Who takes over at Alabama?

#26
#26
I would think that Washington's HC Deboer would be considered too. He will have to maintain success and show its not just Penix, but at this point I think he could be considered.

if they are just looking for a bridge coach I would look at Leipold or Klieman. to fill in for a year or two if they had younger coach they were wanting to groom.

I don't see them going after any SEC coach except for maybe Smart, unless someone else pops off a playoff run. I think a conference championship is going to be a minimum for any coach.

If Rhule has any success at Nebraska he might be considered.

If Elko sustains it could be him, or even Norvell. depends on what Bama is looking for. Do they want to keep the old school theme, or are they looking to change things up and bring in someone exciting?
 
#27
#27
I never thought Bama was a legit option. Dabo has been a god at Clemson. But now he’s struggling and it seems like Clemson won’t pony up so maybe he wants out. But I don’t think that is a legit option.

The other issue is this. Somebody is going to take that job obviously. But why would a proven guy want it? You can make $7M coaching at Kentucky now. Why take that job and get staked with “national title or bust” and probably 3 years AT MOST to prove yourself? Look at what they did to Bill Curry after Bear retired. It’s going to be fascinating.

They might get lucky and hit on a great coach the first try but that's a rare occurrence these days. Like you said, why would anyone secure in their position or looking to move up want that to be the one immediately following Saban?
 
#28
#28
Since Dabo has struggled this year, the interest on Bama’s side probably faded.

However, you’re crazy to think Dabo won’t have serious interest if Bama makes him a generous offer.

I just can’t see Dabo turning down his Alma mater to get more money from Clemson. Then again, I’ve been wrong before.
 
#29
#29
Since Dabo has struggled this year, the interest on Bama’s side probably faded.

However, you’re crazy to think Dabo won’t have serious interest if Bama makes him a generous offer.

I just can’t see Dabo turning down his Alma mater to get more money from Clemson. Then again, I’ve been wrong before.

Why would Dabo leave a program he built for the unrealistic expectations of Bama?
 
#30
#30
Why would Dabo leave a program he built for the unrealistic expectations of Bama?

Well, he’s a born & raised Bammer.

It’s a chance to coach at his Alma Mater.

Maybe they offer him a butt load of money that he can’t refuse?

We’re looking at it from a fan’s perspective.

Do I think he’ll leave Clemson? No but to say there wouldn’t be serious interest on Dabo’s part, is a little too far stretched imo.
 
#31
#31
Well, he’s a born & raised Bammer.

It’s a chance to coach at his Alma Mater.

Maybe they offer him a butt load of money that he can’t refuse?

We’re looking at it from a fan’s perspective.

Do I think he’ll leave Clemson? No but to say there wouldn’t be serious interest on Dabo’s part, is a little too far stretched imo.

I think people put entirely too much emphasis on Alma Maters and their lure.

Dabo is only 53 and an unsuccessful stint at Bama could be a career killer. Now, I wouldn't be surprised to see him come in after the guy that follows Saban and expectations are lowered.
 
#32
#32
I think people put entirely too much emphasis on Alma Maters and their lure.

Dabo is only 53 and an unsuccessful stint at Bama could be a career killer. Now, I wouldn't be surprised to see him come in after the guy that follows Saban and expectations are lowered.

We will see.
 
#33
#33
I never thought Bama was a legit option. Dabo has been a god at Clemson. But now he’s struggling and it seems like Clemson won’t pony up so maybe he wants out. But I don’t think that is a legit option.

The other issue is this. Somebody is going to take that job obviously. But why would a proven guy want it? You can make $7M coaching at Kentucky now. Why take that job and get staked with “national title or bust” and probably 3 years AT MOST to prove yourself? Look at what they did to Bill Curry after Bear retired. It’s going to be fascinating.
If Saban retired after the 2015 or maybe the 2016 season, I think he would have gone to Bama. Ever since then, there's absolutely no reason for him to. The irony though is that if he continues to struggle at Clemson, I don't think Bama people would really want him anymore. His very public disdain for NIL and the Portal is also a big turn-off. If he turns it around again, Bama might be more interested but I bet he's less interested in leaving.

They might have to offer someone a gigantic fully guaranteed contract, especially if that someone is a proven coach elsewhere, to make the jump. It would be hilarious if they end up eating some ridiculous sum because the new guys starts 10-2, 10-2 and they can him, lol.
 
#34
#34
Well, he’s a born & raised Bammer.

It’s a chance to coach at his Alma Mater.

Maybe they offer him a butt load of money that he can’t refuse?

We’re looking at it from a fan’s perspective.

Do I think he’ll leave Clemson? No but to say there wouldn’t be serious interest on Dabo’s part, is a little too far stretched imo.
Dabo is a god at Clemson. Unless he goes to Alabama and wins 7 national titles, he could only possibly be Alabama's 3rd best coach.
 
#38
#38
I thought they were grooming O’Brien but him take the NE OC job shows that wasn’t the case.

It’s going to be interesting. Saban hiring a super young OC like Rees might be something? Maybe Dabo would take it now after it seems Clemson isn’t fully committed to ponying up in the NIL era? There doesn’t seem to be a legit guy waiting in the wings
I thought it was Dabo who didn't like the portal and NIL? You think Clemson WASN'T compensating players before it became legal?

I don't believe for a second Nick Saban is doing anything but "talking to people" about his leaving and it's getting blown up, even in whispered conversations, to "after this year is over."

I get that Bama and Saban would want to minimize the recruiting hit by keeping it low profile but to think we "saw it here first" on VN before some Bama beat reporter got wind of it is a stretch for me.
 
#39
#39
I think people put entirely too much emphasis on Alma Maters and their lure.

Dabo is only 53 and an unsuccessful stint at Bama could be a career killer. Now, I wouldn't be surprised to see him come in after the guy that follows Saban and expectations are lowered.
I think one thing to consider is that Clemson itself may not be overly attractive unless they are able to get out of the ACC. There is a pretty steep financial dropoff in the ACC from the Big 10 and the SEC. Pretty sure they will be behind the Big 12 too. and its not by a small amount.

facilities, assistant coaches, your own pay check, all of that has a much lower ceiling in the ACC.
 
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#40
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I think one thing to consider is that Clemson itself may not be overly attractive unless they are able to get out of the ACC. There is a pretty steep financial dropoff in the ACC from the Big 10 and the SEC. Pretty sure they will be behind the Big 12 too. and its not by a small amount.

facilities, assistant coaches, your own pay check, all of that has a much lower ceiling in the ACC.
Dabo is making 11.5M a year. The money is there if you win. Granted, the ACC isn't going to get the TV revenue but Clemson and FSU are the only real fish in the pond so success is baked in.

Ohio State and Michigan nod approvingly at the above.
 
#41
#41
Dabo is making 11.5M a year. The money is there if you win. Granted, the ACC isn't going to get the TV revenue but Clemson and FSU are the only real fish in the pond so success is baked in.

Ohio State and Michigan nod approvingly at the above.
Clemson isn't winning right now. clemson is back to clemsoning big games. I doubt the big donor money is rolling in as much as it was. and it will only get worse the longer they suffer.

the much over hyped Klubnik is still qb for at least another year. Riley's offense has yet to take off. but just in his first year of three. how long do they stick with either going forward? its the same point that was made earlier, if Clemson continues to struggle Dabo will be less attractive to outside schools, but probably more willing to leave. the ACC money aspect is just another reason to go, unless that gets worked out.
 
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#42
#42
Clemson isn't winning right now. clemson is back to clemsoning big games. I doubt the big donor money is rolling in as much as it was. and it will only get worse the longer they suffer.

the much over hyped Klubnik is still qb for at least another year. Riley's offense has yet to take off. but just in his first year of three. how long do they stick with either going forward? its the same point that was made earlier, if Clemson continues to struggle Dabo will be less attractive to outside schools, but probably more willing to leave. the ACC money aspect is just another reason to go, unless that gets worked out.
I never saw Dabo as Bama material. I think the "get a homeboy" days are done for college football. It's big business now so get someone who can manage "The Firm" and keep the business successful.

He might TRY to jump from Clemson because it's sinking, he's got his Nattys, and he's a Bama boy. It's probably his best path away from Clemson but I don't think it's Bama's best post-Nick path.

Depending on TX having success, I'd not be surprised to see Sark get the Bama job. Just my opinion.
 
#43
#43
I never saw Dabo as Bama material. I think the "get a homeboy" days are done for college football. It's big business now so get someone who can manage "The Firm" and keep the business successful.

He might TRY to jump from Clemson because it's sinking, he's got his Nattys, and he's a Bama boy. It's probably his best path away from Clemson but I don't think it's Bama's best post-Nick path.

Depending on TX having success, I'd not be surprised to see Sark get the Bama job. Just my opinion.
I think its the same issue with Texas. If Sark has success at Texas for Bama to want him, Texas will want to keep him. and if there is anyone that can outbid Bama, its Texas. Texas will also be in the SEC so he wouldn't be gaining anything.
 
#44
#44
I think its the same issue with Texas. If Sark has success at Texas for Bama to want him, Texas will want to keep him. and if there is anyone that can outbid Bama, its Texas. Texas will also be in the SEC so he wouldn't be gaining anything.
I agree there and Sark may be in the "catbird's seat" and be able to make bank from the bidding war AND coach wherever he feels is best for his career and family.
 
#46
#46
I never thought Bama was a legit option. Dabo has been a god at Clemson. But now he’s struggling and it seems like Clemson won’t pony up so maybe he wants out. But I don’t think that is a legit option.

The other issue is this. Somebody is going to take that job obviously. But why would a proven guy want it? You can make $7M coaching at Kentucky now. Why take that job and get staked with “national title or bust” and probably 3 years AT MOST to prove yourself? Look at what they did to Bill Curry after Bear retired. It’s going to be fascinating.

99% of coaches would love to be at a place where that was the expectation, year-in and year-out. Especially when you have unlimited resources to work with in order to get there.
 
#47
#47
99% of coaches would love to be at a place where that was the expectation, year-in and year-out. Especially when you have unlimited resources to work with in order to get there.
I disagree. I think coaches hate the expectation of winning, or almost winning, a title every year and the lack of job security that comes with it. Hence the huge buyouts they ask for (and often get). I would say most coaches have love/hate relationships with their fanbases/boosters. From their perspective, the relationship is purely transactional - they love you if you're winning and want to run you out of town if you're losing.

Coaches love the unlimited resources, but unfortunately (for them) with that comes the expectations.
 
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#48
#48
I would think that Washington's HC Deboer would be considered too. He will have to maintain success and show its not just Penix, but at this point I think he could be considered.

if they are just looking for a bridge coach I would look at Leipold or Klieman. to fill in for a year or two if they had younger coach they were wanting to groom.

I don't see them going after any SEC coach except for maybe Smart, unless someone else pops off a playoff run. I think a conference championship is going to be a minimum for any coach.

If Rhule has any success at Nebraska he might be considered.

If Elko sustains it could be him, or even Norvell. depends on what Bama is looking for. Do they want to keep the old school theme, or are they looking to change things up and bring in someone exciting?

I thought about Deboer but he has never coached in the South - that could be a Bryan Harsin situation all over again.

Elko, on the other hand, could be in play. He spent four years at A&M.
 
#49
#49
I disagree. I think coaches hate the expectation of winning, or almost winning, a title every year and the lack of job security that comes with it. Hence the huge buyouts they ask for (and often get). I would say most coaches have love/hate relationships with their fanbases/boosters. From their perspective, the relationship is purely transactional - they love you if you're winning and want to run you out of town if you're losing.

Coaches love the unlimited resources, but unfortunately (for them) with that comes the expectations.

I believe the vast majority of them long for that one opportunity to coach on the biggest stage and enjoy all of the trappings of the job that come with it. Once they get there, though, many find out it’s not all it’s cracked up to be, while some rise to the occasion.
 
#50
#50
I thought about Deboer but he has never coached in the South - that could be a Bryan Harsin situation all over again.

Elko, on the other hand, could be in play. He spent four years at A&M.
Nick Saban had never coached in the south before he went to LSU. Urban had never coached in the south before he went to Florida. Harsin didn’t fail at Auburn because of his lack of SEC experience. He failed because he was an arrogant ass who alienated a lot of the boosters and higher ups inthe university.
 

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