Westworld (HBO)

#151
#151
Calling it now..Anthony Hopkins is actually Arnold.

oops

just watched the last episode and realized Bernard is Arnold
 
Last edited:
#153
#153
volinbham said:
Some things to tie up:

1. Why does Dolores kill Arnold?
2. Assuming Billy/William is the MiB why does he turn on Dolores?
3. Why is the picture of Billy/William's fiancee burned into the memory of Dolores' dad.
4. Who or what is Wyatt
5. With the Wyatt question - why does he seem to have an army of hosts who he controls (including potentially the Ghost Indians that attacked the security guy).
Click to expand...

Don't forget Charlotte trying to smuggle out the Abernathy Host.

Lot to cover in one episode.
 
#158
#158
Someone help me through the many reveals here:

1. MiB is William
2. Alternate timelines (obviously)
3. We've been watching Ford's new narrative all along
4. Bernard's backstory with his son is real
5. William/ MiB owns the park, and Delos was the company he and Logan worked for
6. There are other fantasy worlds

Add whatever I'm missing.

I'm still struggling here.... so Arnold knew they would gain consciousness, and once he realized it he tried to stop the park from opening? Or did Arnold program them with consciousness and Ford disagreed because he wanted complete control?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#160
#160
chatt-townVOL said:
Someone help me through the many reveals here:

1. MiB is William
2. Alternate timelines (obviously)
3. We've been watching Ford's new narrative all along
4. Bernard's backstory with his son is real
5. William/ MiB owns the park, and Delos was the company he and Logan worked for
6. There are other fantasy worlds

Add whatever I'm missing.

I'm still struggling here.... so Arnold knew they would gain consciousness, and once he realized it he tried to stop the park from opening? Or did Arnold program them with consciousness and Ford disagreed because he wanted complete control?
Click to expand...

I am hoping Yes! In the original movie I believe there wa an Ancient Rome/Greece thing and a Medieval world.
 
#161
#161
chatt-townVOL said:
Someone help me through the many reveals here:

1. MiB is William
2. Alternate timelines (obviously)
3. We've been watching Ford's new narrative all along
4. Bernard's backstory with his son is real
5. William/ MiB owns the park, and Delos was the company he and Logan worked for
6. There are other fantasy worlds

Add whatever I'm missing.

I'm still struggling here.... so Arnold knew they would gain consciousness, and once he realized it he tried to stop the park from opening? Or did Arnold program them with consciousness and Ford disagreed because he wanted complete control?
Click to expand...

Didn't realize this was going to be a 2hr episode. Kinda needed it to tie up all the plot lines. I generally watch on Monday afternoon when my kids nap. I still have 20min left LOL.

Another revelation I noticed so far.

The maze was just a quest for self consciousness for the hosts. There wasn't anything for MiB to find. It wasn't for him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#162
#162
Saw something today online that was interesting, since Maeve was programmed to escape and all that stuff. Did anybody else notice she left the bag on the train? The article I read suggested that was possibly part of her programming to smuggle the data out of the park.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#163
#163
When girl got her arm smashed the door had a SW and most think that means Samurai World. Which will be badass if that is part of next season.
 
#164
#164
GBO18 said:
When girl got her arm smashed the door had a SW and most think that means Samurai World. Which will be badass if that is part of next season.
Click to expand...

There were SW logos all over that room. Definitely Samurai World.

Interesting since the show creators said they weren't going to go that route.
 
#166
#166
Ok so I watched the last 20min...

Holy Hayull!!!

I was a little disappointed all the fan theories were spot on about William/MiB. I wish I hadn't read them now. Would have been a more jaw dropping revelation.

Certainly did not see that ending coming.

So....

Who rewrote Maeve's narrative? Ford?
Where is Stubbs and the Ghost Nation?
Wyatt was left hanging? Or is Delores Wyatt?
What happened to Logan after being sent riding a horse nude out of the park?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#167
#167
Also....

We got the answer as to how the picture of Logan's sister ended up floating around in WW but why did that picture set off Delores' dad? What was it about THAT picture that triggered him?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#168
#168
Was it just me or did the blonde chick with the tattoos get dramatically hotter in the scene where they were moving through the facility shooting people?
 
#169
#169
chatt-townVOL said:
Someone help me through the many reveals here:

1. MiB is William
2. Alternate timelines (obviously)
3. We've been watching Ford's new narrative all along
4. Bernard's backstory with his son is real
5. William/ MiB owns the park, and Delos was the company he and Logan worked for
6. There are other fantasy worlds

Add whatever I'm missing.

I'm still struggling here.... so Arnold knew they would gain consciousness, and once he realized it he tried to stop the park from opening? Or did Arnold program them with consciousness and Ford disagreed because he wanted complete control?
Click to expand...

Arnold tried to give them consciousness via memories and improvisation. Not clear to me if Dolores figured out the maze the first time before he died (which triggered him to try to shut the place down) or he just saw other signs.

Ford was against (and didn't believe it was possible) but if I understand correctly losing Arnold (the suffering) revealed to him the secret for the hosts - they need suffering to try to change their situation. He added the reveries to assist and much like the Jews wandering the desert had them go through repeated sufferings until they were ready for freedom (he was God afterall and he used the David painting to explain his reasoning that you are created by your mind - he changed from creator to mind freer).

Unanswered questions for me:

1. Ghost nation
2. What ultimately happened to Logan (minor detail)
3. Who reprogrammed Maeve
4. Who was trying to smuggle out data via the satellite
5. Does MiB buy it at the end or is he spared for more.


RE: Wyatt - I'm thinking he was just a memory put into the hosts that also linked them to the original slaughter of hosts by Dolores/Wyatt. Teddy participated in "both" but remembered it as Wyatt at first then as partner to Dolores.
 
Last edited:
#170
#170
It's hard to tell continuity errors since the whole thing is loops but when Arnold woke up a half-finished Dolores (cool scene BTW) he was programming her with the flip out devices they currently use. However, technically that occurred 35 years or so before.

Also I thought the security and clean up parts of the story line were weak. At times centcom knew exactly where every host and human was. Other times it seemed it was all a mystery.
 
#171
#171
GBO18 said:
Saw something today online that was interesting, since Maeve was programmed to escape and all that stuff. Did anybody else notice she left the bag on the train? The article I read suggested that was possibly part of her programming to smuggle the data out of the park.
Click to expand...

I noticed that too. Interesting theory.
 
#172
#172
Was Ford making another Ford in the remote lab? Did he already make one that took his place for the unveiling?

Seems possible but some of his words at the end suggest he really was going to be gone.
 
#175
#175
volinbham said:
Arnold tried to give them consciousness via memories and improvisation. Not clear to me if Dolores figured out the maze the first time before he died (which triggered him to try to shut the place down) or he just saw other signs.

Ford was against (and didn't believe it was possible) but if I understand correctly losing Arnold (the suffering) revealed to him the secret for the hosts - they need suffering to try to change their situation. He added the reveries to assist and much like the Jews wandering the desert had them go through repeated sufferings until they were ready for freedom (he was God afterall and he used the David painting to explain his reasoning that you are created by your mind - he changed from creator to mind freer).

Unanswered questions for me:

1. Ghost nation
2. What ultimately happened to Logan (minor detail)
3. Who reprogrammed Maeve
4. Who was trying to smuggle out data via the satellite
5. Does MiB buy it at the end or is he spared for more.


RE: Wyatt - I'm thinking he was just a memory put into the hosts that also linked them to the original slaughter of hosts by Dolores/Wyatt. Teddy participated in "both" but remembered it as Wyatt at first then as partner to Dolores.
Click to expand...


Pretty sure it was Charolette trying to smuggle out the information.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top