What other message boards are saying (Post Kentucky Edition)

[stolitonic]

Stoops and the Kentucky program are fool’s gold. He has padded his record with a weak non-conf schedule year after year and has only beaten two teams with winning records in the SEC in his ten years there. The only power 5 non-SEC team they’ve played in those ten years has been Louisville, and that series is part of a long-term contract Kentucky has hinted at not renewing, but continues to extend due to political pressure. The formula has worked in that they go 3-1 or 4-0 in non-SEC games every year, so all they have to do is win 2-3 conference games to secure a bowl bid and Stoops gets another raise. It really is a doozy of an arrangement he has going in Lexington.

I mean-as much as I hate to say it, is that not pretty much what we did between like 2009 and 2020? Throw in a few home and homes with Okie and Oregon and it's basically a mirror of what we did for well over a decade.

Problem being that we continued to hire HCs who couldn't even get the 2-3 conference games part of the equation.

Gonna be really interesting to see how things play out starting next year. Seems to me you're gonna have maybe 2-3 really good SEC teams each year and then a dozen who are clustered between 5-7 and 7-5. Candy bringing up the rear as always.

 

[VolCalls]

I think the issue is the roller coaster ride. They think they are one of the best in the country then the bottom falls out.

You’re right - every year they start 3-0 by beating up on an FCS program and a couple of MAC schools, then they go 1-1 or 2-0 against Vandy and another middling team like SC, MSU, or UF, and their fans think they’re going to the CFP. Then they play legitimate programs and are quickly put back in their rightful place. Their arrogance always comes back to bite them.

 

[njvols]

As much as I love this, I gotta say the 4-36 line hit too close to home. Since I’ve been old enough to truly watch and appreciate TN football, I’ve seen us beat Bama twice and Florida maybe 5 times.

My Fav...
Tennessee is like the high school bully who just dominates you even after high school is long over

 

[njvols]

I mean-as much as I hate to say it, is that not pretty much what we did between like 2009 and 2020? Throw in a few home and homes with Okie and Oregon and it's basically a mirror of what we did for well over a decade.

Problem being that we continued to hire HCs who couldn't even get the 2-3 conference games part of the equation.

Gonna be really interesting to see how things play out starting next year. Seems to me you're gonna have maybe 2-3 really good SEC teams each year and then a dozen who are clustered between 5-7 and 7-5. Candy bringing up the rear as always.

one analyst said yesterday that SEC teams are going to have to get used to more losses. I think he's correct. Good teams could easily have 4 losses. Maybe that's a good thing...as long as we're in the upper tier.

 

[CNCVol88]

If you were paying attention you would see we have abandoned 90% of our passing game and the play calls tell you why. CJH didn’t suddenly decide he doesn’t like downfield passing anymore.

Correct. Our greatest strength is in the backfield now in the firm of a 3 headed monster. Huepel understands where his strength is and exploits it.

 

[VolCalls]

I mean-as much as I hate to say it, is that not pretty much what we did between like 2009 and 2020? Throw in a few home and homes with Okie and Oregon and it's basically a mirror of what we did for well over a decade.

Problem being that we continued to hire HCs who couldn't even get the 2-3 conference games part of the equation.

Gonna be really interesting to see how things play out starting next year. Seems to me you're gonna have maybe 2-3 really good SEC teams each year and then a dozen who are clustered between 5-7 and 7-5. Candy bringing up the rear as always.

When you say “we” are you talking about the arrogance of the general fan base or the dumbed-down schedule? From 2009-2020 we only started 3-0 one time (2016). I can’t speak for the consensus, but never during that time did I ever think we were “back” as a program. We hired four coaches who were more impressed with themselves than they were the tradition-rich program they were given the keys to. As a result, I became apathetic about UT football for a good 12-13 years. Then Danny White & Josh Heupel came along and things changed.

 

[NetworkVol]

When you say “we” are you talking about the arrogance of the general fan base or the dumbed-down schedule? From 2009-2020 we only started 3-0 one time (2016). I can’t speak for the consensus, but never during that time did I ever think we were “back” as a program. We hired four coaches who were more impressed with themselves than they were the tradition-rich program they were given the keys to. As a result, I became apathetic about UT football for a good 12-13 years. Then Danny White & Josh Heupel came along and things changed.

Apathetic not allowed. The options are nauseatingly frustrated or blindly elated.

 

[TheVolsFrog]

Most are already over it now and praising Levis for his performance today with the Titans. As a Titans fan, I’m great with it as well.

I stated I thought the Titans should've passed on Levis and got Hyatt and then got a QB in 24 but Levis played very good today.
Titans should roll with him the rest of the year. Tannehill is done along with Malik. I still thought what Vrabel did with that QB swap was one of the dumbest calls I've seen

 

[stolitonic]

When you say “we” are you talking about the arrogance of the general fan base or the dumbed-down schedule? From 2009-2020 we only started 3-0 one time (2016). I can’t speak for the consensus, but never during that time did I ever think we were “back” as a program. We hired four coaches who were more impressed with themselves than they were the tradition-rich program they were given the keys to. As a result, I became apathetic about UT football for a good 12-13 years. Then Danny White & Josh Heupel came along and things changed.

I was referring more to the OOC schedule giving is a 4-0 "cushion" and not a 3-0 or 4-0 start

My point was that for over a decade there we-as in UT football-followed the model the OP stated that Kentucky was using. Running up a 4-0 record vs cupcakes and then pray to win two conference games to get to a bowl.

Of course there were situations along the line like 2019 when we screwed up vs GaSt and BYu.

 

[Bloodrunsorange27]

He is a good QB. Is he a great ? No, not in my opinion. However he is here and what we have. He is getting better and they are calling plays finally to fit our offensive talent as a whole. Tell me this, which wr without Bru is the go to ? Which guy are you betting on to get open and be dependable catching the ball ? This season has been a blender of mistakes, some on the QB, some on the OL, some of it is play calling. We do not have the WR unit we had. Yeah I expected them to be better. A good QB wins more than he loses. One thing I do not understand is we all see the OL can't protect long. Why are we not using Sampson, Wright and Small out of the back field ? If the TE's have to help the OL we could use that.

I’ve heard many great coaches say the most important ability for a QB to be successful is the ability to quickly process what they are seeing and make quick decisions. That to me is an area Joe struggles in more than anything else. He doesn’t have it mentally. You can then add on the concerns with accuracy and low football IQ. I don’t think the coaches trust him to throw over the middle of the field for those reasons and we’ve seen him throw into coverage and throw picks on the few occasions they’ve tried to do it.
With those issues, can’t really make a case that he is a good qb.

As far as passing options, I’m surprised we haven’t tried to get the TEs more involved with some easy drag routes, rollouts, etc. if we had a solid QB, I don’t think we would see the play calling as limited as it currently is and these other guys would develop

 

[volfeeva]

Every analyst on Sportscenter Game DAY picked the Vols except Kirk Herbstreet. What did he know ?

 

[mackievol]

Most are already over it now and praising Levis for his performance today with the Titans. As a Titans fan, I’m great with it as well.

Glad the Houston Oilers won today.

 

[Arrested Devolopment]

Here we see the Kentucky Surrender Cobra showing up early in the first quarter. The juvenile male's blue plumage shows traces of white under the arms. In mature males we typically see dark secretions in the same region with food remnants on the front.

 

[Vol737]

Here we see the Kentucky Surrender Cobra showing up early in the first quarter. The juvenile male's blue plumage shows traces of white under the arms. In mature males we typically see dark secretions in the same region with food remnants on the front. View attachment 591518

That is hilarious!!!

 

[Orange931]

Glad the Houston Oilers won today.

I love those throwbacks. We should use the color scheme with the comet on those.

 

[MemphisVol77]

I've never been too big a fan of the wooo.

Moments like these help me appreciate it though.

 

[CR-vol]

The good ol woo. Until now I just though it was hated by friends in orange. It's even more amusing now that I know it also bothers Kentucky fans.

 

[Remy]

As much as I love this, I gotta say the 4-36 line hit too close to home. Since I’ve been old enough to truly watch and appreciate TN football, I’ve seen us beat Bama twice and Florida maybe 5 times.

Lots of people want to overlook losing to Bama, UF, and UGA. I do not. My opinion is if a HC at UT can't find a way to consistently beat one of our big 3 season in and season out they have no business running the program. Heupel beat Bama and UF both last year. UGA is not settled yet, my fingers are crossed. The way it is and Finebaum is correct about this, the UT Bama game is much more important to UT than it is to Bama. UK in football is to UT as UT in football is to Bama. It's sad but true.

 

[Sea Ray]

No shame in not beating a Nick Saban led Bama. No team gets more than a win every now and then against them. With all our program has gone through the last twenty years or so, it’s nuts that Kentucky couldn’t have beaten us more

 

[TheFlash1971]

As much as I love this, I gotta say the 4-36 line hit too close to home. Since I’ve been old enough to truly watch and appreciate TN football, I’ve seen us beat Bama twice and Florida maybe 5 times.

The comment about us being not that good and still losing to us is the same way we felt when we lost to a Graham Mertz lead crappy Gator team.

 

[youcancallmeAl]

Lots of people want to overlook losing to Bama, UF, and UGA. I do not. My opinion is if a HC at UT can't find a way to consistently beat one of our big 3 season in and season out they have no business running the program. Heupel beat Bama and UF both last year. UGA is not settled yet, my fingers are crossed. The way it is and Finebaum is correct about this, the UT Bama game is much more important to UT than it is to Bama. UK in football is to UT as UT in football is to Bama. It's sad but true.

Bammers don't light up big cigars when they beat Kentucky. And neither do we.

 

[Mccage]

I’ve heard many great coaches say the most important ability for a QB to be successful is the ability to quickly process what they are seeing and make quick decisions. That to me is an area Joe struggles in more than anything else. He doesn’t have it mentally. You can then add on the concerns with accuracy and low football IQ. I don’t think the coaches trust him to throw over the middle of the field for those reasons and we’ve seen him throw into coverage and throw picks on the few occasions they’ve tried to do it.
With those issues, can’t really make a case that he is a good qb.

As far as passing options, I’m surprised we haven’t tried to get the TEs more involved with some easy drag routes, rollouts, etc. if we had a solid QB, I don’t think we would see the play calling as limited as it currently is and these other guys would develop

And If your receivers are not where they’re supposed to be?

 

[dobre_shunka]

the UT Bama game is much more important to UT than it is to Bama. UK in football is to UT as UT in football is to Bama. It's sad but true.

That's not a great revelation with Bama having an instate rival Auburn they play every year as the final game of the regular season.

 

[feathersax]

I think the issue is the roller coaster ride. They think they are one of the best in the country then the bottom falls out.

Tennessee-Kentucky Vols lead the series 84-26 with 9 ties. That says it all.

 

[VOLnMiami]

36-4 answer! I’ll pay a little extra for the Publix experience myself.

I work for Publix sir and Thank you!