We the People Will Build the Beautiful Steel Slat Barrier

[Orange_Vol1321]

Once they discover the rope, whatever shall you do?

So everyone coming across is now a trained rappel expert? Lets go with the BS narrative they are. Look how slow that process is to the other 50 waiting at the ladder because a wall is there and allows BP to respond.

 

[Mick]

So everyone coming across is now a trained rappel expert? Lets go with the BS narrative they are. Look how slow that process is to the other 50 waiting at the ladder because a wall is there and allows BP to respond.

How tall do you want your speed bump?

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

How tall do you want your speed bump?

I think anything requiring them to bring a ladder to it is doing its job.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

How tall do you want your speed bump?

This is useless against a human.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

So everyone coming across is now a trained rappel expert? Lets go with the BS narrative they are. Look how slow that process is to the other 50 waiting at the ladder because a wall is there and allows BP to respond.

Doesn't take a rappel expert to do that. I'm guessing that you haven't tried it before.

Walls only work if they're manned. This isn't ancient China. Lol.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

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Children who have already grown into the world and retained memories/have identities =/= a nameless fetus that is potentially detrimental to the mother's health.

Matt Walsh has a poor argument here and you are all the lesser man for echoing it.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Once they discover the rope, whatever shall you do?

Back to snipers and machine gun nests then. Hey they escalated, it’s only fair

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Back to snipers and machine gun nests then. Hey they escalated, it’s only fair

Only if it's a privatized force.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Children who have already grown into the world and retained memories/have identities =/= a nameless fetus that is potentially detrimental to the mother's health.

Matt Walsh has a poor argument here and you are all the lesser man for echoing it.

Only if the people buy into your initial summary statement dink... which I’d say most that agree with Walsh don’t.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Doesn't take a rappel expert to do that. I'm guessing that you haven't tried it before.

Walls only work if they're manned. This isn't ancient China. Lol.

They are manned with cameras and drones. Again, it slows them down long enough for multiple agents to respond.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Only if it's a privatized force.

Public shooting range. Charge $50 bucks an hour for time on a sniper perch. Capitalism works it will pay for itself! Hell I’ll bring my own gun and ammo!

 

[NorthDallas40]

They are manned with cameras and drones. Again, it slows them down long enough for multiple agents to respond.

This point gets continually ignored by the counter left. Nobody is saying replace agents with walls.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

They are manned with cameras and drones. Again, it slows them down long enough for multiple agents to respond.

Does it? Do you have empirical evidence?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Only if the people buy into your initial summary statement dink... which I’d say most that agree with Walsh don’t.

It's not false, though. You cannot compare the two. It makes for a poor argument on top of the fact that it's little more than emotional appeal.

It's as bad as an argument saying 2A supporters are inconsistent if they don't accept school shootings as the cost of doing business.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Doesn't take a rappel expert to do that. I'm guessing that you haven't tried it before.

Walls only work if they're manned. This isn't ancient China. Lol.

You all say a wall is a waste of money that's 30 foot tall because it won't work.

Can you comment on that Arizona border picture I posted above? Isn't that a huge waste of money to you considering its purpose yet how its built?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

You all say a wall is a waste of money that's 30 foot tall because it won't work.

Can you comment on that Arizona border picture I posted above? Isn't that a huge waste of money to you considering its purpose yet how its built?

Yes.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Does it? Do you have empirical evidence?

Video shows migrant families using ladder to scale border fence near Yuma

Here’s one of the videos the left has been using as “proof” walls don’t work. All were apprehended immediately.

Also they’re being martyred as “asylum seekers”. Another worn out argument. If that’s what you want then go to the control point and request it. Is there some common sense reason these people have thinking coming in illegally then claiming asylum helps their case? I’d bet money every one gets involuntary deportation.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Does it? Do you have empirical evidence?

Yes it's called common sense. Climbing a 30 foot ladder takes time. You can't have multiple people on it. It would fail. Rappelling down the other side would take time also.

Is that the evidence you were referring to or that drones fly the border?

 

[NorthDallas40]

It's not false, though. You cannot compare the two. It makes for a poor argument on top of the fact that it's little more than emotional appeal.

It's as bad as an argument saying 2A supporters are inconsistent if they don't accept school shootings as the cost of doing business.

I’d say youre applying a false equivalency and trying to impart your view of when human life is reached on others. If there is no agreement on the point of human life beginning or if you cannot reach a common appeal to authority you both will recognize then you’re not gonna reach agreement.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Yes it's called common sense. Climbing a 30 foot ladder takes time.

Oh, common sense? We've seen *so* many walls in the atomic age, that we can say it will 100% work?

You can't have multiple people on it. It would fail. Rappelling down the other side would take time also.

Oh then I guess siege ladders never ever existed.

Unless you're talking 75+ feet (the proposed wall will not be anywhere close), it is easily scaled by rope and ladder. Most Mexicans aren't as out of shape as a huge chunk (lol) of Americans.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I’d say youre applying a false equivalency and trying to impart your view of when human life is reached on others. If there is no agreement on the point of human life beginning or if you cannot reach a common appeal to authority you both will recognize then you’re not gonna reach agreement.

Am I applying a false equivalency or is the originally quoted meme? Mine is objectively based and explained. The other is not.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Am I applying a false equivalency or is the originally quoted meme? Mine is objectively based and explained. The other is not.

I had to go back and read it. I think you’re pointing to the use of dead “kids” = live kids and reject the substitution of the word kid for fetus.

So first, we’re extrapoling a serious debate from a meme. Let’s make sure we both acknowledge that

Second I’ll submit Walsh is going to the point I made which is when he recognizes human life beginning. Is he being fast and lose with the term “kid”? I’ll concede that... and point to the immediate paragraph above.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Oh, common sense? We've seen *so* many walls in the atomic age, that we can say it will 100% work?



Oh then I guess siege ladders never ever existed.

Unless you're talking 75+ feet (the proposed wall will not be anywhere close), it is easily scaled by rope and ladder. Most Mexicans aren't as out of shape as a huge chunk (lol) of Americans.

30 ft in the air and easily shouldn't be in the same sentence.

Can you show me a picture of what your idea of a "siege ladder" is to you?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I had to go back and read it. I think you’re pointing to the use of dead “kids” = live kids and reject the substitution of the word kid for fetus.

So first, we’re extrapoling a serious debate from a meme. Let’s make sure we both acknowledge that

Second I’ll submit Walsh is going to the point I made which is when he recognizes human life beginning. Is he being fast and lose with the term “kid”? I’ll concede that... and point to the immediate paragraph above.

That's what the internet is about, friend.

 

[NorthDallas40]

That's what the internet is about, friend.

you LIE!