Why do y'all say GT sucks?

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Brave Volunteer said:
1.) Because GT is a middling program that plays in a high school stadium and is never nationally relevant.

2.) Top to bottom they usually field a team of mediocre talent that is somewhat masked by the fact that they run a gimmicky offense that's very hard to scheme for and as a result, they sneak up on teams that should never lose to them. However I also notice that when good teams get a fair amount of time to scheme for it, they take you apart.

3.) Your defenses are typically garbage. Offenses go through them like an Olympic bobsled team.

I guess that's OK if your goal is upsetting a higher ranked team once in a while. However until I start seeing GT playing in the ACC Championship game or in the playoffs, they will always be an "also-ran" program.
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They've actually done that 4 times (2006, 2009, 2012, 2014). They even won the 2009 game, beating a Clemson team with several eventual NFLers on it (including C.J. Spiller), but had to vacate it.

Georgia Tech, especially given their academic requirements, has a totally respectable program. They actually have a more recent national title than Georgia (1990), have some tradition, put some guys in the NFL (including recent superstars like Calvin Johnson and Demaryius Thomas), and generally field respectable, sometimes good, teams. Any team playing them should underestimate them at their own peril (ask Georgia about that the last 4 years).

Do they have a great stadium or facilities? No, but I don't think they are an "also-ran" program either. Is a certain component of their success from a gimmicky system? Perhaps, but wouldn't you do the same thing in their situation?
 
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I believe Georgia Tech will be fired up to beat Tennessee. In my day, we played them every year. And it was a rivalry since both teams recruited the same school. I expect a hard fought close game.
 
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Techfan1 said:
I don't get it, we get this often from other teams as well. Is it because of the offensive system and because people don't like the cut blocks? up until 2015 we were tied for the most active consecutive bowl appearances. We won the orange bowl in 2014 with 11 wins. We have been below .500 only once in recent years. We had 9 wins last year with 3 coming against the sec east. We hold a 5-5 record against Clemson and a 5-5 record against FSU since Paul Johnson has been our coach. So why do people say we suck when these facts are more than most other teams can say that we play. Imo it's a misconception based on the fact that we run the offensive system we run, so a lot are just uninformed about us. If there is actually reason why people say this besides, because we cut block and run the system we run (which are not reasons a team would suck) please tell me. Not trying to start anything, this is a serious question.
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You guys just had a three win season.

You have an overall lack of talent when compared to most other P5 schools. Even though you live in Atlanta, one of the most talent-rich places in the nation, you can't recruit.

Because of that lack of talent, you run a gimmick offense that relies heavily on VERY dangerous blocking techniques.

You yourself posted (was it yesterday?) that the idea of hurt linemen is a misnomer, but your coach doesn't correct the misnomer because he wants the idea of GT blowing knees out in the other teams' heads.

(Think about what you just said. Your coach relies on dangerous blocking techniques and the fear of your O-Linemen ending D-Linemen's careers for success. That's major suckage.)

Any way you slice it, you guys suck as far as nearly anyone but a GT fan is concerned. Don't like it? Petition your coach to learn to recruit well enough to run a modern offense. Stop diving at peoples' knees on nearly every play. Ask your coach to do some PR work per the fears and reputation that your OL will end careers for a three yard gain.

Since none of that is likely to change, you may just want to develop a thicker skin.
 
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Techfan1 said:
I don't get it, we get this often from other teams as well. Is it because of the offensive system and because people don't like the cut blocks? up until 2015 we were tied for the most active consecutive bowl appearances. We won the orange bowl in 2014 with 11 wins. We have been below .500 only once in recent years. We had 9 wins last year with 3 coming against the sec east. We hold a 5-5 record against Clemson and a 5-5 record against FSU since Paul Johnson has been our coach. So why do people say we suck when these facts are more than most other teams can say that we play. Imo it's a misconception based on the fact that we run the offensive system we run, so a lot are just uninformed about us. If there is actually reason why people say this besides, because we cut block and run the system we run (which are not reasons a team would suck) please tell me. Not trying to start anything, this is a serious question.
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I didn't say y'all suck. Why do y'all say WE suck?
 
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Tech isn't a bad team at all, actually wish we didn't have you guys scheduled. If we win, we were supposed to win yada yada yada, SEC vs ACC stuff, but if we lose it really hurts us moving forward to get to 9 wins.

I do think we will win this game though, I think our offense is pretty good (although we are replacing a lot of our core guys, QB, RB, and a WR) but still our O-Line is gonna be very nasty this year Drew Richmond, Trey Smith, Robertson... they will be tough to handle. I don't know if our defense can stop Tech, but I don't think that your defense can stop our offense. Just my opinion though. Thinking like 38-24 will be the final or something like that. Good luck in the game though, hoping for no injuries on either side.
 
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Techfan1 said:
I don't get it, we get this often from other teams as well. Is it because of the offensive system and because people don't like the cut blocks? up until 2015 we were tied for the most active consecutive bowl appearances. We won the orange bowl in 2014 with 11 wins. We have been below .500 only once in recent years. We had 9 wins last year with 3 coming against the sec east. We hold a 5-5 record against Clemson and a 5-5 record against FSU since Paul Johnson has been our coach. So why do people say we suck when these facts are more than most other teams can say that we play. Imo it's a misconception based on the fact that we run the offensive system we run, so a lot are just uninformed about us. If there is actually reason why people say this besides, because we cut block and run the system we run (which are not reasons a team would suck) please tell me. Not trying to start anything, this is a serious question.
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OP please see another thread on this forum ACC Coaches Size Up GT. It shows an Athlon's sports article talking about how dangerous your style of play is. The way you are coached to play is simply based on an all out intent to injure DL and Lb. If you don't want to admit that it is dirty please ask our standout DT Shy Tuttle who has received to nasty broken legs in two seasons from illegal dirty cut blocks. Put your win-loss record and bowl record aside, your chosen style of play is not looked upon favorably by anyone. You can and have recruited well enough in the past to play any modern style of offense successfully, but your school and coach chose this injury prone style. If you wish to be looked at more favorably than change your scheme.
 
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I hate this match up for Tennessee. Ga Tech runs the triple option just like Navy only with better athletes. It's a bad match up for the Vols because:
--Vols have too many turnovers. Possessions will be at a premium in this one
--Shoop's defense has shown the propensity for poor reads and lining up out of position
--Blocking schemes vs oft injured defensive linemen
--Vols are not exactly the best tackling team in the SEC
--In Atlanta
--Tech is better than most Vols fans are expecting

I expect the Vols to win but I also expect a close, frustrating, long game where Tech has about a 15 minute edge in time of possession.
 
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Techfan1 said:
I don't get it, we get this often from other teams as well. Is it because of the offensive system and because people don't like the cut blocks? up until 2015 we were tied for the most active consecutive bowl appearances. We won the orange bowl in 2014 with 11 wins. We have been below .500 only once in recent years. We had 9 wins last year with 3 coming against the sec east. We hold a 5-5 record against Clemson and a 5-5 record against FSU since Paul Johnson has been our coach. So why do people say we suck when these facts are more than most other teams can say that we play. Imo it's a misconception based on the fact that we run the offensive system we run, so a lot are just uninformed about us. If there is actually reason why people say this besides, because we cut block and run the system we run (which are not reasons a team would suck) please tell me. Not trying to start anything, this is a serious question.
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I, for one, have always respected GT. They were one of our most feared opponents on the schedule back in the day when they were a member of the SEC. I've posted before about Dad taking my brother and I to the 1956 game at Grant Field in Atlanta where Johnny Majors and company prevailed in a 6 - 0 victory. For over 30 years afterward, the American Sportswriters Association called it the greatest college football game ever played. SEC history runs deep here folks....for this old Vol at least.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Here's the list of teams who suck, according to VolNation, in 2017:

Georgia Tech
Indiana State
Florida
U Mass
Georgia
South Carolina
Alabama (even if they beat us by double digits, someone will say it)
Kentucky
Southern Miss
Missouri
LSU
Vanderbilt

If that looks suspiciously like the list of teams we play this year, well, yep.

So that's by far the primary and #1 reason people on these boards will say Georgia Tech sucks.

The cut blocking, quirky offense, different conference, former SEC member, didn't win a title recently, etc., are all just convenient hooks. There's some legitimate dislike behind some of them (esp. cut blocking), but they're all really just supporting facts.

It's all about you being on our schedule. Two years ago, no one here even thought about Ga Tech enough to say you sucked. In that light, we're a little like the boys on the island in Lord of the Flies: if you have our attention, you have our disdain.

Not necessarily admirable, but true. It's VolNation.

[I personally like Ga Tech, always have. As an engineer, I feel natural affinity for the school. Army Corps of Engineers even share cultural ties with Tech ("Godiva was a lady who through Coventry did ride..."). Good school, good people.]

Go Vols!
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:bammer:
 
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peppervol said:
Not hard to understand at all. I find him witty and entertaining. However, he does not suffer fools lightly and I find that an endearing trait.... Keep 'em comin', butchna...
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Will do, ole Peppa! :salute:
 
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Techfan1 said:
What SEC teams? UGA? Vandy? Miss st? UK? we have a 5-1 record against these teams since 2014. Not to mention we destroyed vandy so i don't think they are on the same level as us.
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You don't suck currently, but even in recent history Tennessee is a much better football program and the SEC has never been too afraid of a GT game.

Since 1970, records vs Georgia Tech:

* Vols are 11-3-1 against Georgia Tech
* Auburn is 15-5
* Georgia is 34-14
* South Carolina is 7-6
* Alabama is 4-2
* LSU is 2-0
* Ole Miss is 3-0
* Florida is 2-1-1 (haven't played since 1981)

To sum up, the upper echelon of the SEC is 78-31-2 against GT since 1970.

Since GT has won less than 30% of these games, and that is with us generously giving you South Carolina in the upper echelon stats, then we can say with some confidence that you have sucked at football in comparison to the teams we consider our main rivals.

Granted you guys are also 5-0 against Kentucky and Vandy in that span, but Tennessee has posted 84 wins against those teams over the same period and often by lopsided margins.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Why do some vols think GT sucks?

Tenn team talent ranking in 2016 according to the 247 composite = #14
Tenn 2017 recruiting class ranking according to the 247 composite = #17

GT team talent ranking in 2016 according to the 247 composite = #50
GT 2017 recruiting class ranking according to the 247 composite = #47

Tenn has played a total of 1249 games in the history of the program.
GT has played a total of 1248 games in the history of their program.

Tenn has won 108 more games than GT. With 12 more losses GT will hit the 500 mark for total number of losses. Tenn is just emerging from the lost decade and still would have to lose 29 games just to get to 400.

Since GT left the SEC in 1964, the rivalry stands at Tenn 16 wins, GT 4 wins, and 1 tie.

Given that recent meetups are akin to the series counts for TN/Vandy or TN/Kentucky and since all vols know Vandy and Kentucky sucks it stands to reason that based on all relevant data GT sucks. Common sense. Intuitively obvious to the most casual observer. This ain't rocket science.

:)
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History has no barring on if they are a good team now or not lol. I could use the same thing for the past 10 years and we would win that battle of more recent history.
 
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bassvol said:
The reason why you suck is because GT is a second tier team.

College football has a group of elite or nuclear powers and GT is not one of them.

This is why you can be happy with an 8 win season. Your goals include winning bowl games instead of winning nattys.

Also- the offense is one dimensional, and the defense is bad. That is a recipe for suckiness.

That said, this game could be very tough. TN is climbing back into that camp of elites (an honor that I miss dearly). Blowout victory against GT helps us get there.
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So by your standard UT sucks because they are currently a second tier team?
 
#98
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GT is what UT is now. Average...

I expect you to play us a very close game and if we don't show up we will lose.
 
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Techfan1 said:
History has no barring on if they are a good team now or not lol. I could use the same thing for the past 10 years and we would win that battle of more recent history.
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I don't remember a 3 win season for us...two years ago is pretty damn "recent". :)
 
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