What is ultimately at stake tomorrow

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hog88 said:
We absolutely need to be colonizing Mars and spreading throughout the galaxy. That's the only way humanity will survive extinction.
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How long would it take to get somewhere habitable? The nearest solar system is 4 light years away.
 
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EasternVol said:
How long would it take to get somewhere habitable? The nearest solar system is 4 light years away.
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It all depends on how one wishes to define „habitable“. If you mean somewhere where you can walk around outside in your shirt sleeves; then a long time. If you mean somewhere where you can live under a dome and go outside with a thin pressure shell and an oxygen mask, Mars has you covered.
And Venus is quite habitable if you build giant airship cities. In the upper clouds, the temperature and air pressure are almost identical to earth. You would only need a tiny o2 line like in a hospital
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Or option 3, it is impossible for creatures living within time to comprehend the possibility of a being existing outside of time. We can only envision a „creator“ subject to the constraints of time. The very concept of „before“ presupposes „time“ and a creator that made time cannot be understood by a universe subject to time. It is similar tontje concepts discussed in Flatland which tries to describe how a two dimensional being would be totally incapable of comprehending a three dimensional object
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Your option 3 is rife with unsupported suppositions. "We do not understand how it could be - but we've been created, therefore there must be a god/designer."

You've simply dressed up a god-of-gaps fallacy to explain away our ignorance.

Nevertheless - either you're bogged down by an argument into infinite regress of an ultimate creator or you must admit that a creator isn't required. These are the only logical choices.
 
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DaddyChad said:
😂 the brain rot is strong. Go mainline some MSNBC.
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He is literally quoted as being for wrecking the economy to build it back up. Like in the last week. He wants full destabilization through gutting of the government.
 
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Septic said:
Your option 3 is rife with unsupported suppositions. "We do not understand how it could be - but we've been created, therefore there must be a god/designer."

You've simply dressed up a god-of-gaps fallacy to explain away our ignorance.

Nevertheless - either you're bogged down by an argument into infinite regress of an ultimate creator or you must admit that a creator isn't required. These are the only logical choices.
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Or you must admit the possibility that human logic and reason are incapable of understanding the mind and nature of a limitless being in the same way that the ant crawling across my floor is incapable of understanding quantum physics.
We really are arrogant little beings so much of the time.
There is no proof either for or against God. For whatever reason He had, God chose to ultimately ask for belief and trust.
 
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utvolpj said:
How is cutting wasteful spending is crashing the economy? Now I don't necessarily trust Musk in that role but the economically illiterate blog you link has no clue what's going on
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The truth is that government spending is what is keeping the economy going right now.
 
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hog88 said:
The truth is that government spending is what is keeping the economy going right now.
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True. But just think of the potential for economic growth if that money becomes available for the average consumer to spend on things that they actually want.
A parasite drains the energy from its host. Returning that blood or food to the host is always going to be healthy
 
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hog88 said:
The truth is that government spending is what is keeping the economy going right now.
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Has been for a while, even under Trump

I guess I should have asked how it would damage a strong economy. If it's so strong it wouldn't require massive govt intervention
 
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OrangeTsar said:
True. But just think of the potential for economic growth if that money becomes available for the average consumer to spend on things that they actually want.
A parasite drains the energy from its host. Returning that blood or food to the host is always going to be healthy
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Eventually yes, you are correct but in the short term massive cuts in government spending would lead to a recession and possible depression.

The band aid has to be ripped off at some point.
 
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The good thing regardless who wins is the corporate media losing their unearned legitimacy. There has been a huge spread in the viewers eyeballs/influence ratio that is correcting.
 
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