What’s the likelihood that we see civil unrest soon?

[GordonC]

Everyone falls somewhere between those two on the continuum.

Nope, they're pretty close together.
Is the continuum linear or cyclical?

 

[GVF]

Everyone falls somewhere between those two on the continuum.

You embellish yourself. Insane is a better position on your continuum. You're further out.

 

[Septic]

Not all of them. Some of them die too.

Sure they do, but the number is a small, small fraction when compared to the unvaccinated.

 

[NEO]

Masks aren't common sense and a lot of the data shows they don't do much. But if asked by a private business one should respect their wishes or not enter

You have mellowed a lot in the past few years.

 

[1vol8]

I'm with you. These type mandates are way outside the constitution, and the given power of the office. and people that try to compare it to small pox, et al., vaccines is laughable. I'm totally not against a person deciding to get the shot. The only absolute reason I did (my second is this weekend) is solely to ease my wife's mind. I'm more than positive I have natural immunity, though I have no proof I've had Covid. My one and only test for work was negative, but I've never gone out of my way to avoid contact. But, to appease her fear that if I ever did get it and died, the bills would eat up the life insurance. I wasn't happy about giving in, but it was not worth marital strife. And, my step-son has twin preemies that are now 3 months old and I haven't been able to make the trip yet. I would not cast the fear upon them that I would come around the grand babies that are just now reaching an actual birth weight. I'd have been more than happy to dare the gov to try and tie me down for it though. I like your idea to have the employer sign off on you taking the shot. Creative.

You never hear my say anyone is stupid for taking it. I think to each their own. Babies? I get it. Older? I get it. Weak immune system? I get it. But don’t” force “ your beliefs on me.

 

[luthervol]

Nope, they're pretty close together.
Is the continuum linear or cyclical?

The sanity continuum is U shaped. duh

 

[luthervol]

You never hear my say anyone is stupid for taking it. I think to each their own. Babies? I get it. Older? I get it. Weak immune system? I get it. But don’t” force “ your beliefs on me.

Can we force you to wear pants at the mall?

 

[hog88]

I believe most (maybe just some) people understand that their is a balance between individual rights and societal rights. It is impossible to have one without the other. The debate has to be about the proper balance.

Your individual freedom to walk into a hospital without wearing a mask is outweighed by society's right to have a hospital where reasonable precautions can be demanded for the safety of the people being treated.

Society has no rights, only the individual.

 

[hog88]

Can we force you to wear pants at the mall?

The property owner can. There shouldn't be any laws against nudity.

 

[luthervol]

Society has no rights, only the individual.

Individuals have the right to collectively establish rights for the betterment of the society in which they live.
That may be the greatest of all individual rights.

 

[GVF]

Who's talking about masks? I'm talking about vaccines.

I'm all for your right to choose and do not support a vaccination requirement, but not choosing to be vaccinated is dumb and subject to my ridicule. Especially when the rationale is filled with personal anecdotes and false dichotomies. We all win when there is less people dying, less serious illness which results in stability in financial, housing, manufacturing and other markets. You toss around a 1% mortality rate like that's the only thing that should matter, there's far more to it than that but you'll need to think bigger to reconcile it.

Government is a shady practice. They rolled out this vaccine with no background on where it came from, and protected Big Pharma from legalities. One more trust issue to throw on the pile. Then of course, there's pitiful Biden's approach to promoting it. And the ever dependable Fauci. People aren't refusing the vaccine. They are refusing those people and government overreach. It behaves and manifest, and mutates as though it is merely a super flu variant. In which case you cannot eradicate it.

 

[1vol8]

Can we force you to wear pants at the mall?

You gotta do better than that man. Let’s be reasonable and a little less obvious.

 

[luthervol]

The property owner can. There shouldn't be any laws against nudity.

Society begs to differ.
Once again, society wins and gets to make the call.

 

[lostsheep]

Masks aren't common sense and a lot of the data shows they don't do much. But if asked by a private business one should respect their wishes or not enter

To each their own. Masks are common sense to me during this pandemic. Either way, you do you.
Agree on the private biz part.

 

[luthervol]

You gotta do better than that man. Let’s be reasonable and a little less obvious.

I'm just trying to establish your baseline.
Hogg is the only one who is consistent, and everyone sees how absurd his stance ultimately is.....but at least he is absurdly consistent.

 

[GVF]

Sure they do, but the number is a small, small fraction when compared to the unvaccinated.

Until this came along, the flu caused annual deaths in the 40,000 plus or minus range. It seems to have been absorbed into Covid-19. How do you feel about people not taking flu shots. They have similar behaviors. If it weren't for my wife and my preemie grand babies, I wouldn't have set foot near that needle. Quite immune, and I trust that more. Same with flu. Never catch it. Never go out of my way to avoid it. don't take the flu shot. Never gone out of my way to avoid Covid. May have had it. Not for sure. But, never hid from it. Never hid in my house.

 

[hog88]

Individuals have the right to collectively establish rights for the betterment of the society in which they live.
That may be the greatest of all individual rights.

No.

 

[hog88]

Society begs to differ.
Once again, society wins and gets to make the call.

Force and violence makes the call.

 

[GVF]

Masks aren't common sense and a lot of the data shows they don't do much. But if asked by a private business one should respect their wishes or not enter

I respect that, and have done that even though I disagree. House rules. When I was not in the mood to comply with requests, I quietly turned around and left. It does not require making a scene one way or the other. Those people that try to attack and shame someone for not having one on should have their A** duct taped. and vice versa.

 

[lukeneyland]

I see. You headed up to the capital by any chance this coming weekend?

Yeah we’re gonna grab lunch together after the Vols game and have a thoughtful conversation with Joe and Camel. We’ll grab dinner with Nancy and then head to mosque with Rasheeda and her Taliban pals afterward. Great day planned

 

[luthervol]

No.

Of course they do. You have to be giggling at yourself.

Let's try these:
Do your neighbors have the right to stop you from burning toxic materials on your property?

Do your neighbors living downstream have the right to stop you from pouring poisons in the stream as it runs through your property?

 

[luthervol]

Force and violence makes the call.

Sometimes, in the short run.

 

[hog88]

Of course they do. You have to be giggling at yourself.

Let's try these:
Do your neighbors have the right to stop you from burning toxic materials on your property?

Do your neighbors living downstream have the right to stop you from pouring poisons in the stream as it runs through your property?

That goes back to nobody has the right to harm others. What's so ****ing difficult about that for you?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Of course they do. You have to be giggling at yourself.

Let's try these:
Do your neighbors have the right to stop you from burning toxic materials on your property?

Do your neighbors living downstream have the right to stop you from pouring poisons in the stream as it runs through your property?

Are you suggesting hog $hits in his neighbor's creek?

 

[1vol8]

I'm just trying to establish your baseline.
Hogg is the only one who is consistent, and everyone sees how absurd his stance ultimately is.....but at least he is absurdly consistent.

There is no “baseline” with me. It’s either right or wrong. For example: there isn’t 32 genders. There are only 2 genders and 30 different types of gay. There is no world where a man should legally be able to walk in a public bathroom behind a little girl. There is no world where men should be able to compete in women’s sports. There is no world where you fund and arm the enemy without being convicted of treason. There is no world where you genetically engineer viruses and call it innocent.