Who is to blame for the past 5 years?

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Fulmer deserves most of the blame. You're right - he should have been fired after 2005. That was pathetic - picked third in the nation en route to a 5-win season. Shameful. His warning shot should have came in 2002, when the Vols went 8-5 due to an easy schedule in which every win came against teams with losing records, followed by the most embarrassing bowl loss in UT history to Maryland. Fulmer is to blame even more than Hammy.
 
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OP, you stated that Fulmer was great until 04 but blame the big guys for not firing him after 05? am i understanding this correctly?
 
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Webbvol32 said:
Who do you blame for the past 5 years of intensive Volunteer humbling? It has been tough and sickening to watch our beloved Vols go down from perennial powerhouse to Vandy East. I personally blame Fulmer and the big guys who did not boot him after 05. The big boosters and AD then hired 2 blithering morons to coach us! So, I blame THE AD AND BOOSTERS ABOVE ALL. Yes,we have had bad luck. Yes, Fulmer was great in 95-04. Yes,the SEC landscape has changed not in our favor. But none of this is any excuse! It was plain that Fulmer was out of his league against Saban,Spurrier,and Miles! I could see. I admire Phil. I admire the players. I DO NOT ADMIRE THE PAST AD AND BOOSTERS WHO HAVE DESTROYED MY VOLS FOR 5 GRUELING YEARS! So,VolNation, to whom do you place the blame for our shameful ineptitude over this span? I DO NOT wanna see players names! We had t4he players to compete THIS YEAR! IT HAS BEEN COACHING! NOT THE PLAYERS! GO VOLS!
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I blame Volnation posters... especially the ones in the Gruden thread ... these guys can't be trusted

I blame the negavols, the sunshine pumpers, the Grudenites, the Doolaid drinkers, the Lane train riders and the Fulmerites... It is all their faults

I blame the blue hairs who do not yell loud enough, I blame the students who never buy up the tickets.

I blame the coaching staff for recruiting 3* players and not ALL 5*s

If there are any other groups I may have missed ..... l Blame YOU TOO

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EDIT: O Crap I forgot the most important one.... I BLAME ESPN cause they hate us :p
 
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Andrew Jackson.

Rocky Top is sitting right on top of the traditional Cherokee homelands, but Old Hickory had to run them off. Unlike any other native tribe the Cherokee were happy to assimilate to our way of life: written language (thanks Sequoyah), daily newspaper, and a Constitution by the time Andy sent them on a death march. Lots of great athletes lost.

Also blame Texas. Probably something to do with the Alamo, not sure exactly . . .
 
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Man, I wish the poster on this board would use better English in their posts. I Think their posts would more likely be better received if some basic knowledge of proper grammar was reflected in their comments.
 
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mgu7 said:
I blame the mountains in Tennessee. hard to pick cottons in a landscape like that in the 1800's, thus lack of in-state talents in present day.
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If I was a potiential minority recruit and saw this I would have serious cocerns about some members of the fan base. I know you think it is cute, but this kind of stereotyping is insidious in its nature. I am sure you had no ill intent, I am just humbly suggesting that this is not cool.
 
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utvolkyle06 said:
If I was a potiential minority recruit and saw this I would have serious cocerns about some members of the fan base. I know you think it is cute, but this kind of stereotyping is insidious in its nature. I am sure you had no ill intent, I am just humbly suggesting that this is not cool.
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So why do you think the SEC is so dominate in college athletics?
 
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Anyone involved with recruiting, cause at the end of the day this is what determines wins and losses in college football.
 
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utvolkyle06 said:
If I was a potiential minority recruit and saw this I would have serious cocerns about some members of the fan base. I know you think it is cute, but this kind of stereotyping is insidious in its nature. I am sure you had no ill intent, I am just humbly suggesting that this is not cool.
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It does have something to do with in state talent. Can we not admit facts?
 
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onthefield said:
Just curious...?
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I don't have any empirical evidence. But my guess is because the SEC cares more about football as a way of life. I have heard it referred to as a religion. If the argument is because of the percentage of minorities, then you would think that areas like east St. Louis and Detroit and Cleveland would produce the best recruiting areas.
I am not suggesting that black athletes are not important in all conferences and I am proud that UT's record in leading the way in integrating.
My concern is when you link any minority to stereotyping it is not helpful. Linking recruiting to picking cotton as the poster alluded to stereotyping.
 
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Webbvol32 said:
Who do you blame for the past 5 years of intensive Volunteer humbling? It has been tough and sickening to watch our beloved Vols go down from perennial powerhouse to Vandy East. I personally blame Fulmer and the big guys who did not boot him after 05. The big boosters and AD then hired 2 blithering morons to coach us! So, I blame THE AD AND BOOSTERS ABOVE ALL. Yes,we have had bad luck. Yes, Fulmer was great in 95-04. Yes,the SEC landscape has changed not in our favor. But none of this is any excuse! It was plain that Fulmer was out of his league against Saban,Spurrier,and Miles! I could see. I admire Phil. I admire the players. I DO NOT ADMIRE THE PAST AD AND BOOSTERS WHO HAVE DESTROYED MY VOLS FOR 5 GRUELING YEARS! So,VolNation, to whom do you place the blame for our shameful ineptitude over this span? I DO NOT wanna see players names! We had t4he players to compete THIS YEAR! IT HAS BEEN COACHING! NOT THE PLAYERS! GO VOLS!
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OrangeByBirth said:
Blame? 1 Hamilton, 2 Hamilton, 3 Hamilton, etc
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this
 
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I blame the guy that hurt Rohan Davy with the cheap shot in the SEC championship game against LSU..all down hill since then..!
 
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I blame the marketing department. We have a great school nestled in the Smokey Mountains with one of the 3 best stadiums in college football. We have hunting, fishing, waterskiing, a warm yet temperate climate. We have Smokey, a Rocky Mountain Navy (one of two schools water accessible). We have a dead body farm for forensics junkies which is great around halloween. We have a city that puts the university a very close second to God, and dead even with family and country. We have beautiful green mountains, hills and valleys and none of that brown prarie grass or that is prevalent in the West, including Colorado where I reside. We have pickup trucks, four wheeling, moonshine, sexy hay rides, and daisy duke shorts, yet K-town is a fairly low crime, city without the inner city decay and gridlock traffic jams. Low cost of living, friendly folks with great Southern accents, ski slopes in the winter (just not on Saturday's). Oh and the University is very personable, and their Business School and Forensics are highly rated. People in Knoxville are very good at cookin too, especially comfort food and BBQ. The area is a paradise for spelunkers,antique collectors and homemade crafts. The Scotch Irish not only make good wiskey but can play a mean bango and steel guitar. Not that there is a shortage of Jazz and that other mess they play nowadays. The only hit I can think of is that they probably aren't up to snuff with Colorado Green Chile.

What's not to like? So we don't have a swamp like Florida or FSU, So we don't have a city paralyzed by gridlock like Austin or LA. So we don't have the daily double on homicides like MI or LA. And we aren't overly infected by the libtards like Madison, WI but we do have buttchugers, lol. We don't have cotton fields and a dilapidated stip of HUD project homes otherwise know as the Tuscaloosa tornado strip, waaa, waaa! Face it Knoxville is top-knotch for going to college.
 
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utvolkyle06 said:
I don't have any empirical evidence. But my guess is because the SEC cares more about football as a way of life. I have heard it referred to as a religion. If the argument is because of the percentage of minorities, then you would think that areas like east St. Louis and Detroit and Cleveland would produce the best recruiting areas.
I am not suggesting that black athletes are not important in all conferences and I am proud that UT's record in leading the way in integrating.
My concern is when you link any minority to stereotyping it is not helpful. Linking recruiting to picking cotton as the poster alluded to stereotyping.
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Agree w the fact that football in the south is a way of life. Also agree w the stereotyping concern, but it is a fact that a large percentage of the black population is in the south today and that reality is because of our unfortunate way of life in the early stages of American history.
By the way, it is all on Hamilton!
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
Man, I wish the poster on this board would use better English in their posts. I Think their posts would more likely be better received if some basic knowledge of proper grammar was reflected in their comments.
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I hope the butchering of English above was some Sunday sarcasm
 
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