We stink.....period

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volinreallife said:
At this point they are playing with freshman and sophomores.

Again we beat a mid major wsu team that really has not played anybody.

People were saying the samething last year about kentucky. No they are not as good this year, but at the end of the year they will be a top 25 team.
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I'm sure they will be better, but who says we won't improve?

We improved over the course of the season last year, why can't we this year?

The point is simple, this team is 7-3 and has a RPI that would put them in the tournament discussion. We haven't had any bad losses like we did last year, and we've already beaten a ranked team.

How it is you can be so negative about this team, and say last years team was better is beyond me.

I've asked you multiple times but you keep ducking it...do you wanna meet and bet money on the UK beating us by 30? You also said we'd go 15-15or worse right, I'd like to put some money on that one too please.
 
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#178
volinreallife said:
I know maymon would make this team way better, but the offense has not improved at all the whole season.

Offense is supposedly easier to fix.
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We averaged 65 points our first 7 games, 71 our last 3, I'm no Einstein but that'd appear to be improvement to me.

You can also say that against a good defensive team in Georgetown we put up 37. Fast forward a couple weeks and against a comparable defensive team in Wichita State we put up 69. I'd call that improvement.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
We averaged 65 points our first 7 games, 71 our last 3, I'm no Einstein but that'd appear to be improvement to me.

You can also say that against a good defensive team in Georgetown we put up 37. Fast forward a couple weeks and against a comparable defensive team in Wichita State we put up 69. I'd call that improvement.
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You got to be kidding? georgetown averages what 6'8 wsu might be 6'4
 
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UT IE 95 said:
We got thrashed by okie st laying 4.
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And Okie St is ranked #24 and 9-1.

It's not like this team has lost to a Marist, or an Elon, or a Troy, or a Loyola Chicago, or a Youngstown St, or a Mercer like some other SEC teams.

You b!tch about everything. B!tching about who UT has lost to is a joke. They're all quality teams. Give it a rest Debbie Downer.
 
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volinreallife said:
You got to be kidding? georgetown averages what 6'8 wsu might be 6'4
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And you continue to duck my question...do you wanna put some money where your mouth is or do you enjoy just talking out of your a$$?

You said well lose to Kentucky by 30, and will 15-15 at best...CAN WE PLEASE PUT SOME MONEY ON THIS?
 
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UT IE 95 said:
We got thrashed by okie st laying 4.
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Was that Vegas betting line or a basketball projection site. I think we both know that the Vegas line is about where the action is more than it is about their thoughts of the game. I'm pretty sure Kenpom and Sagarin had UT as a toss up at best.

Edit: I went back and looked. I actually posted it in the game thread back when UT played Ok St. Kenpom had UT by 1 point.
 
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zansdad said:
Was that Vegas betting line or a basketball projection site. I think we both know that the Vegas line is about where the action is more than it is about their thoughts of the game. I'm pretty sure Kenpom and Sagarin had UT as a toss up at best.

Edit: I went back and looked. I actually posted it in the game thread back when UT played Ok St. Kenpom had UT by 1 point.
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The 4 was the closing line in Vegas. Since it was a neutral site game it was a good guage of public perception (Vegas) and statistical strength (kenpom). Losing in the spectacular fashion that we did made it a bad loss. We'll have several chances of picking up some good road wins. We just need to capitalize on those.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
The 4 was the closing line in Vegas. Since it was a neutral site game it was a good guage of public perception (Vegas) and statistical strength (kenpom). Losing in the spectacular fashion that we did made it a bad loss. We'll have several chances of picking up some good road wins. We just need to capitalize on those.
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The way they lost was very detrimental. I worked that day and didn't see that game, I don't think I missed much. The one saving grace is the selection committee doesn't really look at how 'bad' you lose as closely as they probably should.
 
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zansdad said:
The way they lost was very detrimental. I worked that day and didn't see that game, I don't think I missed much. The one saving grace is the selection committee doesn't really look at how 'bad' you lose as closely as they probably should.
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On paper they are still two teams that are evenly matched. That game set the ball rolling for one team being in the top 25 and the other dropping out of the top 50.
 
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zansdad said:
The way they lost was very detrimental. I worked that day and didn't see that game, I don't think I missed much. The one saving grace is the selection committee doesn't really look at how 'bad' you lose as closely as they probably should.
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I think the selection committee concentrates on the 'what have you done for me lately' aspect more than bad early losses. I think they are much more likely to discount that loss to a great degree if Martin has the boys clicking as we get nearer the Dance.
 
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MphsBlues said:
I think the selection committee concentrates on the 'what have you done for me lately' aspect more than bad early losses. I think they are much more likely to discount that loss to a great degree if Martin has the boys clicking as we get nearer the Dance.
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Honestly, it seems like it changes from year to year. Remember the year UT was ranked #1 and had the #1 RPI in the country but lost to Arkansas(?) in the SECt? And then got a 2 seed? Only explanation for that is UT was punished for losing late to what was not perceived as a very good Arkansas team.

But most years, I would agree that early season games are not weighed as heavily as later games.
 
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zansdad said:
Honestly, it seems like it changes from year to year. Remember the year UT was ranked #1 and had the #1 RPI in the country but lost to Arkansas(?) in the SECt? And then got a 2 seed? Only explanation for that is UT was punished for losing late to what was not perceived as a very good Arkansas team.

But most years, I would agree that early season games are not weighed as heavily as later games.
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I remember us beating Memphis, thanks to a last minute steal by...can't remember. He was a slasher that caught a lot of flack on here. The ranking seemed like it only lasted for an hour, although I know it was one week. But I take your point, and they do seem to change things up every year in regard to selection.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
And you continue to duck my question...do you wanna put some money where your mouth is or do you enjoy just talking out of your a$$?

You said well lose to Kentucky by 30, and will 15-15 at best...CAN WE PLEASE PUT SOME MONEY ON THIS?
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Go back through the thread and see where I said we will lose by 30.(talk out your ass?)You are a joke.

You are telling me you think it is easier to play against shorter players. That is just rediculous. Height/length bothers a shooter more than anything. Hence the length of georgetown in their zone. They are on a 7-8 game run of holding opponents under 55 points. When wsu does that hollerback at me.

Talking out of your ass comes from comparing wsu to Georgetown.


As easy as offense is to fix should we still be scoring 22 points in a half?
 
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volinreallife said:
Go back through the thread and see where I said we will lose by 30.(talk out your ass?)You are a joke.

You are telling me you think it is easier to play against shorter players. That is just rediculous. Height/length bothers a shooter more than anything. Hence the length of georgetown in their zone. They are on a 7-8 game run of holding opponents under 45 points. When wsu does that hollerback at me.

Talking out of your ass comes from comparing wsu to Georgetown.


As easy as offense is to fix should we still be scoring 22 points in a half?
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Scoring 22 in a half isn't a problem when you score 44 in the second half. How about looking at the whole game overall, then again that wouldn't help your point would it?

Also, it would seem the offense is pretty easy to fix seeing how they talked about it at halftime and doubled their 1st half output.

Look, sometimes shots aren't falling. This doesn't mean the offense isn't effective, just that they're going to have to D up.. which we do every game.
 
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ranradVOL said:
Scoring 22 in a half isn't a problem when you score 44 in the second half. How about looking at the whole game overall, then again that wouldn't help your point would it?
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If they score 22 at kentucky in the first half the game will not be close. You can also count on the refs not being on the boys in orange side. Our guys are not ging to shoot 20 free throws in the first half there.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
And you continue to duck my question...do you wanna put some money where your mouth is or do you enjoy just talking out of your a$$?

You said well lose to Kentucky by 30, and will 15-15 at best...CAN WE PLEASE PUT SOME MONEY ON THIS?
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Can I jump in on this wager as well?
 
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#197
The "can we bet please" crowd gets their feelings hurt too easy and have no functioning ability to understand hyperbole. Loosen up a little and don't take everything to a personal level.
 
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#198
CCM's team got better as the season progressed last year. We are without our leading scorer & rebounder yet we are 7-3 with all 3 losses to quality teams.
 
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volinreallife said:
If they score 22 at kentucky in the first half the game will not be close. You can also count on the refs not being on the boys in orange side. Our guys are not ging to shoot 20 free throws in the first half there.
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K you're right, this team sucks, the O is putrid and we will be lucky to win 15 games.
 
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Hayezb said:
Can I jump in on this wager as well?
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Won't happen. There's some on here who spout off without thinking at all, and then when they have to put up or shut up...well they definitely don't put up.

A certain poster said we'd be lucky to go 15-15, I asked if we could bet on this and he's continued dipping the question for a week.
 
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