ice the game. They didn't.

We are having the inverse of this discussion if he dunks we go up 4... they score a quick 2.... we miss free throws fail to defend the panic play and they hit a 3.... then we are saying... 12 seconds left.... keep the ball they have to foul you.

Make free throws, defend panic..... you win.
 
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