Whoa! Aaron murray gets destroyed (video)

[GAVol]

Ok? The hit was illegal. Helmet to helmet hits can seriously hurt players. Some helmet to helmet hits may not be on purpose but this one defiantly was. That's my problem with the hit.

I'll at least listen to that argument. I don't see the late part thug.

 

[UofLFan]

What if the ball carrier cuts back or stops? Would Aaron Murray have stopped running so that he wouldn't have made the tackle?

I have no problem with him getting blocked. But the way he was hit. The Alabama defender could have taken his legs out, or hit him in the midsection, or given him a good shot to the shoulder. I am ok with him getting hit on the play, just not the way he was hit.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

I'm fairly certain neither of those things occurred on that play.

I'd like to see Quinton Dial knock you the f*** out. Maybe knock some of the stupid out of you.

 

[UofLFan]

I'll at least listen to that argument. I don't see the late part thug.

Yeah, my bad on calling it a late hit. Didn't look at the video close enough at first.

 

[UofLFan]

I'd like to see Quinton Dial knock you the f*** out. Maybe knock some of the stupid out of you.

LOL it's not like you get brain damage from one hit. Which seems to be his thinking. But if he approves of hits like this over time the results will show.

 

[bleedorange0037]

I'd like to see Quinton Dial knock you the f*** out. Maybe knock some of the stupid out of you.

Whatever dude. Go on thinking that hitting should be taken out of football. Just because you or me wouldn't want to take that hit doesn't mean it Aaron Murray should get immunity from those type of hits when he becomes a tackler after throwing an INT.

For the life of me I can't understand why people think it's the responsibility of the NFL to be a nanny that protects the players from themselves. They're grown men who are fully capable of weighing the risks of playing a violent game with the financial rewards that come along with it. If the money doesn't make it worth the risk, then they can earn a living another way. I know we're not specifically talking about a hit from an NFL game, but this is all a trickle down from Goodell's crusade to eliminate hitting from football.

 

[UofLFan]

Whatever dude. Go on thinking that hitting should be taken out of football. Just because you or me wouldn't want to take that hit doesn't mean it Aaron Murray should get immunity from those type of hits when he becomes a tackler after throwing an INT.

For the life of me I can't understand why people think it's the responsibility of the NFL to be a nanny that protects the players from themselves. They're grown men who are fully capable of weighing the risks of playing a violent game with the financial rewards that come along with it. If the money doesn't make it worth the risk, then they can earn a living another way. I know we're not specifically talking about a hit from an NFL game, but this is all a trickle down from Goodell's crusade to eliminate hitting from football.

You act like the guys just play football and have no life's. They guys will have wife's and kids when they are in the nfl. If these kind of hits are allowed it will hurt someone. We are not saying to take out all the hitting. But helmet to helmet? It needs to be gone.

 

[bleedorange0037]

You act like the guys just play football and have no lives. They guys will have wife's and kids when they are in the nfl. If these kind of hits are allowed it will hurt someone. We are not saying to take out all the hitting. But helmet to helmet? It needs to be gone.

I'm sorry, but there are obscene financial rewards for playing in the NFL. If the danger of the hitting is more than some guys can stomach, they have the option to make a living elsewhere.

By the way, people have been getting paralyzed playing football for as long as the game has been played. IMO that's a far worse fate than what concussions do to you. However, I never saw that as an impetus to dumb the game down for safety's sake. It was always viewed as an unfortunate byproduct of playing a dangerous game. The difference with the concussions is the lawsuits that have been laid on the NFL. Make no mistake, this has nothing to do with player safety and everything to do with money.

I've always considered the show The Deadliest Catch when thinking about what Goodell is trying to turn football into. Those guys go out there on the boats knowing they stand to make a huge sum of money for a few months work. They also go in knowing it is highly dangerous and that there is a chance they might not make it back alive. It's simple risk vs. reward.

 

[UofLFan]

eace2:

I'm sorry, but there are obscene financial rewards for playing in the NFL. If the danger of the hitting is more than some guys can stomach, they have the option to make a living elsewhere.

By the way, people have been getting paralyzed playing football for as long as the game has been played. IMO that's a far worse fate than what concussions do to you. However, I never saw that as an impetus to dumb the game down for safety's sake. It was always viewed as an unfortunate byproduct of playing a dangerous game. The difference with the concussions is the lawsuits that have been laid on the NFL. Make no mistake, this has nothing to do with player safety and everything to do with money.

I've always considered the show The Deadliest Catch when thinking about what Goodell is trying to turn football into. Those guys go out there on the boats knowing they stand to make a huge sum of money for a few months work. They also go in knowing it is highly dangerous and that there is a chance they might not make it back alive. It's simple risk vs. reward.

Yes there are many risks to playing football. But the risks are greatly increased when helmet to helmet hits are legal. Leading with your helmet in anyway is a mistake because you can get paralyzed.

 

[bleedorange0037]

eace2:
Yes there are many risks to playing football. But the risks are greatly increased when helmet to helmet hits are legal. Leading with your helmet in anyway is a mistake because you can get paralyzed.

Yet for some reason nobody gave a damn for nearly 100 years until the NFL had some of it's profits at stake. Once that happened they didn't hesitate to start dumbing down their game. Don't act like it's just helmet to helmet either. They've gotten to the point that you can't even hit receivers hard anymore. The "new" way to defend is to let the receiver catch the ball and then get him to the ground. You sure as hell can't try to hit him while he's "defenseless" and knock the ball out.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

Whatever dude. Go on thinking that hitting should be taken out of football. Just because you or me wouldn't want to take that hit doesn't mean it Aaron Murray should get immunity from those type of hits when he becomes a tackler after throwing an INT.

For the life of me I can't understand why people think it's the responsibility of the NFL to be a nanny that protects the players from themselves. They're grown men who are fully capable of weighing the risks of playing a violent game with the financial rewards that come along with it. If the money doesn't make it worth the risk, then they can earn a living another way. I know we're not specifically talking about a hit from an NFL game, but this is all a trickle down from Goodell's crusade to eliminate hitting from football.

Gosh you're stupid as f***! No one thinks the penalty should be called cause he's a QB dumbass. It should be a penalty if it was an 800# OL getting hit. So please stop saying his position shouldn't get immunity. Maybe you've already been brain damaged from too many hits.

 

[Insunseri]

Yet for some reason nobody gave a damn for nearly 100 years until the NFL had some of it's profits at stake. Once that happened they didn't hesitate to start dumbing down their game. Don't act like it's just helmet to helmet either. They've gotten to the point that you can't even hit receivers hard anymore. The "new" way to defend is to let the receiver catch the ball and then get him to the ground. You sure as hell can't try to hit him while he's "defenseless" and knock the ball out.

I think this was cheap hit and should have been flagged. But yeah I could see football getting to the point where the good solid hits we see on highlight reels are outlawed

 

[bleedorange0037]

Gosh you're stupid as f***! No one thinks the penalty should be called cause he's a QB dumbass. It should be a penalty if it was an 800# OL getting hit. So please stop saying his position shouldn't get immunity. Maybe you've already been brain damaged from too many hits.

The hit wouldn't have looked that bad if he'd hit another player his own size. The main reason it looked bad was because Murray wasn't aware of his surroundings and got completely blindsided and laid out like a ragdoll someone almost twice his size while running towards the play. It wasn't the dirty play you'd like to think it was. Just one huge guy putting a big hit on somebody MUCH smaller than him.

 

[UofLFan]

Yet for some reason nobody gave a damn for nearly 100 years until the NFL had some of it's profits at stake. Once that happened they didn't hesitate to start dumbing down their game. Don't act like it's just helmet to helmet either. They've gotten to the point that you can't even hit receivers hard anymore. The "new" way to defend is to let the receiver catch the ball and then get him to the ground. You sure as hell can't try to hit him while he's "defenseless" and knock the ball out.

Sure the NFL is not as physical as it once was. But really who cares? There are still big hits in the game there always will be. Also it's not like ratings are suffering. You act like they play flag football out there, why don't you play a game and see if they hit hard enough?

 

[bleedorange0037]

Sure the NFL is not as physical as it once was. But really who cares? There are still big hits in the game there always will be. Also it's not like ratings are suffering. You act like they play flag football out there, why don't you play a game and see if the hit hard enough?

Actually in a lot of ways they are. Compared with 10 years ago the game is ridiculously tilted towards the offensive side of the ball. It seems like the days of getting to watch 14-10 type slugfests are gone. After Manning and the Colts started complaining about the Patriots being to physical several years ago, they all but put an end to lock down defense when the eliminated the corners ability to hand check receivers. Now, as they stop letting defenders hit receivers going over the middle for balls and put the QB's in an even more harcore safety bubble, the lean towards offense is probably only going to get worse.

 

[UofLFan]

Actually in a lot of ways they are. Compared with 10 years ago the game is ridiculously tilted towards the offensive side of the ball. It seems like the days of getting to watch 14-10 type slugfests are gone. After Manning and the Colts started complaining about the Patriots being to physical several years ago, they all but put an end to lock down defense when the eliminated the corners ability to hand check receivers. Now, as they stop letting defenders hit receivers going over the middle for balls and put the QB's in an even more harcore safety bubble, the lean towards offense is probably only going to get worse.

There are still teams known for hard hitting defense. Ravens,Steelers,Bears,etc. As I said the game is not as physical as it was but some NOT ALL hits needed to be outlawed. If more offense means better and healthier life's for the players then so be it. They are paid to play football and last time I checked they still do.

 

[OrangeBalls]

Only because the commissioner of the NFL is the worlds biggest vagina. Big hits happen in football. If you can't take them then find a different line of work.

Yeah, forget the fact that he got his brains jumbled on a cheapshot play. I imagine if it were your kid out there then you still wouldn't have a problem with it?

Good Lord. You're as bad as the 12 year old girls who threw a fit that we didn't get Gruden.

 

[OrangeBalls]

The hit wouldn't have looked that bad if he'd hit another player his own size. The main reason it looked bad was because Murray wasn't aware of his surroundings and got completely blindsided and laid out like a ragdoll someone almost twice his size while running towards the play. It wasn't the dirty play you'd like to think it was. Just one huge guy putting a big hit on somebody MUCH smaller than him.

No, it was helmet to helmet and any person with a brain flags that play. I guarantee you that the ref will be reprimanded behind the scenes for missing that one.

 

[bleedorange0037]

Yeah, forget the fact that he got his brains jumbled on a cheapshot play. I imagine if it were your kid out there then you still wouldn't have a problem with it?

Good Lord. You're as bad as the 12 year old girls who threw a fit that we didn't get Gruden.

I probably wouldn't be thrilled, but that's just something that comes along with what Murray has chosen to do with his life. Just like any of the occupational hazards that come with other jobs. Sometimes it sucks, but such is life.

 

[UofLFan]

Answer me this bleedorange. Could the Alabama defender have hit him somewhere else? Did he have to hit him helmet to helmet? The answer is obviously no and that is what makes it a cheap shot. There are many clean blocks in football. This was not one of them.

 

[bleedorange0037]

No, it was helmet to helmet and any person with a brain flags that play. I guarantee you that the ref will be reprimanded behind the scenes for missing that one.

Whatever dude. Clearly neither of us is coming off our stance. I just don't think that simply because 2 helmets touch one another than it warrants an automatic penalty. Other people such as yourself apparently do. We're going to have to agree to disagree.

 

[OrangeBalls]

I probably wouldn't be thrilled, but that's just something that comes along with what Murray has chosen to do with his life. Just like any of the occupational hazards that come with other jobs. Sometimes it sucks, but such is life.

It was a cheapshot intended to knock him out of the game. He knew he had a free shot and took it and targeted his head. I guarantee you ass gets his knees taken out if that happens at the next level. He's lucky 2 UGA linemen didn't go after his knees. Kind of like the 2 Mizzou linemen that went after Fanning after he cheap shotted the Mizzou RB.

Alabama's Lamichael Fanning suplexes Missouri Runningback - YouTube

 

[OrangeBalls]

Whatever dude. Clearly neither of us is coming off our stance. I just don't think that simply because 2 helmets touch one another than it warrants an automatic penalty. Other people such as yourself apparently do. We're going to have to agree to disagree.

And the NFL and NCAA disagree with you.

 

[bleedorange0037]

Answer me this bleedorange. Could the Alabama defender have hit him somewhere else? Did he have to hit him helmet to helmet? The answer is obviously no and that is what makes it a cheap shot. There are many clean blocks in football. This was not one of them.

I'm just of the opinion that you should give guys the benefit of the doubt. I think it's VERY rare that somebody truly goes in with the flat out intention of hitting another guy in the head with his helmet. As we've both acknowledged here, it's a dangerous thing to do. However, with the stakes that came with winning that game, the clear frustration of a bad turnover, the speed the game is played at, and the chaos that ensues on an INT return like that, things just sometimes happen that way.

 

[bleedorange0037]

It was a cheapshot intended to knock him out of the game. He knew he had a free shot and took it and targeted his head. I guarantee you ass gets his knees taken out if that happens at the next level. He's lucky 2 UGA linemen didn't go after his knees. Kind of like the 2 Mizzou linemen that went after Fanning after he cheap shotted the Mizzou RB.

Alabama's Lamichael Fanning suplexes Missouri Runningback - YouTube

That's flat out bulls*** and you know it. Again, if guys don't want to get hit (QB's or otherwise) they are welcome to make their way to the sideline.