What Michigan Fans Think About Joe Milton Starting at UT

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The Original Fade said:
So Kamara was drafted on his production at Tennessee?
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don’t confuse production with development. he wasn’t developed in the NFL. He was unleashed, not developed. Where that happened I don’t know. I also don’t know where you give coaches credit for development and when you give it to players. But it seems like if you’re having constant success in the draft, for a league that would rather cut you than pay you to sit the bench or run scout team, then something is happening at Michigan.
 
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Otis1105 said:
don’t confuse production with development. he wasn’t developed in the NFL. He was unleashed, not developed. Where that happened I don’t know. I also don’t know where you give coaches credit for development and when you give it to players. But it seems like if you’re having constant success in the draft, for a league that would rather cut you than pay you to sit the bench or run scout team, then something is happening at Michigan.
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I tend to think if you’re developing the talent you recruit, you win a lot more than you lose. That’s not happening for the most part with JH
 
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The Original Fade said:
I tend to think if you’re developing the talent you recruit, you win a lot more than you lose. That’s not happening for the most part with JH
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You specifically said you couldn’t name one. how closely do you follow Michigan? You real familiar with their roster, the star ratings of their starting 22 the last few years?
 
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The Original Fade said:
I tend to think if you’re developing the talent you recruit, you win a lot more than you lose. That’s not happening for the most part with JH
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Does three 10 win seasons, a 9 win season and an 8 win season count as winning more than you lose? This can be spun anyway you would like to get around your initial post that not a single player you are aware of has ever been developed under his staff, but any spin will end in futility because it was such an outlandish statement to make and you just cannot back it up.

P.S.: Saw where you started slipping in phrases like "for the most part" now. Coming down off that ledge a little is a smart move.
 
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He may have just need a change of scenery, and a different voice in his ear. Hopefully he's 100% recovered from is injury, and he's mentally and physically free to just grip it and rip it. I'm looking forward to seeing the young man on the field. GB🍊
 
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stevenrich2003 said:
They are WAY better than Ohio St. fans.
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At least OSU has a reason to be elitist assholes. They get results. Perennial championship contenders. Absolutely zero lapse between Urban Meyer and Ryan Day.

Michigan fans are still riding the Bo Schembechler wave (no national championships, below .500 in bowls).

If you ever question this, they pull out the "better academics" and "winningest program" even though one of those wins was against a high school team in 1891.

Michigan fans are WAY worse.
 
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Let's hope Tre Milton can rise above our meager expectations and score one more point than BG. Undefeated sounds nice.
 
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The Original Fade said:
Sure, just make sure you give butch Jones credit for Alvin Kamara as well
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Just can’t stand to believe that he has some coaching ability? He does, but so far not enough to make them a real power. Let’s hope it continues. Still the point is they do have talent get better and it isn’t based just on potential.

Go Vols!!
 
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Daniel_Lincolns_Foot said:
At least OSU has a reason to be elitist assholes. They get results. Perennial championship contenders. Absolutely zero lapse between Urban Meyer and Ryan Day.

Michigan fans are still riding the Bo Schembechler wave (no national championships, below .500 in bowls).

If you ever question this, they pull out the "better academics" and "winningest program" even though one of those wins was against a high school team in 1891.

Michigan fans are WAY worse.
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Not a fan of either fan base, but Loyd Carr won a natty at Michigan in 1997.
 
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Devo182 said:
Mediocre?? Outside of the wonky covid year, they've won 10 games 3 out of 5 seasons under Harbaugh and the other 2 were 9 wins and 8 wins lol. I'd take that in a heartbeat.
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Yeah - mediocre. Under Harbaugh, they have only finished above 3rd place in East division of the Big10 one time; they have only finished the season ranked in the top 10 nationally one time. I would call that pretty mediocre, LOL.

The fact that their record is better than UT's record over the past decade doesn't make them good. Would you really be happy to finish 3rd in your division (behind UGA and FL) year after year?
 
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Fans will always hate a guy when he leaves their beloved program. Remember how people here blasted Jalen Hurd and treated him like a class tier-1 terrorist.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
The Joe Milton thread on one of the Michigan forums is pretty interesting. 117 comments. Not sure if I'm allowed to link, but mods can delete if not:
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Overall, Michigan fans seem pretty divided on whether Milton's failure there was the fault of Harbaugh or Milton.

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Lots of opinions from Michigan fans. The debates over there remind me of VN.

I'm still skeptical that Milton is going to dramatically improve this year, and yet weirdly optimistic. I doubt he'll have any issues vs BG (and I'm hoping we win big and Hooker / Bailey get some playing time), so the real tests are Pitt and Florida. Regardless, this is the best part of the season: we're undefeated! :D

GBO!
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I always love these “what other fans are saying” threads. I always read them and picture in my mind which of you on this site would say these things. It cracks me up because really, we’re all the same.😁
GBO!!
 
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Daniel_Lincolns_Foot said:
At least OSU has a reason to be elitist assholes. They get results. Perennial championship contenders. Absolutely zero lapse between Urban Meyer and Ryan Day.

Michigan fans are still riding the Bo Schembechler wave (no national championships, below .500 in bowls).

If you ever question this, they pull out the "better academics" and "winningest program" even though one of those wins was against a high school team in 1891.

Michigan fans are WAY worse.
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God...we’re just like Michigan fans!🤦‍♂️
GBO!!
 
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Rooster1 said:
Does three 10 win seasons, a 9 win season and an 8 win season count as winning more than you lose? This can be spun anyway you would like to get around your initial post that not a single player you are aware of has ever been developed under his staff, but any spin will end in futility because it was such an outlandish statement to make and you just cannot back it up.

P.S.: Saw where you started slipping in phrases like "for the most part" now. Coming down off that ledge a little is a smart move.
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Oh so you think I’m backpedaling? No, I stand by my post which is that I can’t think of a single player that got a lot better under Harbaugh. I’m sure a few did at positions that don’t jump out, I just can’t think of any like Mullen develops players and QBs
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
The Joe Milton thread on one of the Michigan forums is pretty interesting. 117 comments. Not sure if I'm allowed to link, but mods can delete if not:
link

Overall, Michigan fans seem pretty divided on whether Milton's failure there was the fault of Harbaugh or Milton.

Some comments:





















Lots of opinions from Michigan fans. The debates over there remind me of VN.

I'm still skeptical that Milton is going to dramatically improve this year, and yet weirdly optimistic. I doubt he'll have any issues vs BG (and I'm hoping we win big and Hooker / Bailey get some playing time), so the real tests are Pitt and Florida. Regardless, this is the best part of the season: we're undefeated! :D

GBO!
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The last time that I gave 1/32 of a flying f*** about anything from someone affiliated with UM was on the 5th of never. Thanks for the info though!
 
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