why according to Mccain and Obama are poor people more important than rich people?

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DAVOL said:
:crazy:
Then why is McCain and Obama mentioned in the thread title hmmm I thought they were running for office.You know your disdain for me makes me laugh.
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that's why I changed it. same point, but changed it after I read the title.

my bad.

by the way, I don't have disdain for you. I just think you're a political goofball with little ability to reason through what you're talking about. I also think you own a keyboard with no punctuation marks on it.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
that's why I changed it. same point, but changed it after I read the title.

my bad.

by the way, I don't have disdain for you. I just think you're a political goofball with little ability to reason through what you're talking about. I also think you own a keyboard with no punctuation marks on it.
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Just a little to slow on the draw you about changed it in time. I was just a little quicker.:eek:k:
 
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BigPapaVol said:
that's why I changed it. same point, but changed it after I read the title.

my bad.

by the way, I don't have disdain for you. I just think you're a political goofball with little ability to reason through what you're talking about. I also think you own a keyboard with no punctuation marks on it.
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Funny I think the same of your politics and considering you never capitalize anything I guess your shift or caps keys do not work.:)
 
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DAVOL said:
Funny I think the same of your politics and considering you never capitalize anything I guess your shift or caps keys do not work.:)
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I rarely capitalize the first sentence and typically capitalize thereafter. Intermittent capitalization can still be read. Unpunctuated drivel is just hard to decipher.
 
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DAVOL said:
Not necessarily is not a sentence.:)
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well done (which isn't technically a sentence either).

Don't tell anyone, but "not necessarily" without quotes isn't a subject either.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
not necessarily. I think you're mixing lesser paid folks with factory jobs.
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I am, but to get back to my point, are the working class and the upper classes not dependent on one another? By that logic, is it possible to measure importance?
 
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emainvol said:
I am, but to get back to my point, are the working class and the upper classes not dependent on one another? By that logic, is it possible to measure importance?
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in economic terms as individual contributors, sure it's possible to measure.

As collective classes, it's probably not possible to measure.

Bottom line is that lame ass politicians are simply pandering for votes by making a truckload of hollow promises to the working man.
 
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droski said:
i didn't say the factory worker was useless just not as important as the person making 10 times his income and sure as hell not MORE important.
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Actually, as far as the market is concerned the person earning 400k is worth 10 times the person earning 40k. That may sound harsh but IÂ’m not talking about a persons worth as a human being; because there are some people earning 40k that have a higher value to society than some earning 400k and visa versa. But speaking strictly on a market basis, those who earn more are worth more.

As far as consumption is concerned, those who earn more return more into the market through purchasing more consumer goods. This creates a demand for the production of said goods. This creates jobs. Not just factory jobs, but also management, accounting, marketing, IT etc. And as previously stated, these higher earners also pay a lot more (as a matter of fact a disproportionate amount) in income taxes. These tax dollars go to help support many of the services and entitlements consumed by those who pay very little to no income tax.
 
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jcwvolfan said:
Actually, as far as the market is concerned the person earning 400k is worth 10 times the person earning 40k. That may sound harsh but IÂ’m not talking about a persons worth as a human being; because there are some people earning 40k that have a higher value to society than some earning 400k and visa versa. But speaking strictly on a market basis, those who earn more are worth more.

As far as consumption is concerned, those who earn more return more into the market through purchasing more consumer goods. This creates a demand for the production of said goods. This creates jobs. Not just factory jobs, but also management, accounting, marketing, IT etc. And as previously stated, these higher earners also pay a lot more (as a matter of fact a disproportionate amount) in income taxes. These tax dollars go to help support many of the services and entitlements consumed by those who pay very little to no income tax.
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exactly. the rich are better and mean more.

I say weshould have minimum annual income for voting rights and those on the gov't cheese, unless earned via work or retirement, have no right to vote.
 
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droski said:
I'm sick of all this "wall street" vs "main street" bs. Why should we care more about the average factory worker making 40K a year than we do the wall street trader making 400K a year? who pays more in taxes? who supports all the unemployed and lazy and dumb people in this country? who spends more money? who buys the goods that the factory worker is making? who is smarter? who is more important to the future of america? I'm sick of this :censored:.
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You must have not lived a day in the shoes of the factory worker if you belive that load of crap.
 
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droski said:
I'm sick of all this "wall street" vs "main street" bs. Why should we care more about the average factory worker making 40K a year than we do the wall street trader making 400K a year? who pays more in taxes? who supports all the unemployed and lazy and dumb people in this country? who spends more money? who buys the goods that the factory worker is making? who is smarter? who is more important to the future of america? I'm sick of this :censored:.
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Sounds like someone is very bitter about being burned in the equities market lately.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
in economic terms as individual contributors, sure it's possible to measure.

As collective classes, it's probably not possible to measure.

Bottom line is that lame ass politicians are simply pandering for votes by making a truckload of hollow promises to the working man.
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Yea, it's the same as people saying Dem's care more about black people than Repub's.
 
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DAVOL said:
Sad so sad that you are serious.
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The only sad part is that years of entitlement legislation have forced us to export jobs halfway around the world in order to be cost efficient. If you want to keep jobs in the US, then work to get rid of the minimum wage.
 
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droski said:
I'm sick of all this "wall street" vs "main street" bs. Why should we care more about the average factory worker making 40K a year than we do the wall street trader making 400K a year? who pays more in taxes? who supports all the unemployed and lazy and dumb people in this country? who spends more money? who buys the goods that the factory worker is making? who is smarter? who is more important to the future of america? I'm sick of this :censored:.
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We live in a Democracy, and there are many more poor voters than rich. Is it pandering? To a point.

You had a whole lot rich Wall Street guys run their companies into the ground and it is going to be the average Joes picking up their tabs. People on both sides are really pissed right now and they want blood.

There is nothing wrong with being wealthy, but it would be political suicide for any Politician not to run on a Populist agenda.
 
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lazy4163 said:
We live in a Democracy, and there are many more poor voters than rich. Is it pandering? To a point.

You had a whole lot rich Wall Street guys run their companies into the ground and it is going to be the average Joes picking up their tabs. People on both sides are really pissed right now and they want blood.

There is nothing wrong with being wealthy, but it would be political suicide for any Politician not to run on a Populist agenda.
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the average joes won't pick up as much as the above average joes. In fact, it won't be anywhere close in the end.
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lazy4163 said:
We live in a Democracy, and there are many more poor voters than rich. Is it pandering? To a point.

You had a whole lot rich Wall Street guys run their companies into the ground and it is going to be the average Joes picking up their tabs. People on both sides are really pissed right now and they want blood.

There is nothing wrong with being wealthy, but it would be political suicide for any Politician not to run on a Populist agenda.
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You sir are wrong. This is not and was never intended to be a democracy. However I will grant you that we are unfortunately moving closer towards being a democracy.
 
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