What Michigan Fans Think About Joe Milton Starting at UT

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Old Geezer said:
Hard to deny cause for concern. I would much rather have a smart, accurate QB who reads defenses and makes good decisions over a cannon arm or big run threat. If Milton becomes Guarantano at game time, I wanna see Bailey get developed.
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Based on what Heupel said yesterday... Milton is a smart, accurate QB who understands the system, reads D's, makes good decisions, and is a respected leader by the team.

Oh yeah... he still has a cannon arm.

This idea that only Bailey has those skills has played itself out and in the end... was apparently untrue. Heupel knows QB's and what's required from the mental and leadership angles. He chose Milton.
 
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People forget about the job Cutcliff did with Ainge when he came back.

People forget about the job Kiffin/Cheney did with Crompton when they came into town.

We have a QB (guru) as a coach so, maybe CJH can get this kid on track.

In the past, QB's who have transferred from here have gone on to have major success so, who knows until he gets into the meat of our schedule.
 
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Reading the defense in Heupel's spread offense is not as difficult as yall are making it out to be or as difficult as what Joe played in at Michigan. This offense is very qb friendly. All of our qbs are in a better position for success.
 
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sjt18 said:
Based on what Heupel said yesterday... Milton is a smart, accurate QB who understands the system, reads D's, makes good decisions, and is a respected leader by the team.

Oh yeah... he still has a cannon arm.

This idea that only Bailey has those skills has played itself out and in the end... was apparently untrue. Heupel knows QB's and what's required from the mental and leadership angles. He chose Milton.
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Austin Price said this morning that one of the reasons the staff favors Milton is because he has the tools to go out and win you a game, as opposed to possibly being more steady and "not losing" the game for you.

I can buy that argument. If the players are relatively close or even on their grasp of the offense, then you choose whether you want the game manager or the possible game breaker. Milton has a skillset that the other two do not. He has a bigger arm. He is a bigger body.

I've said too many times that we will just have to wait and see, and I'm glad that we will get to at least see something in two days.
 
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Why do many say CJH runs a QB friendly system? His QB has to be quicker to line up, read the defense, make the correct call, and then deliver the ball on target and time. It may be stat friendly, but requires great mental quickness.
I was pulling for Harrison since he was a known quantity, because he was recruited here, and lived in a neighboring state. However, if Milton, who was also highly recruited, can come in at a later date and learn the playbook and earn teammates respect, I am pulling for him to be great.
 
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ftsandersvol said:
It doesn't take Milton to make Harbaugh look stupid or incompetent. I'm surprised Michigan has held on to him for this long. If he doesn't beat OSU this year, he's gone.
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What do you think his winning% is at Michigan?
 
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a vol n tears said:
Why do many say CJH runs a QB friendly system? His QB has to be quicker to line up, read the defense, make the correct call, and then deliver the ball on target and time. It may be stat friendly, but requires great mental quickness.
I was pulling for Harrison since he was a known quantity, because he was recruited here, and lived in a neighboring state. However, if Milton, who was also highly recruited, can come in at a later date and learn the playbook and earn teammates respect, I am pulling for him to be great.
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I think that sentiment is predicated on the fact that many plays have predetermined targets for the ball. They get to the line fast, and the play is a wheel route to the slot with a hitch on the outside. They snap the ball, and it's an immediate throw to that slot guy deep, without looking at what the defense is doing.

I watched a very good breakdown of some of Heupel's UCF tape where this was pretty apparent. It seemed to me that the plays are being called by the staff based upon the alignment of the defense, so it frees up the QB from having to make as many reads. Now, I could be totally wrong, but that was my understanding.
 
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JRich said:
BG will be, err... should be a blow out, so I think everyone is going to look like a stud player against them. I am curious to see how he performs against Pitt, and if he doesn't perform well I am sure we will see Hooker or Bailey by Florida.

...or at least that is the expectation since this coach appears to be more competent than the last.
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Yes, we should try to get as many reps as possible for a backup but Nathan Peterman just called and said please do not throw an unprepared QB into the Florida game.
 
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Rooster1 said:
It was to his non throwing hand....
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It was to his throwing hand.

I've seen this a couple of times, but from what I've read below, it was on his throwing hand:

"It's A New Me": Joe Milton Is Healthy And Ready To Battle For QB1 At Tennessee | Rocky Top Insider
(This article says it explicitly)

‘It’s a new me’ — Joe Milton III joining Vols with renewed confidence
(This article discusses how he "resumed throwing" at a time following surgery, the implication being that the surgery prevented him from throwing for some time.)

Michigan QB Joe Milton sports cast in social media video
(This article demonstrates that his right hand - his throwing hand - was what was injured)

PressReader.com - Digital Newspaper & Magazine Subscriptions
(This article discusses his right hand being in a cast post surgery)

I believe the misconception comes from the fact that the Instagram video (and the screen shots from that) are mirrored in a way that makes it appear that his left hand is the one that is in the cast.
 
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All of the Michigan fans I know are at the point that they believe Harbaugh is the bigger issue.

They saw what Brady Hoke and Co. did to Devin Gardner. But they knew Gardner had the talent, so were excited when a comparable-Milton came along. This time, with a supposedly more competent coach. But he didn't pan out, like several other QBs before him. The one consistency the whole time has been Harbaugh.
 
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The Original Fade said:
I can’t think of a single player that got better under Harbaugh while at Michigan
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Yeah right. You must know what you are talking about, except Mich has had 42 players drafted to the NFL in the past 5 drafts. That's 8.4 per year if you are counting. But yeah, other than that, I'm sure you are right.
 
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Southern_Accent said:
Reading the defense in Heupel's spread offense is not as difficult as yall are making it out to be or as difficult as what Joe played in at Michigan. This offense is very qb friendly. All of our qbs are in a better position for success.
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I am hoping you are correct. Also, some QB's do better with less options and possibly on the run. Too much time can lead to indecision, hesitation and then ultimately timing issues.

It seems the CJH will put him a situation where decisions are simple, fast and he can play more on reaction/skill. Sometimes limiting the options/distractions helps QB's make less mistakes. I hope this leads Milton and the Vols to success.
 
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Otis1105 said:
I don’t know if a competent coach yanks a qb for a bad half or a bad game. You’ve seen him all fall had 2-3 scrimmages. You’ve got to trust your evaluation more. I’d say an incompetent coach pulls his newly named starter after a bad game. Unless the competition was just that close, but it hasn’t sounded that way, and sounds like Milton was pretty much the starter 2 weeks ago as camp was coming to an end.
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Sure, I can agree to that. My point was more directed at if Milton "practices better than he plays" which some Michigan fans eluded to. UT fans experienced some of that last season. Hopefully, CJH can identify that early on and make the necessary changes.
 
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KHVol said:
Good Youtube video of every one of Milton’s snaps vs Michigan State. First seen on SDS. Looks pretty good to me:
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Pretty good but nothing spectacular. He made 2 or 3 really great throws. 2 or 3 horrible throws. The throw around the 5:17 was especially horrendous, a pick-6 90% of the time.

It pretty much falls in line with what we've heard during camp. He needs to learn to take some off of it at times and his deep ball needs improvement. That being said his WRs were getting 0 separation on the deep routes. I do think his mobility will help us a lot.
 
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I was not impressed with Milton's brain at Mich. I don't think this works out too well up on Rocky Top. Hope I'm wrong
 
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Rooster1 said:
It was to his non throwing hand....
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Then why was he wearing the thumb brace on his throwing hand?

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Rooster1 said:
Yeah right. You must know what you are talking about, except Mich has had 42 players drafted to the NFL in the past 5 drafts. That's 8.4 per year if you are counting. But yeah, other than that, I'm sure you are right.
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Says the guy who didn't even know the injury was to his throwing hand.
 
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