Why is it taking so long to turn around?

[GreveHaller]

We hired an unproven coach that has done nothing but lose his entire career.

..twice

 

[onevol74]

What the OP did not state is that 2 of his 4 wins were against Vandy. The other 2 were UK and Ole Miss.

 

[I MISS THE BOWL BROS.]

Is Crompton still in the NFL? How about any of the Clausen boys other than Jimmy?

The last 6 yrs of Fulmer what did our recruiting classes rank?

Also besides Eric Berry.... Who was the last 1st rounder we had in the last five years....
Don't say Mayo!

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Big Difference .. He was 9-2 with Toledo, and 9-2 his last season at Michigan State . In 1998 he beat No. 1 ranked Ohio State 28–24 at Ohio Stadium. Dolley has never beat a ranked team much less a number 1 team at home, and Saban he proved he could win. we have yet to see that.

Beating Ohio State who was overrated at number 1 as well as extremely over confident and not really coached well is monumental? He had a two game schedule and did a good job with it in his fourth year. Whoopie. Yes, Saban turned out to be a great coach. But comparing his situation to Dooley is fruitless. Just compare the Big 10 teams Saban played to the SEC teams Dooley faces. Then facepalm.

 

[smokey90]

Starting this year, compare Dooley's first three years with Saban's first three at MSU. Saban was not handed a hamstrung roster in the midst of the best conference when that conference was at it's best ever. Dooley was handed just that.

Oh I see it now, truly Dooley is just like Saban.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Is Crompton still in the NFL? How about any of the Clausen boys other than Jimmy?

The last 6 yrs of Fulmer what did our recruiting classes rank?

Also besides Eric Berry.... Who was the last 1st rounder we had in the last five years....
Don't say Mayo!

Besides what went right, what went right? And don't say what went right. :lol: Fulmer has PLENTY of players in the NFL.

 

[utvolkyle06]

OK, heres is a nice piece of information for you intellectuals to ignore. Ron Zook won 6 SEC games in each of his first two years as UF head coach. The third year he only won 4 SEC games and was fired. The coach who replaced him won 2 national championships in the next 4 years.

Sounds like Zook was a great recruiter

 

[VolFootballlover]

Beating Ohio State who was overrated at number 1 as well as extremely over confident and not really coached well is monumental? He had a two game schedule and did a good job with it in his fourth year. Whoopie. Yes, Saban turned out to be a great coach. But comparing his situation to Dooley is fruitless. Just compare the Big 10 teams Saban played to the SEC teams Dooley faces. Then facepalm.

why not compare Sabans SEC record Vs Dolleys ? Truth hurts ? He took a 6-6 Bama team his 2nd year to 12-0 ... We will even scratch those 12 wins out and still We could count Sec wins on one Limb! Now you Facepalm and try to atleast be truthful p.s. Beating what you called a over rated Ohio State team at number 1with Toledo is much more impressive than pulling out a 4th quarter win to Akron with Tennessee!

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Oh I see it now, truly Dooley is just like Saban.

They may bear some similarities personally, but their current coaching situations are totally different. Do you see that?

 

[smokey90]

They may bear some similarities personally, but their current coaching situations are totally different. Do you see that?

I was being sarcastic. I see absolutely no similarities.

 

[GmanTN]

The last roster rebuild we went thru took us 5 years, it is difficult to rebuild a roster when the surrounding states that are loaded with talent are staying and playing for their in state schools.

Mullen at Miss St is in his 4th year of coaching and recruiting and they are starting to turn the corner somewhat. The Bama's, Tigers and Gators cannot be compared to UT because we do not have the talent in our state to recruit that these schools have in their back yard.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

why not compare Sabans SEC record Vs Dolleys ? Truth hurts ? He took a 6-6 Bama team his 2nd year to 12-0 ... We will even scratch those 12 wins out and still We could count Sec wins on one Limb! Now you Facepalm and try to atleast be truthful

LSU had talent. Who was sitting at the top when Saban got there? Alabama had talent. Who was on top of the west when Saban got there (LSU for they slow and learning impaired)? The team he built and not much else. -- Now, what was the landscape of the league when Dooley got here? How was our talent level? Right. So, have they both taken on the same type of situation?

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

I was being sarcastic. I see absolutely no similarities.

Certainly not in the programs the took over.

 

[VolFootballlover]

LSU had talent. Who was sitting at the top when Saban got there? Alabama had talent. Who was on top of the west when Saban got there? The team he built and not much else. -- Now, what was the landscape of the league when Dooley got here? How was our talent level? Right. So, have they both taken on the same type of situation?

wrong, and wrong again. Alabama was not at the top of the west. They didn't fire Shulla for being the top dog of the west,lol No one, said they have the same Situations. But if you are going to compare Saban and Dolley at least compare the true facts. Dolley isn't in the same league.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

why not compare Sabans SEC record Vs Dolleys ? Truth hurts ? He took a 6-6 Bama team his 2nd year to 12-0 ... We will even scratch those 12 wins out and still We could count Sec wins on one Limb! Now you Facepalm and try to atleast be truthful p.s. Beating what you called a over rated Ohio State team at number 1with Toledo is much more impressive than pulling out a 4th quarter win to Akron with Tennessee!

What year did Toledo beat Ohio State? UT pulled out a 21 point win? With that "thought" process, easy to see why you are such a negavol.

 

[I MISS THE BOWL BROS.]

Besides what went right, what went right? And don't say what went right. :lol: Fulmer has PLENTY of players in the NFL.

Exactly you really don't know.. its ok. Google should assist you in this endeavor! So hurry up and come back this information!
Also look up the yardage Coker ran for in the NFL?

 

[VolFootballlover]

What year did Toledo beat Ohio State? UT pulled out a 21 point win? With that "thought" process, easy to see why you are such a negavol.

Saying Saban took over a Alabam team that was tops in the west tells alot about you to. 26-23 prior to Saban under Shula. p.s. what year will Dolley beat a ranked team ? 2013?

 

[rjd970]

DD is .500 against Kentucky.





...just thought I would throw that out there.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

wrong, and wrong again. Alabama was not at the top of the west. They didn't fire Shulla for being the top dog of the west,lol No one, said they have the same Situations. But if you are going to compare Saban and Dolley at least compare the true facts. Dolley isn't in the same league.

Of course they were not on top of the west. If they have not had the same situations, why have fools continued to run Sabans record out every chance they get? Mainly because they falsely see an easy win. If they foresaw a battle, they would quit fairly quickly. Which is a character trait/flaw of a loser assed negavol.

 

[utvolkyle06]

DD is .500 against Kentucky.





...just thought I would throw that out there.

Too small a sample size.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I don't even blame DD. I just want to know why it takes us 5 years and we're still in the bottom half of the east. I don't get it.

1. Fulmer got fat and lazy literally and figuratively.
2. The UT allowed Fulmer to continue as coach despite the obvious evidence he was letting the program slip.
3. Recruiting suffered massively as a result of # 1 & 2.
4. Kiffin was hired with a contract that gave him too much advantage in terms of what he could do.
5. Kiifin's pet gorilla damaged recruiting further by making phone calls to recruits signed on UT's dime and time.
6. Disaffected players advised some desired recruits to not choose Tennessee.
7. The resultant massive hemorrhage discouraged quality coaches from accepting employment offers.
8. The image of the UT suffered greatly so recruits we would have attracted in the past steered clear. This doesn't even mention the NCAA sanctions mess with both football and basketball programs. Which further screwed our image.
9. For any and all faults the impatient Vols fans exhibit, Dooley was the only coach with the balls to come to the UT. And the fact is, Dooley has done a hell of a job as a program doctor. He is gradually stopping the image hemorrhaging, continued stitching up the recruiting wounds, and putting up with asinine, instant gratification, believers in magic, and Jerry Springerist fans who don't appreciate the job he's done and doing.
10. A program that has suffered a massive and long term decline as ours requires time to rebuild.

Now, I personally believe this is the year he has to show us progress by winning against not one but at least two ranked opponents. And 2013 is the year we must contend. Yet despite that the man deserves respect for what he has done given the utter disaster he had the balls to board a sinking ship and bail water with a tea cup.

 

[VolFootballlover]

Of course they were not on top of the west. If.they have not had the same situations, why have fools continued to run Sabans record out every chance they get? Mainly because they falsely see an easy win. If they foresaw a battle, they would quit fairly quickly. Which is a character trait of a loser assed negavol.

I'm sorry Dolley hired a baseball Coach his first season to coach DB's, I'm sorry he Hired an unproven DC that has yet to put our players in the correct Spots to make plays. I'm sorry he has lost this team many times in games, and I'm sorry Dolley said the loosing to Kentucky would turn out to be a good thing....is that better?

 

[I MISS THE BOWL BROS.]

OK, heres is a nice piece of information for you intellectuals to ignore. Ron Zook won 6 SEC games in each of his first two years as UF head coach. The third year he only won 4 SEC games and was fired. The coach who replaced him won 2 national championships in the next 4 years.

Zook could recruit... But hey so could so could Donnan an Goff... Great recruiters.... Dooley is not even subpar.... Any one can tell Hunter and Patterson come here you will start... Your only competition is Whitelighting... Heck I have 2/3 Ga education and I can mumble that!

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I'm sorry Dolley hired a baseball Coach his first season to coach DB's, I'm sorry he Hired an unproven DC that has yet to put our players in the correct Spots to make plays. I'm sorry he has lost this team many times in games, and I'm sorry Dolley said the loosing to Kentucky would turn out to be a good thing....is that better?

Maybe you can also be sorry that CDD made the hired he did because most quality coaches are still jittery about coming to the UT. You clearly have no idea of the depth of the mess the program was in and how it impacts anyone's decision to come here or stay clear.
Compounding this is the departure or nearly every coach we had last season which implies the UT is still not a desired place of employment. What's left to hire with that kind of mess? I'm sorry there's no herbal tea or pill for that.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Saying Saban took over a Alabam team that was tops in the west tells alot about you to. 26-23 prior to Saban under Shula. p.s. what year will Dolley beat a ranked team ? 2013?

Did not say Saban took over an Alabama team that was tops on the west. Asked who was on top in the west when Saban got tnere. The answer is of course LSU. 26-23 under Shula meant all they needed was a few playmakers and they were ready to go. Enter Ingram and Jones and Richardson et al. UT was not nearly as sound when Dooley got here. We needed players. And playmakers. We really needed everything.