Why is it now illegal to rag on dooley?

#26
#26
Respect! You reap what you sow!
We would do the same for you and yes it would bother you!

It was never illegal it's just that people that have matured don't like it. You have a freedom of speech to dislike and they have the freedom to dislike what you just posted... circle of life.

It's kinda funny you're complaining about people giving you a hard time about you giving someone a hard time.
 
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Dissing dooley has been a time-honored tradition on these boards for the past year, and rightfully so. But, now that he's been fired, the dooley folks (and others) have turned to attacking anyone who says anything bad about him. I for one personally moved on the second I heard he was fired, and have maybe left 1 negavol comment since. However, you can't be so naive as to think that no one is going to harbor resentment and/or residual animosity after this past season. Some folks literally seem to be getting self-satisfaction out of hammering anyone who says anything negative about dooley since the firing. I'm not going to name names, but I would be really surprised if I'm the only one who has noticed this (i'm sure ill get resistance on that part). Yes, I think dooley was a good guy who tried his best, but obviously that doesn't mean he was a good coach.

Free country. Free Speech, at least for now in our country. Some posters have class. Some don't. If you don't that's OK. We will know when about you when you post.
 
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Maybe for the same reason we don't make fun of people who lose their jobs when companies close and move over seas because someone will do the work better and cheaper there. Or maybe those who no longer work at Hostess make a better example. Did the Hostess workers "deserve" to lose their jobs? Maybe. If they are typical union factory workers they probably spent many years demanding the "right" to do less for more money.

But it would be pretty classless to call them names right now.

Dooley failed. He tried. He didn't fail because he's a bad person deserving of contempt. He failed because he just could not meet the standard. I'm not sure why it is good sport to take personal shots at him now... or even before.
 
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Free country. Free Speech, at least for now in our country. Some posters have class. Some don't. If you don't that's OK. We will know when about you when you post.

Free speech doesn't apply here. This forum belongs to someone who has the absolute right to police speech... but they do allow a wide berth.
 
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We got what we wanted as was said.....move on. We cannot ever be satisfied it seems. We (most of us) dwell on the past instead of embracing the present. We (I) have been frustrated for 5 years. Dooley took the 5 million UT offered him. ALLLLLLLL of us would have done the same thing. In this time of Thanksgiving lets find ourselves being thankful for the new day we have and let him and Fulmer and Hamilton and Majors and Pearl and and and and (it seems to go on forever) be in the past. GO BIG ORANGE! GO BIG OR GO HOME!
 
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Maybe for the same reason we don't make fun of people who lose their jobs when companies close and move over seas because someone will do the work better and cheaper there. Or maybe those who no longer work at Hostess make a better example. Did the Hostess workers "deserve" to lose their jobs? Maybe. If they are typical union factory workers they probably spent many years demanding the "right" to do less for more money.

But it would be pretty classless to call them names right now.

Dooley failed. He tried. He didn't fail because he's a bad person deserving of contempt. He failed because he just could not meet the standard. I'm not sure why it is good sport to take personal shots at him now... or even before.

Well said. He couldn't cut it in a very tough conference with rigorous standards of excellence. 99% of coaches would have had the exact same results. Time to move onward and upward.
 
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How about you move on from a coach whos tenure is over, and quit starting threads bashing him? Pretty easy.
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Because my method doesnt involve telling people what they can and cant do on a discussion board.

People can discuss whatever they want, if it bothers you that much you need to get a life.
 
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I'd rather talk bad about Gruden.. it's a lot more fun.. plus he is the most overrated coach in the history of football. :p
 
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Because my method doesnt involve telling people what they can and cant do on a discussion board.

People can discuss whatever they want, if it bothers you that much you need to get a life.

Last time I checked I'm not the one ragging on a person who is no longer the coach, so nope, I am not the one that needs to get a life.
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Maybe for the same reason we don't make fun of people who lose their jobs when companies close and move over seas because someone will do the work better and cheaper there. Or maybe those who no longer work at Hostess make a better example. Did the Hostess workers "deserve" to lose their jobs? Maybe. If they are typical union factory workers they probably spent many years demanding the "right" to do less for more money.

But it would be pretty classless to call them names right now.

Yeah, but those guys don't get $5M golden parachutes. And, they didn't fail at their jobs. And they most likely didn't compare our Vols to the damn Nazi army.
 
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I simply see no need for anyone to bash a man that's no longer here to screw anything up. It's time to look to the bright future ahead and leave the past in the rear view mirror.

Damn the torpedos full speed ahead.
 
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Why would he call a fake punt for a guy to throw the ball 20 yards when he can barely kick it that far is what don't make sense. That had to be the dumbest play call of his tenure.

It is like wiping before you take a :crap2: it makes absolutely no sense dude.
 
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Last time I checked I'm not the one ragging on a person who is no longer the coach, so nope, I am not the one that needs to get a life.
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Yeah, well, you didnt check anything obviously. Because i havent ever said anything about Dooley or started any thread about him. Period. Quit trying so hard.
 
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Dissing dooley has been a time-honored tradition on these boards for the past year, and rightfully so. But, now that he's been fired, the dooley folks (and others) have turned to attacking anyone who says anything bad about him. I for one personally moved on the second I heard he was fired, and have maybe left 1 negavol comment since. However, you can't be so naive as to think that no one is going to harbor resentment and/or residual animosity after this past season. Some folks literally seem to be getting self-satisfaction out of hammering anyone who says anything negative about dooley since the firing. I'm not going to name names, but I would be really surprised if I'm the only one who has noticed this (i'm sure ill get resistance on that part). Yes, I think dooley was a good guy who tried his best, but obviously that doesn't mean he was a good coach.

You sound like you were a bully when you were younger. Is your last name O'Doyle? and do you think that your family rules?
 
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Dissing dooley has been a time-honored tradition on these boards for the past year, and rightfully so. But, now that he's been fired, the dooley folks (and others) have turned to attacking anyone who says anything bad about him. I for one personally moved on the second I heard he was fired, and have maybe left 1 negavol comment since. However, you can't be so naive as to think that no one is going to harbor resentment and/or residual animosity after this past season. Some folks literally seem to be getting self-satisfaction out of hammering anyone who says anything negative about dooley since the firing. I'm not going to name names, but I would be really surprised if I'm the only one who has noticed this (i'm sure ill get resistance on that part). Yes, I think dooley was a good guy who tried his best, but obviously that doesn't mean he was a good coach.




The first bold I bet I'm one of the ones your talking about. The second bold is a classy way to put it. To me that's how we handle situations like this. I'm not at all disagreeing with fans feelings about this teams performance but the way we were attacking him or anybody personally is what got me. If he had done this intentionally I would be OK with going after him but you know he tried. He just wasn't to good at it.

And for the record, I like all VOL fans. Were all on the same team. I don't care where we all stand in our opinions. If your house or car was on fire I'd run my ass in there and try and get you out.
 
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I haven't thrown any salt on since the firing, but I am curious as to why so many people think he's such a great guy. Is it just because he talks like a hick and started the VFL program?

I really can't think of anything else. I haven't seen or heard any glowing documentations of his character from anyone close to the program. In fact, the few people affiliated with the university both presently and especially in the past who have commented about Dooley make him sound like an ass.
 
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Dissing dooley has been a time-honored tradition on these boards for the past year, and rightfully so. But, now that he's been fired, the dooley folks (and others) have turned to attacking anyone who says anything bad about him. I for one personally moved on the second I heard he was fired, and have maybe left 1 negavol comment since. However, you can't be so naive as to think that no one is going to harbor resentment and/or residual animosity after this past season. Some folks literally seem to be getting self-satisfaction out of hammering anyone who says anything negative about dooley since the firing. I'm not going to name names, but I would be really surprised if I'm the only one who has noticed this (i'm sure ill get resistance on that part). Yes, I think dooley was a good guy who tried his best, but obviously that doesn't mean he was a good coach.[/QUOTE]

That says it all as far as I'm concerned. The guy gave it his best shot. He ran a clean program and loved UT. It didn't work out so UT moved on. Fans should also.....Hopefully better times are ahead!
 
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#46
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He's no longer here so what's the point? Lets look forward to the next few years and not the past ones.
 
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It has always been perfectly legal on this board to rag on Dooley and it still is (for example you are still doing it and not getting arrested or punished). Likewise, it has been and still is equally legal for others who supported Dooley to rag on you and others who think Dooley sucks. Works both ways - just like it should. Or do you think that those of us who supported Dooley should now just shut up because he has been fired and the rest of you can just have a free pass to keep trashing a guy who we feel gave it his best shot and represented this university with class? I still think he did not have enough time and I don't think anybody else would have overall done a better job given what he found when he arrived (perhaps someone would have been luckier and gotten a few more W's but some other things Dooley established for the long term success would perhaps not have happened under most other hires).
 
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You claim that "Dissing Dooley has been a time-honored tradition on these boards for the past year, and rightfully so." As an observation, your assertion may be factually accurate but I profoundly disagree with the underlying attitude. It is exceedingly bad form, just as it was exceedingly bad form to heap contempt upon Fulmer during his declining years, and it was exceedingly bad form to heap contempt on Battle during the last days of his tenure.

I have never understood the hypercritical attitude that you referenced, one that Majors so eloquently dubbed as characteristic of the "Legions of the Miserable." In the statistical sense of the word, I have no idea just how prevalent this attitude is. I would like to think that it is characteristic of only a tiny, but very vocal, fraction of Tennessee fans. Although I am not so vain as to think that our collective contributions to this forum would significantly impact the interest level of prospective coaching candidates, one could erroneously conclude, based on the acrimony expressed in dialogue on this board, that the Big Orange Nation is a pit of vipers that canibalistically consumes its own. Hart hinted at this in the most diplomatic terms when he stated that "we are blessed to have such a passionate fanbase. That passion, of course, assumes many forms."

I could understand the venom that has permeated so much of the recent dialogue here . . . if it was directed at our SEC adversaries. Quite simply, we need to conduct ourselves, particularly in communication with each other, with the class and dignity of the champions we have so often been. After all, as my brother has often said, God only made 108,000 perfect people; the rest he made Gator, 'Bama, Georgia and, perhaps, most contemptible of all, Vanderbilt fans.
 
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Phil was permitted to fade away without any fuss....as I recall....I think....right?
 

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