Where do you stand on Healthcare?

How do you feel about the healthcare currently provided in the US?

  • It’s perfect the way it is. No changes necessary.

  • I like our system but it needs some tweaking.

  • I like the idea of our system but it has gotten much too expensive and needs major reform.

  • I think the format for providing healthcare is flawed and it needs rebuilt from the ground up.

  • Other

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#326
#326
USMC-TNVOL said:
$3.6 trillion + is our current costs through everyone. You’re ignoring that.

Of course it will never pass if the legislators in power are bought off by the corporations it will hurt.
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We will not double our current level of taxation which is what it will take you’re full of 💩
 
#327
#327
VolStrom said:
The government used to take care of homeless people by the way of mental health institutions. I remember a huge institution in Knoxville called East Tennessee State. At some point in time we deemed places like this unnecessary and closed them only to release the people that were inside to a world they weren't prepared for.
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Wasn't it Eastern State? I remember it too... from the outside.
 
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#328
#328
USMC-TNVOL said:
$3.6 trillion + is our current costs through everyone. You’re ignoring that.

Of course it will never pass if the legislators in power are bought off by the corporations it will hurt.
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I am sorry adding 11k to my tax return isnt lowering my medical costs. Or a lot of peoples.
 
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#332
#332
USMC-TNVOL said:
Adding $11k to your tax return? What?
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HE SAID IT WOULD ADD MORE THAN $11K TO HIS TAXES!

And it would add even more than than to ours. Much more than our current healthcare benefits cost. And it will do the same for anybody currently with a tax liability.

It’s DOA
 
#333
#333
NorthDallas40 said:
HE SAID IT WOULD ADD MORE THAN $11K TO HIS TAXES!

And it would add even more than than to ours. Much more than our current healthcare benefits cost. And it will do the same for anybody currently with a tax liability.

It’s DOA
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OH REALLY? You have actual numbers from a reputable source or just made up bs?
 
#334
#334
LouderVol said:
3.3 trillion divided by 300million. That's the per person cost of your plan.

My insurance is just over 5k a year.
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Got bad news for ya Louder. A big chunk on the lower end won’t be paying a cent and you’ll get to handle that burden for them.

But now that you’ve showed up look over the last couple of pages and let me know what you think. It’s pretty clear that we would need to nearly double current tax receipts to fund this.
 
#335
#335
USMC-TNVOL said:
OH REALLY? You have actual numbers from a reputable source or just made up bs?
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You’ve ignored every number this far based on last years actuals so why should I waste the time. I know what my current tax liability is. And I know what my healthcare benefits cost. I’ll stand pat.
 
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#336
#336
NorthDallas40 said:
Got bad news for ya Louder. A big chunk on the lower end won’t be paying a cent abd you’ll get to handle that burden for them.

But now that you’ve showed up look over the last couple of pages and let me know what you think. It’s pretty clear that we would need to nearly double current tax receipts to fund this.
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Oh easily.

So you take the 300 million take off the bottom 44% that dont pay income tax that leaves 168 million to pay 3.3 trillion. That's almost 20k a person. Consider a good chunk of that 168 million are included in a household and the bread winners are paying far more.

I am so glad @USMC-TNVOL has quadrupled my insurance payments. #savings
 
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#337
#337
LouderVol said:
Oh easily.

So you take the 300 million take off the bottom 44% that dont pay income tax that leaves 168 million to pay 3.3 trillion. That's almost 20k a person. Consider a good chunk of that 168 million are included in a household and the bread winners are paying far more.

I am so glad @USMC-TNVOL has quadrupled my insurance payments. #savings
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Yep. And you’re single. I get to be even more generous. But he’ll remind us how much we’re saving on the back end provide costs! 😂
 
#338
#338
LouderVol said:
Oh easily.

So you take the 300 million take off the bottom 44% that dont pay income tax that leaves 168 million to pay 3.3 trillion. That's almost 20k a person. Consider a good chunk of that 168 million are included in a household and the bread winners are paying far more.

I am so glad @USMC-TNVOL has quadrupled my insurance payments. #savings
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Brilliant. You lumped 168 million as paying the same amount when that’s not how taxes work.
 
#340
#340
USMC-TNVOL said:
Brilliant. You lumped 168 million as paying the same amount when that’s not how taxes work.
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You’re not helping your case. His simple example shows just how jacked this idea is. Just like every other simple example you’ve been provided. But you don’t appear to be intelligent enough to absorb the information
 
#341
#341
USMC-TNVOL said:
No deductibles or copays throughout the year but somehow it’s all on the back end.
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How sick do you get? My maximum out of pocket is $3k. I pay around $3k a year for my plan including vision and dental. And I get company matched tax advantages HSA deposits. Your idea blows and is ridiculous on cost.
 
#346
#346
Insurance is a corrupt system and should be removed from healthcare. If you can’t pay you die.
 
#347
#347
NorthDallas40 said:
How sick do you get? My maximum out of pocket is $3k. I pay around $3k a year for my plan including vision and dental. Your idea blows and is ridiculous on cost.
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Most people spend between 10% and 20% of their income on healthcare related costs currently.
 
#348
#348
hog88 said:
Explain to me how any of the three links compares quality of care between us and other countries. Every one of your links goes to personal life choices and NOT to the results of treatments.
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I don't think you actually read those articles.
 
#350
#350
USMC-TNVOL said:
Except it’s not even as stated in your own posts.
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Yep. It is. I know exactly what my healthcare costs are.

look nobody is buying your 💩 you completely ignore the up front program costs which are going to be astronomical and just keep chest pounding how much you’re gonna skim provider profits. That’s your whole sell. Don’t look at what it will cost you, look how much it lowers provider payments. Its disingenuous at best but more basically just stupid.
 
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