Why Trump Covers for Russian Cyber Attacks

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BowlBrother85 said:
My question in response to that extremely vague post is valid. What did Carter do which mandated such a massive spending increase in the Defense Department?
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Cannot speak for him, but Carter was an embarassement to our national standing at the time. Weak on Russian aggression and the failed Iranian hostage issue, with stagflation on the home front.
For the Afghan invasion, Carter boycotted the Olympics. Reagan's first day in office, the Iranian hostages are freed.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Cannot speak for him, but Carter was an embarassement to our national standing at the time. Weak on Russian aggression and the failed Iranian hostage issue, with stagflation on the home front.
For the Afghan invasion, Carter boycotted the Olympics. Reagan's first day in office, the Iranian hostages are freed.
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That doesn't really address the question.... what did Carter do which mandated such a build up during a time when we were not at war? And how Republicans have reversed course from Reagan era to the current "America first" doctrine is laughable.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That doesn't really address the question.... what did Carter do which mandated such a build up during a time when we were not at war? And how Republicans have reversed course from Reagan era to the current "America first" doctrine is laughable.
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We were at war, for decades. Cold and Hot by proxy and not.
 
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AshG said:
Trickle down didn't work. If it had, then worker compensation would have kept track with CEO compensation growth. The growing delta between compensation at the top and bottom ofa company should be more concerning than people treat it as.
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It seems more like most workers are paid according to how the company does, but the top executives are paid according to how well they can gild the lily and make a mediocre company appeal to investors. Perhaps the biggest screw up was failing to recognize that tying executive compensation to stock prices would lead to decisions promoting short term profits and screw long term corporate development.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
My question in response to that extremely vague post is valid. What did Carter do which mandated such a massive spending increase in the Defense Department?
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I'm trying not to respond to nonsensically vague responses to my posts, but I often do anyway.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Cannot speak for him, but Carter was an embarassement to our national standing at the time. Weak on Russian aggression and the failed Iranian hostage issue, with stagflation on the home front.
For the Afghan invasion, Carter boycotted the Olympics. Reagan's first day in office, the Iranian hostages are freed.
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Carter made an unforgivable mistake by ignoring requests by his own diplomats to be withdrawn, because of an assurance from the Ayatollah that the Embassy would be protected. Even before the 1980 election, Reagan's people negotiated with Iran and agreed to supply them with weapons if the hostages were released, which they did even though it was illegal and a violation of standing policy against rewarding hostage taking.
 
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Vol Main said:
Carter made an unforgivable mistake by ignoring requests by his own diplomats to be withdrawn, because of an assurance from the Ayatollah that the Embassy would be protected. Even before the 1980 election, Reagan's people negotiated with Iran and agreed to supply them with weapons if the hostages were released, which they did even though it was illegal and a violation of policy to not reward hostage taking.
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Get outta here, You telling everyone that pre-election Reagan guaranteed weapons prior to his election? This is not Iran Contra.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Sure thing cowboy. Post a link.
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OK. Here is one saying that the negotiation by the Reagan campaign was to delay release of the hostages until after the election. So, what did they offer Iran? There are numerous versions of this story, and mine might seem like stretching, but there is little doubt that the Reagan Campaign tried to delay the release until after the election. So, what did they offer?
Ronald Reagan’s “October Surprise” Plot Was Real After All

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...es-deal/20ded209-9881-44b9-b245-2e0b916ffecf/

"The charge has been raised, first in the Middle Eastern and European press and now in the US, that in 1980 while Jimmy Carter was frantically negotiating for an early release of American hostages in Iran, members of the Ronald Reagan campaign staff made the Ayatollah Khomeini an offer he couldn't refuse—badly needed US arms and spare parts for his war with Iraq if he kept the US Embassy hostages in Tehran until after election day."
Did Iran Delay Hostages Release To Ensure Reagan's Election? – 1987 October - WRMEA

"But the key to understanding the October Surprise case was that it appeared to be a prequel to the Iran-Contra scandal, part of the same storyline beginning with the 1980 crisis over 52 American hostages held in Iran, continuing through their release immediately after Ronald Reagan’s inauguration on Jan. 20, 1981, then followed by mysterious U.S. government approval of secret arms shipments to Iran via Israel in 1981, and ultimately morphing into the Iran-Contra Affair of more arms-for-hostage deals with Iran until that scandal exploded in 1986. [For more on the scandal and cover-up, see Robert Parry’s America’s Stolen Narrative.]"
Reagan-Bush Ties to Iran-Hostage Crisis

About William Casey, Reagan's campaign manager and DCIA,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...ey-dies/da60a0b4-79cf-43d3-b370-848c2439e833/
 
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Vol Main said:
OK. Here is one saying that the negotiation by the Reagan campaign was to delay release of the hostages until after the election. So, what did they offer Iran? There are numerous versions of this story, and mine might seem like stretching, but there is little doubt that the Reagan Campaign tried to delay the release until after the election. So, what did they offer?
Ronald Reagan’s “October Surprise” Plot Was Real After All

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...es-deal/20ded209-9881-44b9-b245-2e0b916ffecf/

"The charge has been raised, first in the Middle Eastern and European press and now in the US, that in 1980 while Jimmy Carter was frantically negotiating for an early release of American hostages in Iran, members of the Ronald Reagan campaign staff made the Ayatollah Khomeini an offer he couldn't refuse—badly needed US arms and spare parts for his war with Iraq if he kept the US Embassy hostages in Tehran until after election day."
Did Iran Delay Hostages Release To Ensure Reagan's Election? – 1987 October - WRMEA

"But the key to understanding the October Surprise case was that it appeared to be a prequel to the Iran-Contra scandal, part of the same storyline beginning with the 1980 crisis over 52 American hostages held in Iran, continuing through their release immediately after Ronald Reagan’s inauguration on Jan. 20, 1981, then followed by mysterious U.S. government approval of secret arms shipments to Iran via Israel in 1981, and ultimately morphing into the Iran-Contra Affair of more arms-for-hostage deals with Iran until that scandal exploded in 1986. [For more on the scandal and cover-up, see Robert Parry’s America’s Stolen Narrative.]"
Reagan-Bush Ties to Iran-Hostage Crisis

About William Casey, Reagan's campaign manager and DCIA,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...ey-dies/da60a0b4-79cf-43d3-b370-848c2439e833/
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You are buying all that and claim we are nuts for believing there was election fraud?
 
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Orangeburst said:
Dude...you denying the Cold War and decades of hot and cold containment?
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LOL. There were signs of the Soviet Union's imminent collapse well before their invasion of Afghanistan. Reagan's excessive defense spending in the 80's wasn't justified by the Cold War. You seem ignorant.
 
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