What has to happen for Tennessee to get into the playoffs now?

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JMSqb11 said:
I’ll be honest, I don’t think we really have to worry about SEC games… there are so many non SEC teams in the rankings that could send us into the playoff
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Certainly! But besides the Irish, I don't see any game on any teams schedule that is a real possibility.
Oregon is 100% safe.
A win or loss for TOSU and IU doesn't matter to us unless they lose the next one too. I can't see either team doing that.
Penn State COULD slip up at Minnesota but highly unlikely. So that's 3 from that conference taking two at large bids we ain't catching unless they catch on fire
Miami is irrelevant because it they slip up, SMU just takes their spot. The ACC is auto. Qualifier only imo. They say conference championships won't matter but it's the only thing that matters for the ACC. We would jump the at large team.
That leaves the SEC and Notre Dame. I'm a huge Sooner, Gator, black knights, and Trojan fan right now. Those four teams and maaaaybe georgia tech. I see no way we get in unless one of those 5 happen
 
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VolCalls said:
Right - those are currently all at-large teams. Or Notre Dame, or Penn State, or Indiana (maybe).
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I can guarantee the B1G is going to lobby for Indiana, whether they win or lose as that is their only path to 4 teams in and they want the same number as the SEC and the home field advantage in the first round for the teams that don't get a bye.

If Indiana loses closely that will keep them in the mix. If it is not close, do they suffer the fate that the other teams who lose have seen - i.e. 7 to 8 positions fall that would put them on the outside looking in? Or does the committee protect the 4th B1G team from potential elimination.

There has been a lot of noise this week from the various conferences.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Both BYU and Colorado are ahead of Army right now. Arizona State is 2 spots lower. If both BYU and Colorado win out the winner of the B12 game will be ranked higher than Army and may even jump Boise State. It would take both of those teams losing to open up a slot for Army ahead of them.
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Remember an Army win over ND could move them up 6-7 spots and ahead of the Big 12 teams…could even knock big12 out completely if Boise was ahead also…unlikely? Yes but surely possible
 
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volfan102455 said:
I can guarantee the B1G is going to lobby for Indiana, whether they win or lose as that is their only path to 4 teams in and they want the same number as the SEC and the home field advantage in the first round for the teams that don't get a bye.

If Indiana loses closely that will keep them in the mix. If it is not close, do they suffer the fate that the other teams who lose have seen - i.e. 7 to 8 positions fall that would put them on the outside looking in? Or does the committee protect the 4th B1G team from potential elimination.

There has been a lot of noise this week from the various conferences.
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If Indiana gets beaten convincingly, it will be very interesting to see what the committee does with them next week. However, I firmly believe they are going to give OSU a game for four quarters. They have just as much to prove as anyone - that they legitimately belong and aren’t just a media darling as a Cinderella.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
Certainly! But besides the Irish, I don't see any game on any teams schedule that is a real possibility.
Oregon is 100% safe.
A win or loss for TOSU and IU doesn't matter to us unless they lose the next one too. I can't see either team doing that.
Penn State COULD slip up at Minnesota but highly unlikely. So that's 3 from that conference taking two at large bids we ain't catching unless they catch on fire
Miami is irrelevant because it they slip up, SMU just takes their spot. The ACC is auto. Qualifier only imo. They say conference championships won't matter but it's the only thing that matters for the ACC. We would jump the at large team.
That leaves the SEC and Notre Dame. I'm a huge Sooner, Gator, black knights, and Trojan fan right now. Those four teams and maaaaybe georgia tech. I see no way we get in unless one of those 5 happen
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I think Penn State falls out if they lose to Minnesota. They don’t have any quality wins to offset a second loss.
 
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VolCalls said:
If Indiana gets beaten convincingly, it will be very interesting to see what the committee does with them next week. However, I firmly believe they are going to give OSU a game for four quarters. They have just as much to prove as anyone - that they legitimately belong and aren’t just a media darling as a Cinderella.
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I think the committee is going to find a way to keep them in unless the loss is one that can't be explained away.
 
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VolCalls said:
If Indiana gets beaten convincingly, it will be very interesting to see what the committee does with them next week. However, I firmly believe they are going to give OSU a game for four quarters. They have just as much to prove as anyone - that they legitimately belong and aren’t just a media darling as a Cinderella.
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They definitely do not belong
 
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VolCalls said:
I think Penn State falls out if they lose to Minnesota. They don’t have any quality wins to offset a second loss.
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Minnesota is not ranked - BYU lost to an unranked team and dropped 8. If they are consistent PSU drops at least 8 and below the SEC contingent if the SEC contingent all win.
 
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UT97Vol said:
That is not true. The highest rated conference champs get the byes regardless of conference. Every P4 conference is guaranteed a spot not a top four seed.
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Wrong. The power 4 gets the top 4 seeds. Then the highest ranked team from other conferences.
 
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And I would like to see both PSU and Indiana lose - just because I think the top of the rankings is too B1G heavy.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
Certainly! But besides the Irish, I don't see any game on any teams schedule that is a real possibility.
Oregon is 100% safe.
A win or loss for TOSU and IU doesn't matter to us unless they lose the next one too. I can't see either team doing that.
Penn State COULD slip up at Minnesota but highly unlikely. So that's 3 from that conference taking two at large bids we ain't catching unless they catch on fire
Miami is irrelevant because it they slip up, SMU just takes their spot. The ACC is auto. Qualifier only imo. They say conference championships won't matter but it's the only thing that matters for the ACC. We would jump the at large team.
That leaves the SEC and Notre Dame. I'm a huge Sooner, Gator, black knights, and Trojan fan right now. Those four teams and maaaaybe georgia tech. I see no way we get in unless one of those 5 happen
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If Ohio State beats Indiana big they will be out. No way the survive if they get clobbered.
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
Wrong. The power 4 gets the top 4 seeds. Then the highest ranked team from other conferences.
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Not true, the four highest ranked conference champs get the four byes. The Group of 5 team could be ahead of the Big 12 or ACC champ champs and get the #4 seed.
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
If Ohio State beats Indiana big they will be out. No way the survive if they get clobbered.
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Correct. I think the argument / comparison of an 11-1 Indiana with a blowout loss to OSU vs a 10-2 Tennessee would be interesting. In regards to pure fan travel and money generation, Tennessee wins easily.... CFP doesn't want blowouts in the first edition of the expanded playoff
 
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Woodlawn VOL said:
Wrong. The power 4 gets the top 4 seeds. Then the highest ranked team from other conferences.
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I googled - there are a host of different rules out there. The original rules factored in there being 5 P4 conferences and with the original rules the best of those 5 got the byes.

There are different rules -

- The original rules when there were 5 P4 conference and those rules had the non P4 conferences only getting one candidate for a bye.
- Now it seems there are rules that may allow for multiple from the non P4 conferences. Thus, there are treating all conferences equal when they really aren't.
 
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KnoxRealtorVOL said:
They definitely do not belong
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I believe the same thing about Indiana but if they play it close with OSU they may have a path. It will be interesting to see how OSU plays if they get up say 14. Will they just go conservative, run clock and take a 2 score win or less to give another conference team a chance and bring some extra dollars in for the B1G.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Correct. I think the argument / comparison of an 11-1 Indiana with a blowout loss to OSU vs a 10-2 Tennessee would be interesting. In regards to pure fan travel and money generation, Tennessee wins easily.... CFP doesn't want blowouts in the first edition of the expanded playoff
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I think they are probably okay with that if the blowouts are in the first round at the on-campus sites if the pairing is against a team that will generate money.

That will not play out as well for the games that are connected to the bowls and require travel by both schools. Pretty sure they do not want half-filled stadiums.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Correct. I think the argument / comparison of an 11-1 Indiana with a blowout loss to OSU vs a 10-2 Tennessee would be interesting. In regards to pure fan travel and money generation, Tennessee wins easily.... CFP doesn't want blowouts in the first edition of the expanded playoff
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Yes, an interesting argument UTs worse loss of the 2 was to Arkansas who is 34th per ESPN FPI and none of Indiana's wins are over anyone with a higher FPI than Arkansas. It will all play out on the OSU score IMO.
 
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Guess we all need to become Gator fans this weekend ..... and MS State or Yellowjacket fans the following weekend!

Actually, would love to keep Ole Miss in the picture and watch Auburn and Ga Tech wipe out their rivals Thanksgiving weekend.
 
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volfan102455 said:
I googled - there are a host of different rules out there. The original rules factored in there being 5 P4 conferences and with the original rules the best of those 5 got the byes.

There are different rules -

- The original rules when there were 5 P4 conference and those rules had the non P4 conferences only getting one candidate for a bye.
- Now it seems there are rules that may allow for multiple from the non P4 conferences. Thus, there are treating all conferences equal when they really aren't.
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The power 4 conferences get the top 4 bye’s all the folks on TV have said that. Nobody else outside the power 4 is ranked high enough to earn a top 4 seed anyway. Edit I was wrong.
 
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UT97Vol said:
Absolutely not true. Dude they just released the latest and Boise is 4. LMAO.
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UT97Vol said:
Absolutely not true. Dude they just released the latest and Boise is 4. LMAO.
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I was under the impression the group of 5 winner took the 5th seed or the 12th seed. No way a mountain west winner should get a top 4 ranked 12th. All I have heard from Espn is the top 4 champs in the power 4 get the top 4 spots. I was thinking that Boise had moved into the big 12 for some reason. I guarantee you this type of format will not be used after 2026, lesser conferences should have to be ranked in the top 12 and should be seeded according to ranking. This should be about the best 12 getting in. Having said all that I am confident if we take care of business we will be in the playoffs. GBO
 
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