Which SEC QB's would you rather have over Worley?

[TVOL71]

Justin Worley was 19/34 for 179 yds 1 TD 0 INT that game.

Of the 179 yds, 87 yds came from miraculous catches by Marquez North (1 for 48yds to the 16yd line, 1 for 39yds to the 26yd line). Both of these catches set up FG's which ultimately won the game.

Without those miraculous catches he is 17/32 for 92yds 1 TD 0 INT. That is not good...

Thinking back on that game, I only remember one of those catches. The one I remember, North made a great catch not because the ball was poorly thrown, as Worley had it right on the money, but because North had a DB hanging on him and took the ball away from him, as you would expect of a very good WR. In this case both the QB and WR made a good play. Can't seem to remember exactly what happened on the other one, so I can't comment on that one.

 

[TVOL71]

The difference being, that was Worley at his best and them at their worst. If you want a QB who, at his best, plays like a good SEC starter does at his worst, then Worley is your guy.

Never said Worley was great, but playing against tough SEC defenses, he had improved to the point of being respectable before his injury against Bama. I don't think he would have made a difference against Bama, Mizzou or Aubarn, they just had too much overall talent, speed and depth against us, but I think we would have won against Vandy if he had been there and played like he did against Ga and SC. Also we would have had a good shot against Florida if he had played all game, instead of starting Peterman.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

The only one of those guys I wouldn't take over Worley is Smith. Driskell might actually fit our offense well with his running ability even though he isn't the best passer.

 

[VolFan4Life87]

Thinking back on that game, I only remember one of those catches. The one I remember, North made a great catch not because the ball was poorly thrown, as Worley had it right on the money, but because North had a DB hanging on him and took the ball away from him, as you would expect of a very good WR. In this case both the QB and WR made a good play. Can't seem to remember exactly what happened on the other one, so I can't comment on that one.

IIRC it was thrown slightly behind him as that's why North had to wrestle it away.

On the long bomb that set up our final FG to win it was thrown short and north had to catch it one handed.

In any case I hope they study hard and practice harder this off season. I want them all to be successful; it's just hard to believe certain players can get 'up to snuff' in one offseason given last year's performances.

GBO & Happy New Years!

 

[UTProf]

I like how when WRs drop balls and can't run routes, Worley gets the blame. Yet heaven forbid we give him any credit when WRs make them.

I think, to those confused by his "making strides" comments, we are comparing his SCjr game to his garbage play at the beginning of the year. He still wasn't anything spectacular but did play a crap load better. Something Dobbs never did.

You didn't watch the UK game if you believe that.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Obviously the SEC has some great QB's, and I think a lot of UT fans feel Worley is not very good. Personally I am not among them, I think Worley hit his stride and became a pretty legit QB, but just for perspective, which SEC QB's that will be playing next year (that's actually gotten significant playing time) would you rather have?

A. Jeff Driskell - FLA
B. Max Smith - KY
C. Matt Mauk - Mizz
D. Dylan Thompson - SC
E. Dak Prescott - MS State
F. Patton Robinette- Vandy
G. All of the above
H. None of the above

I'm sure there's more but that's all I can think of at the time that will for sure be back next year.

None of them. Our team is our team. Our players are our players. You're either a fan of your team or not. You back your players or not. Not doing is a put down of your team and it's members. Only if a player is a genuine triple A jerk and several things worse, best not posted here, should they be unworthy of your support.

If a Worley led Vols team goes up against any of the above QBs team, I hope he demonstrates being coached up by our coaches and have a take no prisoners victory over those teams. Vols forever!!!!!!!!

 

[KBVol]

1. Riley Ferguson
2. Josh Dobbs
3. Peterman by a coin flip

Peterman by a coin flip? Did you see the difference between Worley and Peterman in the Florida game alone?

 

[KBVol]

Justin Worley was 19/34 for 179 yds 1 TD 0 INT that game.

Of the 179 yds, 87 yds came from miraculous catches by Marquez North (1 for 48yds to the 16yd line, 1 for 39yds to the 26yd line). Both of these catches set up FG's which ultimately won the game.

Without those miraculous catches he is 17/32 for 92yds 1 TD 0 INT. That is not good...

Both of those passes by Worley were excellent throws to North in tight coverage.

 

[skasper06]

At least this thread won't be read by Worley or any of the team members who could tell Worley about it...man, that could really hurt his feelings....

 

[oregonvol]

Never said Worley was great, but playing against tough SEC defenses, he had improved to the point of being respectable before his injury against Bama.

I just don't agree with this line of thinking. Even if we throw out the Alabama game, where he played horribly, by saying that he was too injured to be effective (I don't like this line of thinking because it assumes that Butch Jones started a guy who he should have known, after a week of practice, was too injured to play), we still have to deal with the fact that 5 of his last 8 drives against South Carolina were 3-and-outs. And his completion percentage was under 50% for the second half of that game (and most passes attempted were short passes). That's not respectable. That's pretty mediocre, and that was the "improved" Worley that was "hitting his stride." That's scary.

 

[k-town_king]

Mauck and Dobbs.

 

[mscox75]

Since Recruits and players read this:

Here you go:

Worley needs to man up and be demanding....so does Dobbs and Peterman

Ferguson is a bull dog and a winner....he demands his teams....watch film of each of them....he is always in control. With the offence under his belt for a year....my money is Ferguson.

So Dobbs, Peterman, and Worley....get vocal....its much needed at this position.

 

[Volfan2012]

I want the QB that wins in the Spring if that happens. Last year Worley was the best even though the board thought it was one of the backups. Proves that Butch had the best guy last year and will find the best this next season as well.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Both of those passes by Worley were excellent throws to North in tight coverage.

Yeah this is what I don't understand. People always say "Worley didn't play good, we won because North made some great catches!"

Who threw the ball to him on those great catches?

 

[oregonvol]

Yeah this is what I don't understand. People always say "Worley didn't play good, we won because North made some great catches!"

Who threw the ball to him on those great catches?

I didn't dismiss the catches (although throwing into double coverage is not typically a good strategy, and though we should be happy it worked once, we have to remember that strategy cost us alot of interceptions at other points too). However, you have to evaluate the whole performance. Even with the catches, Worley was under 50% completions for the 2nd half of that game. Even with those completions, he couldn't get the ball into the endzone. Even with 87 yards on 2 completions, he only had 123 yards passing in the 2nd half.

No one is taking away those completions, but you have to recognize that 2 completions don't obscure the rest of his season either. Lots of folks on here want to dismiss how he played against South Alabama because he hadn't "hit his stride" yet. And they also want to dismiss the entire Alabama game, because he was injured (which assumes that Butch Jones was ignorant to this despite a week of practice or that he just decided to start an injured player anyway). They want to dismiss everything that Worley did except for a couple of games where he didn't play horribly (but still completed barely over 50% of passes, while mostly throwing short routes, and still didn't gain many yards and still had lots of 3-and-outs).

 

[KBVol]

Yeah this is what I don't understand. People always say "Worley didn't play good, we won because North made some great catches!"

Who threw the ball to him on those great catches?

I'm always amused at guys who say, "yeah, but if you take away those 2 throws, or that touchdown or whatever, he really sucked". As if those plays weren't part of the game and didn't happen. If you follow that line of logic, why stop at a play or two? Why not go all the way and say "yeah, but if you take away all of his completions, he really sucked".

Honestly, you could flip it the other way. "If you take away those 3 picks vs So Alabama, Worley played really well." Only problem is you can't. Those 3 picks nearly cost us the game.

 

[SlyStone]

Nick Marshall - Auburn QB. How you left him off your list is inexcusable. His team is playing for the National Championship.

 

[FlaVol08]

All of them, but Driskell.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

All of them, but Driskell.

Really? Even Max Smith?

 

[sjt18]

Obviously the SEC has some great QB's, and I think a lot of UT fans feel Worley is not very good. Personally I am not among them, I think Worley hit his stride and became a pretty legit QB, but just for perspective, which SEC QB's that will be playing next year (that's actually gotten significant playing time) would you rather have?

A. Jeff Driskell - FLA
B. Max Smith - KY
C. Matt Mauk - Mizz
D. Dylan Thompson - SC
E. Dak Prescott - MS State
F. Patton Robinette- Vandy
G. All of the above
H. None of the above

I'm sure there's more but that's all I can think of at the time that will for sure be back next year.

Aren't you one of the ones who gets all upset when someone criticizes a coach? Yet you are willing to start a thread like this for the specific purpose of ripping a player?

 

[VolFan4Life87]

I'm always amused at guys who say, "yeah, but if you take away those 2 throws, or that touchdown or whatever, he really sucked". As if those plays weren't part of the game and didn't happen. If you follow that line of logic, why stop at a play or two? Why not go all the way and say "yeah, but if you take away all of his completions, he really sucked".

Honestly, you could flip it the other way. "If you take away those 3 picks vs So Alabama, Worley played really well." Only problem is you can't. Those 3 picks nearly cost us the game.

I say that because those passes were poorly thrown and that's why I called them miraculous catches by North. One was behind North, the other was into coverage IIRC.

 

[VolFan4Life87]

Along those same lines there have been PLENTY of drops that hit receivers right in the damn palms (josh smith??) so it's not just Worley. He's thrown great passes he's very inconsistent though.

 

[TVOL71]

I just don't agree with this line of thinking. Even if we throw out the Alabama game, where he played horribly, by saying that he was too injured to be effective (I don't like this line of thinking because it assumes that Butch Jones started a guy who he should have known, after a week of practice, was too injured to play), we still have to deal with the fact that 5 of his last 8 drives against South Carolina were 3-and-outs. And his completion percentage was under 50% for the second half of that game (and most passes attempted were short passes). That's not respectable. That's pretty mediocre, and that was the "improved" Worley that was "hitting his stride." That's scary.

Not sure about Ferguson yet, but I think the coaches were aware that we did't have a great QB on the team this past year (Note, hopefully one or more will develop into a great QB this off-season, we will see about that). That being said, I think they mainly want the QBs to manage the game, avoid turnovers (Worley no T/O against Ga., SC) and hopefully have a good play when needed. Worley basically did that against SC, Ga. SC was very much a defensive game (probably the best from the VOL defense), so neither QB had a great game, although Worley out played Shaw. As far as Alabama, I think Jones knew Worley had an injury, although not enough to prevent his play, and he chose to start an experienced junior instead of his only other scholarship QB option, a true freshman with no college experience against one of the best defenses in the country. I can't say I disagree with him on that one. QBs have occasionally been known improve substantially over the off-season, so hopefully our QBs will be better in 2014. Go VOLS.

 

[TVOL71]

Since Recruits and players read this:

Here you go:

Worley needs to man up and be demanding....so does Dobbs and Peterman

Ferguson is a bull dog and a winner....he demands his teams....watch film of each of them....he is always in control. With the offence under his belt for a year....my money is Ferguson.

So Dobbs, Peterman, and Worley....get vocal....its much needed at this position.

Nobody knows about Ferguson until he starts playing in real games. I do agree, they all need to take charge and be aggressive, its their offense.

 

[sjt18]

Along those same lines there have been PLENTY of drops that hit receivers right in the damn palms (josh smith??) so it's not just Worley. He's thrown great passes he's very inconsistent though.

Worley is a smart, level-headed kid with a good arm and decent athleticism. He has potential if he and the WR's get good coaching.

I am different from most here. I end up defending Worley because he takes so much undeserved criticism. But I can support any of those kids and think at least 3 have the potential to become very good QB's at UT.