Well I guess it is Jancek's fault that UGA can't stop Auburn either

[butchna]

Gotta love the "logic" here.

Grantham stinks so it is OK if Jancek does no better than him.

I'm reading that Auburn might be THAT good and maybe a relatively well respected DC's charges are getting scorched...but don't let that deter you
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[vol-un-tear]

wilcox coached eric berry?

No. He came in 2010. Old man Monty coached in 2009

 

[CountVolcula]

No but he recruited the talent it took to compete in the conference he was in. I am leaving the argument of can he coach or not to you guys but it is not fair to him to say he recruited bad players to UGA and not give him credit for his recruiting at Cincy

You can recruit all you want but if you can't scheme, teach, or develop players, it does you no good


As I have stated before, Jancek had talent at Georgia

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Gotta love the "logic" here.

Grantham stinks so it is OK if Jancek does no better than him.

Yeah Grantham stinks. He really stunk last year when he almost beat Alabama in the SEC title game.

 

[PrattvilleVol]

We have no speed and no depth, and with no depth you have already slow players that are soon gassed. It's that simple.

 

[volfan411]

Did Cincy ever go undefeated? Ever only lose one game? They won the Big East. Let's not give him a hall of fame jacket yet...

I am not but someone posted the other day that Cincy's defense is currently ranked 7th nationally(not confirmed by me) and you do not do that without talent.

I have said all along I think he is a good recruiter and if hej does not succeed as a coach we will at least have a bunch of talent for the next DC to work with.

I am choicing to leave whether he can coach or not to the experts like you on here.

 

[volfan411]

You can recruit all you want but if you can't scheme, teach, or develop players, it does you no good


As I have stated before, Jancek had talent at Georgia

And for the record I agree with this 100% and I base my opinion on his recruiting by the talent he had at UGA and Cincy.

 

[VAVolsFan2009]

Frustration, name calling, disappointment, etc. Come on guys. There are so many factors that are affecting the defense, including the offense not keeping them off the field, that it is fruitless to get so upset. Let's support the effort and determination we have, and look to the future. When I look at the size, speed, quickness, and talent in our current 2014 recruiting class, all the disappointment just fades away. I really appreciate the staff taking the team back to the fundamentals during this bye week, and getting them in the right frame of mind to finish the season strong. Just building for the future. Love the Vols unconditionally. VFL

 

[sjt18]

I'm reading that Auburn might be THAT good and maybe a relatively well respected DC's charges are getting scorched...but don't let that deter you
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Whatever makes you feel better I guess. I would remind you that UGA's D is the only AQ school to allow UT over 400 yds of O.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

We have no speed and no depth, and with no depth you have already slow players that are soon gassed. It's that simple.

Good post Pratt. What are your thoughts on Jancek? Just curious. Do you think he deserves another year before laying judgement on him? Or do we need to fire him now and look for our 3rd DC in 2 years?

 

[sjt18]

Yeah Grantham stinks. He really stunk last year when he almost beat Alabama in the SEC title game.

Kidding, right? Bama put up over 500 yds of O against Grantham. UGA lost primarily because they could not stop Bama from running the ball (350 yds rushing).

That UGA D was loaded with talent and finished 6th in total D in the SEC.

 

[volfan411]

Good post Pratt. What are your thoughts on Jancek? Just curious. Do you think he deserves another year before laying judgement on him? Or do we need to fire him now and look for our 3rd DC in 2 years?

I rhink if you fire him this year no well respected DC would come in fear he would be fired after one season if he did not improve what we have seen this year.

 

[sjt18]

I rhink if you fire him this year no well respected DC would come in fear he would be fired after one season if he did not improve what we have seen this year.

Very true. But Jones choice of bringing Jancek along dramatically hurts the chances that he survives at UT unless there is a very significant improvement next year. I am not sure the personnel will be there to make that happen.

 

[KBVol]

We won that game. A win is a win regardless of the score.

I don't believe this. To me, a 3 or 7 or 10 point loss to Oregon, Bama or Auburn would've been better than the blowouts they turned out to be.

Similarly, a comfortable 28 point win vs an inferior So Ala team would've been better than the win we got by holding on for dear life at the end.

I subscribe to the idea that there are good wins and good losses, bad wins and bad losses in college football. Jmo.

 

[Wylo]

I am not but someone posted the other day that Cincy's defense is currently ranked 7th nand thenationally(not confirmed by me) and you do not do that without talent.

I have said all along I think he is a good recruiter and if hej does not succeed as a coach we will at least have a bunch of talent for the next DC to work with.

I am choicing to leave whether he can coach or not to the experts like you on here.

Not sure you know this, but he isn't coaching at Cincy. You can't even try to give him credit for their success and then clear him from any blame here.

To me it says when he leaves, the team improves.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Missouri (UT held them to their 2nd least total points of the year),

Oregon (has been held under 42 points once this year),

Bama (UT allowed 7 more points against Bama than LSU did, and allowed less points than both A&M and Ark),

Auburn (we allowed more points than anyone on their schedule so far, except W Car. We were outclassed.),

Florida (Ugly.), and

Georgia (UT was the first team all year to hold them under 35 pts. He held them to fewer points than both Clemson and LSU.)

all say hello to you, slappie.

Our slow D has played a lot of really good offenses this year.

 

[sjt18]

When a D goes from 55th to 8th AFTER a coach leaves... that does NOT help you make the case that he's a good DC.

 

[volfan411]

Not sure you know this, but he isn't coaching at Cincy. You can't even try to give him credit for their success and then clear him from any blame here.

To me it says when he leaves, the team improves.

I posted that because Count said he recruited the players at UGA and you can not blame him for the lack of talent there and not recoqnize the players at Cincy.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Whatever makes you feel better I guess. I would remind you that UGA's D is the only AQ school to allow UT over 400 yds of O.

If Georgia's D was owning AU you would be saying how much better their D is than ours. You would not have mentioned the UT stat. But because their D is looking as bad or worse than ours against AU, you don't want to admit that our D is not as bad as some think. We have just played some great teams that put up great stats on just about anybody.

Just for your information, Georgia has the 4th best rushing D in the SEC. They are 5th in total D in the SEC.

 

[volfan411]

When a D goes from 55th to 8th AFTER a coach leaves... that does NOT help you make the case that he's a good DC.

Again I did not say he was a good DC but I did say he is a good recruiter and you do not become ranked 8th without talent.

 

[sjt18]

If Georgia's D was owning AU you would be saying how much better their D is than ours.

So? It would be true. What are you trying to prove by that?

But because their D is looking as bad or worse than ours against AU, you don't want to admit that our D is not as bad as some think.

The last 3 games have been terrible. Again if you need to lie to yourself to make peace with that... have at it.

We have just played some great teams that put up great stats on just about anybody.

Well... no. UT just played some very good teams that ran over the D like they were an FCS team. If those games were respectable... fine. They weren't. They were embarrassments and performances WAY below the level of talent available to the DC.

Just for your information, Georgia has the 4th best rushing D in the SEC. They are 5th in total D in the SEC.

Does that make you feel better? Really? For your information they are 9th in scoring D and 11th in the SEC against FBS competition... and they didn't play Oregon or we both know it would be much, much worse.

 

[sjt18]

Again I did not say he was a good DC but I did say he is a good recruiter and you do not become ranked 8th without talent.

That's a valid point.

 

[JimboVol]

Frustration, name calling, disappointment, etc. Come on guys. There are so many factors that are affecting the defense, including the offense not keeping them off the field, that it is fruitless to get so upset. Let's support the effort and determination we have, and look to the future. When I look at the size, speed, quickness, and talent in our current 2014 recruiting class, all the disappointment just fades away. I really appreciate the staff taking the team back to the fundamentals during this bye week, and getting them in the right frame of mind to finish the season strong. Just building for the future. Love the Vols unconditionally. VFL

No, no I like all the I can piss over your head without even straining BS.
It's become common place around here lately!

 

[Manvol]

Could have guessed this thread was coming.

 

[volfan411]

That's a valid point.

Thank you!

You have about convinced me he is not the DC for the future I think he is currently recruiting well and we will be set up good for the future if he fails next season.