Why the dive in Obama's approval rating?

#52
#52
I never said I wanted to give up my freedom to the govt. I said, 1we needed to help out those in our country, before we help out those in others. Nothing wrong with that. Maybe, I want better schools. 2Or better armour for our military.

1.) That is not the role of government. The government does not deem who is needy and who is not and then take our money for the program of choice.

That is the failure of the churches and the local community.

2.) That is an actual requirement of hte government.
 
#53
#53
I never said I wanted to give up my freedom to the govt. I said, we needed to help out those in our country, before we help out those in others. Nothing wrong with that. Maybe, I want better schools. Or better armour for our military.

How do you expect to attain these goals with a party who wants to cater to the NEA and never allow parents a choice in schools. These Libs also want to limit the size, power and technical advancement of our military.
 
#55
#55
They haven't gotten the Bush smell out of the White House yet. It'll go up as soon as the steam cleaning company is finished.

Not sure how he ever got an 80% approval rating. I didn't receive phone call.
 
#56
#56
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How do you expect to attain these goals with a party who wants to cater to the NEA and never allow parents a choice in schools. These Libs also want to limit the size, power and technical advancement of our military.

I think the democrats got a better rating from a non-partisan organization than the republicans for military aid. As for the school vouchers, I actually like the idea of having a choice in which to go to school.
 
#57
#57
Tax cuts = good. I've said that ever since I've got on here. But, I think there should be equal taxation, and tax cuts, not one extreme gets the biggest breaks, while another gets hit with more taxes.

10% across the board tax cut. Forgive my simplistic examples, they are for illustration only.

Person A makes 100,000/year and just for the sake of this example, his tax rate is 30%. So his tax burden is 30,000/year. cut that rate to 27% and his tax burden is is now 27k, a net tax cut of $3000.

Person B makes 30,000, year and his tax rate is 15%, or 4500/year, a 10% rate cut to 13.5% and his burden is 4050, a tax cut of $450.

the left would, and does, spin this as a "tax cut for the rich" even though both A and B received a 10% reduction in their tax rate.
 
#59
#59
1.) That is not the role of government. The government does not deem who is needy and who is not and then take our money for the program of choice.

That is the failure of the churches and the local community.

2.) That is an actual requirement of hte government.

1) Well, what do you suggest we do? If the government doesn't help them out, who would? There's no money to be made in helping out those who are homeless and needy. The only private organizations that actually reach out and help those in need are churches, and church affiliated non-profit organizations, and those depend on how much money people give to the church.

2) That it is. But still, you hear stories all the time on the news about insufficient equipment to fight the terrorists with.
 
#60
#60
I think the democrats got a better rating from a non-partisan organization than the republicans for military aid. As for the school vouchers, I actually like the idea of having a choice in which to go to school.

There is no way that a reputable organization would rate the Dems better on the military.
 
#62
#62
I think the democrats got a better rating from a non-partisan organization than the republicans for military aid. As for the school vouchers, I actually like the idea of having a choice in which to go to school.

I think it will force public schools to put out a better product. Maybe they will see watering down the curriculum so that more students succeed actually does a disservice to all students.
 
#63
#63
10% across the board tax cut. Forgive my simplistic examples, they are for illustration only.

Person A makes 100,000/year and just for the sake of this example, his tax rate is 30%. So his tax burden is 30,000/year. cut that rate to 27% and his tax burden is is now 27k, a net tax cut of $3000.

Person B makes 30,000, year and his tax rate is 15%, or 4500/year, a 10% rate cut to 13.5% and his burden is 4050, a tax cut of $450.

the left would, and does, spin this as a "tax cut for the rich" even though both A and B received a 10% reduction in their tax rate.

That they would. I won't disagree with you on that.
 
#64
#64
I think it will force public schools to put out a better product. Maybe they will see watering down the curriculum so that more students succeed actually does a disservice to all students.

That you would be correct on. I think the competition between private and public schools would benefit this country's educational system a great deal. A sub once told my class a few years that her daughter went to Webb School of Knoxville, and freshman English at UT was pretty easy for her. She also said that the kids that went to public schools were behind those that went to privates.
 
#65
#65
Right............................. you believe the founders fought for the freedom to empower the government to take money from citizens to spend on what the government deems necessary for the public???????

please tell me you were intending to do the lumberg "right"
 
#66
#66
That they would. I won't disagree with you on that.

Obama wants to take an additional 14 million Americans off the roles of those who have a tax liability, forcing a minority of wage earners to pay the bill for everybody.

add to that the 12 to 20 million illegal immigrants already here and equal numbers waiting to come over after an amnesty bill is signed and you have an even deeper financial disaster waiting to happen.
 
#68
#68
add to that the 12 to 20 million illegal immigrants already here and equal numbers waiting to come over after an amnesty bill is signed and you have an even deeper financial disaster waiting to happen.

I don't think it's possible to deport 12-20 million people. I don't think that they should be given amnesty either. More guards at the border would help, but something's gotta be done.

But yes, it very well could be a financial disaster. I will agree with you on that point.
 
#70
#70
I don't think it's possible to deport 12-20 million people. I don't think that they should be given amnesty either. More guards at the border would help, but something's gotta be done.

But yes, it very well could be a financial disaster. I will agree with you on that point.

you're awfully agreeable today. did you see some action last night and still in "afterglow"?
 
#75
#75
im waiting on Obama to call for a constitutional convention, so he can rewrite the constiution, give himself ulitmate power and battle the klingons for interstellar domination
 

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