Who is the best COACH

Who is the best COACH

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#226
#226
KB5252 said:
but the same could be said for drinking and driving.
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No it cant. As soon as you put your key in the ignition when you are above the legal limit you are at risk. Just ask your buddy Vercingetorix. His friend only had to drive 150 yards on three beers before she got a free nights stay at the big house.
 
#227
#227
SaintBruce said:
No it cant. As soon as you put your key in the ignition when you are above the legal limit you are at risk. Just ask your buddy Vercingetorix. His friend only had to drive 150 yards on three beers before she got a free nights stay at the big house.
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Exactly, this person decided she was going to park her car down the street a little way where it wouldn't get towed.She had planned on getting a ride home another way, instead she got pulled over, she didn't think she would get pulled over but she did. She minimized the risk but still got caught.

How is this any different than a jaywalker who decided to walk down the road a little ways to a less congested area, attempted to cross when they thought it was safe but got nailed by a car?

Both tried to minimize the risk but were caught up in an unfortunate series of events that resulted or could have resulted in any number of the outcomes you stated in the previous post (loss of freedom, risk of personal injury, risk of injury to others etc).

Thanks for helping prove my point......try again.
 
#229
#229
KB5252 said:
How is this any different than a jaywalker who decided to walk down the road a little ways to a less congested area, attempted to cross when they thought it was safe but got nailed by a car?
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Haha, anyone that walks in front of a car can definitely be categorized with drunk drivers in the "taint of the earth" category. I don't know what you're trying to prove.
 
#231
#231
SaintBruce said:
Haha, anyone that walks in front of a car can definitely be categorized with drunk drivers in the "taint of the earth" category. I don't know what you're trying to prove.
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Why would you assume this person would deliberately walk in front of a car? How many people are struck by moving cars each year? Do you think they did it on purpose?

You're doing a better job of proving my point than I ever could.
 
#233
#233
SaintBruce said:
Very true. None of these laws however will put your freedom, livelihood, drivers license, and reputation at risk, as I'm sure you will agree.
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Depending on where you live the two examples in bold make your statement false.
 
#234
#234
SaintBruce said:
Haha, anyone that walks in front of a car can definitely be categorized with drunk drivers in the "taint of the earth" category. I don't know what you're trying to prove.
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I was hit by a vehicle as a kid. I ran out in front of him on my bike. I'd like to think I don't fit any of your categories for those of us so unfortunate.
 
#235
#235
BigPapaVol said:
I was hit by a vehicle as a kid. I ran out in front of him on my bike. I'd like to think I don't fit any of your categories for those of us so unfortunate.
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How much more clear do I have to be?

I. Am. Not. Talking. About. Kids. I. Am. Talking. About. Adults. I. Even. Made. A. Point. To. Post. This. Twice.
 
#239
#239
SaintBruce said:
Let me preface this by reiterating what I said at the beginning of this, so it isn't lost on anyone. I am talking about grown men and women here. College freshmen, high school kids, et al get a little slack from me because they likely don't understand all of the consequences of their actions... Moving on

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People that knowingly make a decision that risks their freedom, livelihood, personal safety, and at times the safety of others have serious decision making issues. My opinion is that these people are morons, immature, and most likely people that I would never associate myself with, which is why I call them the taint of society. Again this is just my opinion. I see a lot of you find nothing wrong at all with drinking and driving, good on you. Drink another one.

How is this different from jaywalking? Do we really have to go there?

Now, I think I have explained as well as I am going to be able to, and it has nothing to do with morality. I don't think it's immoral to be a drunk, shoot heroin, or bang 2 dollar hookers every Sunday morning, so everyone can stop trying to project their beliefs and opinions about morality on me.
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Sure we have to go there, because that's the whole crux of it. You have this huge moralizing attitude about DUI that you don't have about other misdemeanors, but refuse to call it an issue of morality. So basically you're playing semantics. You have all the same righteous outrage as a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid moralist, but rather than call it an issue of "morality," you just say that you're outraged at their stupidity and poor decision making. Whatever. Your narrow judgmentalism is what's pertinent, not whatever you choose to call it.
 
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#241
#241
SaintBruce said:
No, I really don't. I just dont surround myself with people that make stupid decisions. I have absolutely nothing against drinking, hell I go out and get drunk myself.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but drinking and especially "getting drunk" puts your health at risk. There is plenty of data that proves this to be the case. So by your own admission you not only surround yourself with people who make stupid decisions (assuming some of the people you hang around with drink) but you are one of them.
 
#242
#242
You don't have an enormously moralizing attitude towards DUI? Seriously?

SaintBruce said:
Yes, any grown man that gets a DUI in today's police society has some serious issues, and is most likely a drunk.
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SaintBruce said:
Haha seriously? Any grown man that gets a DUI is either:

A: A Drunk
B: A Moron
C: The Taint of Society
D: All of the Above (most likely answer)
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on people who have received DUI's before who were just tipsy:

SaintBruce said:
Yes. Those people are just as stupid.
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#243
#243
KB5252 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but drinking and especially "getting drunk" puts your health at risk. There is plenty of data that proves this to be the case. So by your own admission you not only surround yourself with people who make stupid decisions (assuming some of the people you hang around with drink) but you are one of them.
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According to my doctor I am in perfectly fine health. Until he says otherwise, I think I'm A-OK.
 
#245
#245
SaintBruce said:
According to my doctor I am in perfectly fine health. Until he says otherwise, I think I'm A-OK.
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The guy in the passenger seat said I was driving fine. Until he says otherwise I'll continue driving even though I've been drinking.

A guy I worked with lost his life to liver disease last year. He wasn't a lush but he had two or three beer every day after work. He had his doctors endorsement of good health until he was 40 and he developed problems. When the problems developed he quit immediately and was dead within two months.....just saying.
 
#249
#249
BigPapaVol said:
Good let's give te real world a rest and get back to more absolutes that work well in fairy tale land.
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anecdotal evidence: Evidence in the form of an anecdote or hearsay is called anecdotal if there is doubt about its veracity; the evidence itself is considered untrustworthy.

Not exactly the real world.
 
#250
#250
SaintBruce said:
anecdotal evidence: Evidence in the form of an anecdote or hearsay is called anecdotal if there is doubt about its veracity; the evidence itself is considered untrustworthy.

Not exactly the real world.
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I'm aware of the term. I'm not aware of your reasons for questioning the veracity of any evidence posted. All seems plausible, even to the point of mundane.
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