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AshG said:
Those uneducated workers did a damn fine job, too. And they were rewarded well for it. We need to bring that type of craftsmanship back to mainstream.

We really screwed over our education system and priorities trying to beat the Ruskies to the moon.
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I would not protest apprecticeships for tradesman, but getting a libral arts degree with a insurmountable college debt forgiveness policy is a hard no from me. As well as paying fast food workers beyond their VALUE.

Where is the outrage of the anti-tarrif folk who complain about the price of Chinese goods, yet have no problem paying for $10 burgers?
 
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AshG said:
Yeah. Poor choice of words on my behalf. I'll go back and fix it later.

The point being, we're pushing University education for fields that really don't need more than CC. But that's my wheelhouse and I could go on for way too long about it.
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You would be surprised at how many people with at least 2 years of college are performing some of our most critical manufacturing functions
 
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Orangeburst said:
I would not protest apprecticeships for tradesman, but getting a libral arts degree with a insurmountable college debt forgiveness policy is a hard no from me. As well as paying fast food workers beyond their VALUE.
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My PhD is in an education field, and I'm a college professor. My dissertation work included significant study of CC/JC vs University. And for most fields, University isn't needed. We need to get the idea that your cabinetmaker or hairdresser need a bachelor's in finance out of our heads.
 
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Orangeburst said:
I would not protest apprecticeships for tradesman, but getting a libral arts degree with a insurmountable college debt forgiveness policy is a hard no from me. As well as paying fast food workers beyond their VALUE.

Where is the outrage of the anti-tarrif folk who complain about the price of Chinese goods, yet have no problem paying for $10 burgers?
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Are you sure you have an accurate knowledge of the value of fast food workers?
 
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AshG said:
Trickle down didn't work. If it had, then worker compensation would have kept track with CEO compensation growth. The growing delta between compensation at the top and bottom ofa company should be more concerning than people treat it as.
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If you have not figured it out yet....all economics are trickle down. I agree about these overpaid Boards, hence we are a Wall St nation, but als pick up investment ops if one is capable.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Lag effect of policy. Fed deficts were a result of military spending and monetary policy to control inflation was paramount. The ecomomy boomed under Reagan with a 3.6% GDP average
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Reagan's economy was financed with debt, which to date has not been paid. We are still making interest payments on the principal.
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AshG said:
My PhD is in an education field, and I'm a college professor. My dissertation work included significant study of CC/JC vs University. And for most fields, University isn't needed. We need to get the idea that your cabinetmaker or hairdresser need a bachelor's in finance out of our heads.
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According to some of our posters, you have no concept of the real world...you can only teach. And of course, you're actively indoctrinating them to a progressive mindset
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Are you sure you have an accurate knowledge of the value of fast food workers?
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No. But I started my position in 1991 making $15K a year with sales bonus potential in a Fortune 150 company with advancement opportunity. Still in the field today. Only so many management positions at the local fry club.
 
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Orangeburst said:
No. But I started my position in 1991 making $15K a year with sales bonus potential in a Fortune 150 company with advancement opportunity. Still in the field today. Only so many management positions at the local fry club.
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Good for you and your top shelf ambition and perseverance!
 
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Vol Main said:
Reagan's economy was financed with debt, which to date has not been paid. We are still making interest payments on the principal.
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Sorry, but that "IF" graph is not reality. Reagan increased defense spending to crush the SU during a cold war and worked, just like FDR's spike.
I agree, we are in a monetary fueled economy for spits and spurts over the decades. Get ready for overload.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Good for you and your top shelf ambition and perseverance!
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Just the way it worked back then and even have a loathsome PS degree. You start out with an entry position in a company that even has advancement ops, and hope to advance. Kids want the world straight outta college.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Just the way it worked back then and even have a loathsome PS degree. You start out with an entry position in a company that even has advancement ops, and hope to advance. Kids want the world straight outta college.
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But it only has to start after 9 AM, they can't be bothered before then.
 
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VolStrom said:
But it only has to start after 9 AM, they can't be bothered before then.
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30 minute S&S and 30 minute commute and to class time, can we call it 10AM?
Ah hell..just skip class.
Edit; Read wrong lol
 
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Orangeburst said:
Just the way it worked back then and even have a loathsome PS degree. You start out with an entry position in a company that even has advancement ops, and hope to advance. Kids want the world straight outta college.
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You're the kind of employee companies need for long term growth and stability
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
You're the kind of employee companies need for long term growth and stability
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Not really. After 12 years at that company and their demands, I bounced and have few times. I know my trade very well and consider myself a consultant in part, which does not always match short term monetary company expectations. Everything has become a commodity because there is little differentiation, albeit with the same BOM content, much which is driven by China.

And incidentally, when the Labor Secretary for Clinton came and gathered all the employees at our circa 1995 (iirc) meeting telling us how great NAFTA was to us. Then a couple of years later got an outside sales territory and watched indusrty like Prestolite leave, basically overnight, And today that Fortune 150 company makes most of their product in China.

Too many bean counters and Boards have no clue on cost of ownership and I think it applies to our national economic policy as well.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Not really. After 12 years at that company and their demands, I bounced and have few times. I know my trade very well and consider myself a consultant in part, which does not always match short term monetary company expectations. Everything has become a commodity because there is little differentiation, albeit with the same BOM content, much which is driven by China.

And incidentally, when the Labor Secretary for Clinton came and gathered all the employees at our circa 1995 (iirc) meeting telling us how great NAFTA was to us. Then a couple of years later got an outside sales territory and watched indusrty like Prestolite leave, basically overnight, And today that Fortune 150 company makes most of their product in China.

Too many bean counters and Boards have no clue on cost of ownership and I think it applies to our national economic policy as well.
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Maybe not your specific function and industry
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
According to some of our posters, you have no concept of the real world...you can only teach. And of course, you're actively indoctrinating them to a progressive mindset
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Of course. Never mind my upbringing, work experience, significant time on the family farm, etc. It's why I can't stand identity politics. Just part of life.
 
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AshG said:
My PhD is in an education field, and I'm a college professor. My dissertation work included significant study of CC/JC vs University. And for most fields, University isn't needed. We need to get the idea that your cabinetmaker or hairdresser need a bachelor's in finance out of our heads.
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Volprof.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
What are you talking about? What did Carter do that mandated an exponential increase in military spending during a decade in which we were not at war?
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You are outta league on this one and miss the sentiment and reality of the Cold War era.
Thought you despised Russia.
 
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Orangeburst said:
You are outta league on this one and miss the sentiment and reality of the Cold War era.
Thought you despised Russia.
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My question in response to that extremely vague post is valid. What did Carter do which mandated such a massive spending increase in the Defense Department?
 
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