What’s the likelihood that we see civil unrest soon?

#1,728
#1,728
luthervol said:
That's a pretty simple question to answer. I'd be happier if another customer shot and killed the nut.
Another thing that would make me happy is if fewer nuts were walking around with guns in the first place.
Click to expand...
We ALL want fewer nuts walking around with guns. But we can’t stop them from obtaining them. So “winning” the anti gun war doesn’t make you safer. It endangers everyone more because there’s NO chance anyone will be there to help in a situation like that. It essentially eliminates YOUR only line of possible defense as an anti gunner. I hope to god no one here ever finds themselves in that situation but if you ever did I know you’d be thanking that pro 2A advocate from the bottom of your heart and it may even change the way you view it.
 
#1,729
#1,729
1vol8 said:
We ALL want fewer nuts walking around with guns. But we can’t stop them from obtaining them. So “winning” the anti gun war doesn’t make you safer. It endangers everyone more because there’s NO chance anyone will be there to help in a situation like that. It essentially eliminates YOUR only line of possible defense as an anti gunner. I hope to god no one here ever finds themselves in that situation but if you ever did I know you’d be thanking that pro 2A advocate from the bottom of your heart and it may even change the way you view it.
Click to expand...
You don't understand my positions. x guns in y months is one simple thing that would only harm those dealing illegally in guns.
 
#1,730
#1,730
NashVol11 said:
This must be the “civil unrest” I keep hearing about

School staffer wears blackface to ‘protest’ vaccine mandate as Rosa Parks
Click to expand...
Look around you and stop taking shots. If you’re paying attention you’ll notice more and more flags being flown (American, Dont tread on me, Rebel, 2A , F- Biden etc.). Trump signs are everywhere and Biden signs disappeared. Everywhere you go (if it’s anything like here) you see someone or 5 wearing a t-shirt with red, white and blue or something political. These are all signs that people are starting to rebel. Meanwhile, Biden keeps poking. If I had to guess, I’d give the chances about 5% right now. But it’s going up with every swipe at freedom Biden takes and it doesn’t seem to have an end in sight. His agenda is clear to see and he’s not wasting any time trying to get there.
 
#1,731
#1,731
luthervol said:
You don't understand my positions. x guns in y months is one simple thing that would only harm those dealing illegally in guns.
Click to expand...
I may be misunderstanding. But when you say any gun that “can” fire 20+ in less than 5 seconds as a standard of identifying an assault weapon, it lends one to believe that’s every gun. Because it is outside of revolvers. Put yourself in that same situation and the only one there only has 6 shots vs an AR-15 and suddenly it’s not a fair fight. Give him 20+ with an extra magazine and YOUR chances of survival just went up substantially. See where I’m going?
 
#1,732
#1,732
luthervol said:
You don't understand my positions. x guns in y months is one simple thing that would only harm those dealing illegally in guns.
Click to expand...
Actually no. I bought 10 guns between December and March last year and I’m not crazy nor am I a criminal. I just love guns.

Now one thing I do agree with the left on is I wish there were a way to stop individual sales at gun shows without a background check. There’s just no way to do it without a registry that I can think of. The only thing I can think of is a law that prohibits individuals to set up at gun shows. But then they’ll just do it in the parking lot. So it’s a wasted effort to try and stop until someone smarter than me thinks of something.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rickyvol77 and luthervol
#1,733
#1,733
1vol8 said:
I may be misunderstanding. But when you say any gun that “can” fire 20+ in less than 5 seconds as a standard of identifying an assault weapon, it lends one to believe that’s every gun. Because it is outside of revolvers. Put yourself in that same situation and the only one there only has 6 shots vs an AR-15 and suddenly it’s not a fair fight. Give him 20+ with an extra magazine and YOUR chances of survival just went up substantially. See where I’m going?
Click to expand...
Yea, I get all the angles.
I think 700 rounds in 1 second is to many, unnecessary, and will do far more harm than any potential good.
Do you see where I'm going?
There is a point at which it borders the absurd and there is no good argument to be made as to why it should be legally available.
Just because it can to manufactured, doesn't mean it should be allowed.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1vol8
#1,734
#1,734
This whole debate is pretty much laughable at this point. The founding fathers in their wisdom and experience of tyranny, made it a priority to make sure the populace could not be forced into disarmament in order to avoid such tyranny again. It shouldn’t matter not what anyone thinks is an assault weapon or not. What weapon one owns nor how many rounds it fires per second is none of anyone’s business according to the Constitution, as it was intended to be and should be. There were people before us that understood what an outgunned populace could have to endure.
 
  • Like
Reactions: UT_Dutchman, 1vol8 and Caculator
#1,735
#1,735
luthervol said:
Yea, I get all the angles.
I think 700 rounds in 1 second is to many, unnecessary, and will do far more harm than any potential good.
Do you see where I'm going?
There is a point at which it borders the absurd and there is no good argument to be made as to why it should be legally available.
Just because it can to manufactured, doesn't mean it should be allowed.
Click to expand...

Here in America, it's not what you need, it's what you want.
 
#1,736
#1,736
luthervol said:
Yea, I get all the angles.
I think 700 rounds in 1 second is to many, unnecessary, and will do far more harm than any potential good.
Do you see where I'm going?
There is a point at which it borders the absurd and there is no good argument to be made as to why it should be legally available.
Just because it can to manufactured, doesn't mean it should be allowed.
Click to expand...
I get the concern but one thing you got to realize is that anti 2A advocates are targeting the wrong group of people. You can get the AR-15s and AK-47s away from guys like me but you CANT get them away from the guys committing the crimes that were being held accountable for. Therefore if the criminals have a gun that shoots 700+ a second, I want that gun too.
 
#1,738
#1,738
1vol8 said:
I get the concern but one thing you got to realize is that anti 2A advocates are targeting the wrong group of people. You can get the AR-15s and AK-47s away from guys like me but you CANT get them away from the guys committing the crimes that were being held accountable for. Therefore if the criminals have a gun that shoots 700+ a second, I want that gun too.
Click to expand...
We can just respectfully disagree at this point.
 
#1,741
#1,741
JOEY'S ALL VOL !!! said:
This whole debate is pretty much laughable at this point. The founding fathers in their wisdom and experience of tyranny, made it a priority to make sure the populace could not be forced into disarmament in order to avoid such tyranny again. It shouldn’t matter not what anyone thinks is an assault weapon or not. What weapon one owns nor how many rounds it fires per second is none of anyone’s business according to the Constitution, as it was intended to be and should be. There were people before us that understood what an outgunned populace could have to endure.
Click to expand...
That's not the way the courts have ruled.......plus it's an absurd position.
Go buy yourself an aircraft carrier, some fighter jets, a couple of tanks, and throw in a few of MOABs and a nuke for good measure.
The public being armed like the military is not only absurd but impossible. The founding fathers knew this.
 
#1,742
#1,742
1vol8 said:
That anti 2A is targeting the wrong people or the 700+ gun? Because I think we both realize the 700+ gun was hypothetical
Click to expand...
The 700 rounds per second was meant to show the absurdity of no limits.
If needed, make it a million rounds that spray indiscriminately in one tenth of a second.
The people for rational and reasonable regulations on firearms are primarily targeting the right people.
 
#1,743
#1,743
luthervol said:
The 700 rounds per second was meant to show the absurdity of no limits.
If needed, make it a million rounds that spray indiscriminately in one tenth of a second.
The people for rational and reasonable regulations on firearms are primarily targeting the right people.
Click to expand...
We’re going overboard. I’d have to do some studying up on how many rounds per second today’s semi automatic rifles and handguns are “capable” of but it’s nowhere near the hypothetical. Point is even today we’re already outgunned by some gangsters. They don’t give a rats ass about the ban on automatic weapons so don’t think they won’t use them. And that’s the reason I say the left is targeting the wrong group. I’ve heard very little of any about the inner cities when it comes to gun control. But that’s where the “stats” come from. They know it, We know it but still the concentration is on legal gun owners.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Caculator
#1,745
#1,745
Simple... gotta ask the question. What ya gonna do when they come for you? History says the Patriots will defend freedom. Not too complex of a concept.... that is why we have documented our history.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1vol8
#1,746
#1,746
I’m thinking the spin calling Jan 6 an “insurrection” has placed the next action will be violent.
 
#1,747
#1,747
1vol8 said:
I get the concern but one thing you got to realize is that anti 2A advocates are targeting the wrong group of people. You can get the AR-15s and AK-47s away from guys like me but you CANT get them away from the guys committing the crimes that were being held accountable for. Therefore if the criminals have a gun that shoots 700+ a second, I want that gun too.
Click to expand...

So if they show up at your house to take your guns, you'll politely turn them over? I guess I was wrong about your cosplay revolutionary tendencies in the other thread. I apologize.
 
#1,749
#1,749
Orangeburst said:
Who is they?
Click to expand...
The government fellas that are gonna take all our guns.

Edit: keep in mind that @1vol8 and I have been discussing the impacts of future "civil unrest." I'm still not sure if he defines it as the libs rising up in the face of conservative oppression or the conservatives rising up in the face of liberal oppression.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top