What was actually going on with our AD?

[ShelbourneVol]

I’m not suggesting he’s going to turn UNC into the next Alabama, but with this new playoff, you essentially just have to be better than Clemson and Miami to make the ACC champ game. That doesn’t seem too difficult. Just interesting how poorly we were ran up until Danny White showed up in Knoxville.

I think it comes down to UT’s head college administrators commitment to the sports programs and football specifically. Some don’t want to spend much time and money on sports. Some want to emphasize academics over sports. Some decades are better than others. We tend to be better when the, “football is the front porch of the University of Tennessee”, philosophy is practiced.

 

[cardvolfan]

No one can even begin to know how this hire will turn out. Many think they know, but they don’t. I think it might possibly work for UNC, but who knows. Making out-of-the-box hires usually go one way or the other.

 

[fossilfiction]

The only time we have gone the “washed up coach” route has been when we hired a basketball coach Texas had just fired who many Vols fans dubbed “Retirement Rick.”

That washed up coach is now coaching an undefeated number 1 team in his 10th year at Tennessee.

You’re absolutely right—Rick Barnes was labeled as "washed up" by many when Tennessee hired him, and he’s proven those critics wrong with incredible success. However, comparing Rick Barnes to Bill Belichick at this stage of their careers is apples to oranges. Barnes was still actively and successfully coaching college basketball when Tennessee hired him, even after his stint at Texas ended.

Belichick, on the other hand, has spent decades in the NFL and has no experience in college football. The NFL and college football are two vastly different worlds, and success in one doesn’t guarantee success in the other. UNC is betting on name recognition and pedigree, but history has shown that high-profile hires without the right fit often fail, especially when jumping between these two levels.

Let’s not forget—hiring a "big name" doesn’t always translate to championships or sustained success. Just ask fans of other programs that have tried and failed with splashy hires. Time will tell, but I stand by my point that this hire is more about headlines than the likelihood of long-term success.

But it's moot. The topic is not on the current administration. Context matters.

 

[Halph66]

Belichick views the North Carolina job as a short term gig as evidenced by the 3 year $30 million dollar contract that he signed.

And the guarantee that his son is the successor.

 

[njvols]

Belichick isn’t a good hire.

Way past his prime and has a personality of a rock.

Disagree entirely. If a kid is on the fence in NC b/t Vols and UNC, especially a defensive player, UNC just became entirely more legit of a threat to keep recruits in home state. He's a bridge hire...create momentum for the next guy to see UNC is committed to football.

 

[Volfan76]

So, how in the world does the UNC athletics director go out and hire Bill Belichick in a week?

What exactly were we doing when we hired Dooley…….Jones……Schianoooope……Pruitt? Hell, at one point I was even thinking ol Phil was about to get his job back.

For the record, I’m perfectly happy and content with what Coach Josh has done for the Vols. Just blown away that they were able to pull that off at UNC. Do we have an official list of coaches we interviewed since 2008? Surely none of them were anywhere close to as high profile as Belichick….

I don't see a washed up BB doing well at all with a bunch of entitled teenagers. That being said, our AD and general admin has been an absolute dumpster fire prior to DP.

 

[njvols]

You’re absolutely right—Rick Barnes was labeled as "washed up" by many when Tennessee hired him, and he’s proven those critics wrong with incredible success. However, comparing Rick Barnes to Bill Belichick at this stage of their careers is apples to oranges. Barnes was still actively and successfully coaching college basketball when Tennessee hired him, even after his stint at Texas ended.

Belichick, on the other hand, has spent decades in the NFL and has no experience in college football. The NFL and college football are two vastly different worlds, and success in one doesn’t guarantee success in the other. UNC is betting on name recognition and pedigree, but history has shown that high-profile hires without the right fit often fail, especially when jumping between these two levels.

Let’s not forget—hiring a "big name" doesn’t always translate to championships or sustained success. Just ask fans of other programs that have tried and failed with splashy hires. Time will tell, but I stand by my point that this hire is more about headlines than the likelihood of long-term success.

But it's moot. The topic is not on the current administration. Context matters.

All Belichick needs to do is be CEO and set the culture and will certainly have his fingers on the Defense. He can hire guys to recruit and run the offense. As we've seen from Danny White, if you get the culture right, the rest seems to fall in place. You can tell when he's on Peyton/Eli Monday night football, his knowledge is second to none, and was itching to get back into coaching. He has a legendary and massive attention to small details. When getting programs back on track, it's imperative to set the foundation of expectations...and don't think he's lacking there, whether it's NFL or UNC.

 

[whobethis16]

Does that really make sense to you?

Reid never won anything for over a decade but he kept getting chances. Tomlin hasn’t won for a decade and still keeps coaching. Harbaugh hasn’t won since Ray Lewis retired, but he keeps coaching. Fisher never won anything, but he coached for 2 decades.

Reid has 3 losing seasons in his whole career, Belichick has 8 (3 of which were in the last 4 years of his time). Reid has missed the playoffs 6 times in his career, Belichick 10 (3 in the last 4 of his time).

 

[njvols]

Belichick may be an ass, but imo he won’t have any trouble finding bright coordinators/staff members who can do the recruiting for him. His name will recruit by itself. I’m not sold this will be a disaster.

Agree 100%. Won't be a disaster, and this doesn't have to be an overwhelming success...it's the ACC, so the bar is low. He just needs to set the culture/foundation for the next guy, where UNC looking to show they are committed to football. To your point, he will bring in assistants who want to soak up his knowledge and do heavy lifting in recruiting, and you know Brady will be on speed dial w/ recruits.

Imagine we're still coming off of Dooley, Jones, Pruitt and we pull in the GOAT, I think we'd be thinking we're in a good spot.

 

[ptgrbn]

So, how in the world does the UNC athletics director go out and hire Bill Belichick in a week?

What exactly were we doing when we hired Dooley…….Jones……Schianoooope……Pruitt? Hell, at one point I was even thinking ol Phil was about to get his job back.

For the record, I’m perfectly happy and content with what Coach Josh has done for the Vols. Just blown away that they were able to pull that off at UNC. Do we have an official list of coaches we interviewed since 2008? Surely none of them were anywhere close to as high profile as Belichick….

UNC is using the Colorado model thinking NFL royalty equals instant success. Plus 10 mil a year to start sounds like a bush league negotiation by their AD. This won’t end well for them especially since Bill can’t win at anything without a Tom Brady

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I believe she is 24 and she will fit in fine at the Bars on Franklin Street in Chapel Hill.

Also, the story I read is she picked him up on a plane and she is not her first Sugar Daddy at her tender age…..

So, for all of those criticizing Bill, I’m sure it take$ a lot of money to keep her up.

To be fair, it probably takes quite a bit of money to keep him up too.

 

[overseasorange2]

She might be too old.

24?????

 

[ArmchairQB]

It’s too bad some of the stuff that would be the most hilariously bad about this won’t ever happen.

Typical Belichick recruiting visit…

Recruit on couch: [silence]
Belichick sitting opposite: [glowering silence]
…
[more silence]

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Reports are Belichick reached out to UNC and the UNC athletic director was not on board with it. The chancellor and members of the board pushed it through

Yeah, he wanted to coach at UNC because his dad had ties there and coached there.

 

[LargeOrange1]

Bill Belichick Agrees To UNC Job On Condition He Can Live In Girlfriend’s Dorm

CHAPEL HILL, NC — The Tar Heels athletic department was on the brink of pulling off a huge coup this week, as legendary NFL coach Bill Belichick reportedly agreed to take the University of North Carolina head coaching position on the condition that he can live in his girlfriend's dorm.

babylonbee.com

 

[Nico ee-ah-MAH-LAY-ah-va]

Times have changed a lot even since Pruitt was hired. Not just for us, but for CFP at large.

The money being thrown around this sport is insane now. In 2020, Pruitt snuck a few hundred dollars to a recruit's mother in a Chick Fil A bag. In 2022, Nico was flown in a private jet from California to Tennessee to sign a deal worth millions.

Players were always getting money, but now that it is above the table instead of below and NIL is commonplace, the sky is the limit for how much people are getting paid, including coaches.

 

[VolJarhead]

This was a ticket sale hire. I might eat crow, but I think he fails miserably.

 

[GVF]

This is like when any HOF player should have retired but gets a 1 year contract based on name and he sucks…. This is that.

The Aaron Rogers experience currently on tap in NY.

 

[njvols]

UNC is using the Colorado model thinking NFL royalty equals instant success. Plus 10 mil a year to start sounds like a bush league negotiation by their AD. This won’t end well for them especially since Bill can’t win at anything without a Tom Brady

I more look at these hires as the long game impact. No one ever talked about Colorado or UNC in football, and now they are. As a side note, anyone think that Bill can't sleep in a couple days a week and still coach circles around his ACC competition? It's not like he's going to SEC. ACC is cakewalk.

He's alot like Saban, and if he gets a legit offensive mind at OC, where he turns the reins over, like Saban did for Kiffin, then w/ it could work. Tough sell though for longevity. Can't imagine he's there more than 3-4 years, which is probably the biggest "sell-in" headwind.

 

[ptgrbn]

I more look at these hires as the long game impact. No one ever talked about Colorado or UNC in football, and now they are. As a side note, anyone think that Bill can't sleep in a couple days a week and still coach circles around his ACC competition? It's not like he's going to SEC. ACC is cakewalk.

He's alot like Saban, and if he gets a legit offensive mind at OC, where he turns the reins over, like Saban did for Kiffin, then w/ it could work. Tough sell though for longevity. Can't imagine he's there more than 3-4 years, which is probably the biggest "sell-in" headwind.

He will definitely have to work on his living room speech to recruits. Pretty dry guy for the college game.

I know that UNCs recruiting base is different from Nebraskas but remember it did not work out to well for Bill Callahan after he switched to college. He won a Super Bowl too

 

[volbound1700]

You’re absolutely right—Rick Barnes was labeled as "washed up" by many when Tennessee hired him, and he’s proven those critics wrong with incredible success. However, comparing Rick Barnes to Bill Belichick at this stage of their careers is apples to oranges. Barnes was still actively and successfully coaching college basketball when Tennessee hired him, even after his stint at Texas ended.

Belichick, on the other hand, has spent decades in the NFL and has no experience in college football. The NFL and college football are two vastly different worlds, and success in one doesn’t guarantee success in the other. UNC is betting on name recognition and pedigree, but history has shown that high-profile hires without the right fit often fail, especially when jumping between these two levels.

Let’s not forget—hiring a "big name" doesn’t always translate to championships or sustained success. Just ask fans of other programs that have tried and failed with splashy hires. Time will tell, but I stand by my point that this hire is more about headlines than the likelihood of long-term success.

But it's moot. The topic is not on the current administration. Context matters.

I don't remember that but I don't think I was posting on here at that time. I remember celebrating it as one of the best hires Tennessee ever made (keep in mind we typically hired no name losers back then).

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Mike Hamilton was dumber than a box of hammers. Think about it. He had a guy who wanted the job and was a prove winner, Gary Patterson. But no what did he do? He hired a guy who had zero experience.

Essentially we have had functioning idiots as ADs before Danny White came along.

 

[EZE]

Oh, but he’s no Dooley, Jones, or Pruitt lmao. Those clowns are middle school coaches compared to Belichick….

Time will tell. NFL and college are completely different animals. I want to see if he can recruit.

 

[901 Orange]

Belichick isn’t a good hire.

Way past his prime and has a personality of a rock.

I think that personality is just towards the media. Too many of his players have said he has a personality behind closed doors. I can't say he is past his prime because his defense (his specialty) was still good after Brady. That man has forgotten more football than most of us will ever learn.

 

[TennesseeTarheel]

24?????

For his son.