Will Dylan Sampson break the all-time, single-season rushing record?

[pimo1]

Barry Sanders had over 3200 all purpose yards his last year. It’s laughable to even mention Jeanty’s name in the same breath as Sanders.

Well looking at the fact Jeanty is on pace to be in a conversation with only him Barry and Marcus Allen. I ma not comparing him to Barry no sane person would I am saying he is on pace to do something only that guy and one other legend has. The fact its happening is impressive because NO ONE ELSE has been able to come close PERIOD. Barrys record will never be touched because he did it in 11 games. the fact he is in the zip code is crazy though.

Everyone says its nothing but if its so easy and does not matter how has no one else ever done it? Plenty of great RB's have played against way worse teams than Boise States schedule. Also, he is not even playing full games. He averages 21 carries a game that's the nutty part its not him grinding out 40 carries a game at 4-5 yards a carry he is averaging 10.

 

[pimo1]

The point is. Lets celebrate the awesome season Dylan is having and not go overboard. He is likely to break the career TD record for UT this year. He will almost certainly break the single-season record. But he is not in contention for the Heisman for many reasons out of his control.

The Heisman is a very weird award kind of like MVP in the NBA. Its extremely hard for a non QB to win it. The guy has to play for a big name team and have some rizz. Honestly if the award was just about stats and talent it would be down to 3 guys. Jeanty, Hunter and Bryson Daily.

Hunter won't win because he plays at Colorado and isn't a QB or RB.

Daily won't win because he plays at Army and only averages like 90 passing yards a game. His game is not exciting. That being said Army could end up anywhere from 10-2 to 12-0 and wreck everyone's plans.

Jeanty has a chance because he has 2 big things on his side. Boise has some mindshare real estate as a Cinderella contender for a while now and that blue field. Plus he is a RB putting up video game numbers. If he shows out against UNLV the hype will take off. Outside of a weird upset Boise State will be 12-1 and ranked in the top10 come bowl time. UNLVx2 is the only real speedbump they have left. Lets get the elephant slain right now. Boise State has not played a hard schedule and their schedule does not get any harder going forward. Does not matter because the stats are so gaudy.

Would I trade Sampson for him.. heck no. But right now Jeanty is the best RB in the nation and its not close. Sampson is probably top 5.

haters can skip to the 2 minute mark for Oregon.. he made those guys look like fools. oh and he's a threat catching the ball also.

 

[Sydney5000]

I thought Reggie had the record. His leaps over the top for touchdowns were legendary.
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Probably my all time favorite Vol , growing up in Knoxville about the same time he was coming through Central High School . I think he was a year or two ahead of me . I fully believe if he had stayed out of trouble and on the '89 team , that Johnny Majors would have had a national championship here .

 

[VolPack22]

Well looking at the fact Jeanty is on pace to be in a conversation with only him Barry and Marcus Allen. I ma not comparing him to Barry no sane person would I am saying he is on pace to do something only that guy and one other legend has. The fact its happening is impressive because NO ONE ELSE has been able to come close PERIOD. Barrys record will never be touched because he did it in 11 games. the fact he is in the zip code is crazy though.

Everyone says its nothing but if its so easy and does not matter how has no one else ever done it? Plenty of great RB's have played against way worse teams than Boise States schedule. Also, he is not even playing full games. He averages 21 carries a game that's the nutty part its not him grinding out 40 carries a game at 4-5 yards a carry he is averaging 10.

You can go ahead and stop with that 21 carries stuff. He just needed 31 carries vs almighty Hawaii. He would be lucky to sniff 100 yards vs our rush defense.

 

[hndog609]

You can go ahead and stop with that 21 carries stuff. He just needed 31 carries vs almighty Hawaii. He would be lucky to sniff 100 yards vs our rush defense.

I have no idea why you are trying to "unhappen" what Jeanty is doing. Is it just "He's not my guy so I have to dis him."? You just waive off THAT level of production with nothing more than saying competition? What about others that have been thoroughly vetted in a similar context? How does this read for you:

34 carries per game/2158yds/5.8ypc/22tds
Nevada, Northwestern, AR St, Navy, Hawaii, Tulsa, Rice, San Jose St, Fresno St, UTEP, TX El Paso, SMU & So Miss.

Just another scrub dude piling up junk on air, right? Yeah...that was LaDainian Tomlinson in '2000. Jeanty is ahead of all those numbers at this point.

Where he finishes I've no idea but to look at Jeanty and just dismiss literally historic levels of production (to this point anyway) is just bewildering.

 

[BigALWiLson]

I have no idea why you are trying to "unhappen" what Jeanty is doing. Is it just "He's not my guy so I have to dis him."? You just waive off THAT level of production with nothing more than saying competition? What about others that have been thoroughly vetted in a similar context? How does this read for you:

34 carries per game/2158yds/5.8ypc/22tds
Nevada, Northwestern, AR St, Navy, Hawaii, Tulsa, Rice, San Jose St, Fresno St, UTEP, TX El Paso, SMU & So Miss.

Just another scrub dude piling up junk on air, right? Yeah...that was LaDainian Tomlinson in '2000. Jeanty is ahead of all those numbers at this point.

Where he finishes I've no idea but to look at Jeanty and just dismiss literally historic levels of production (to this point anyway) is just bewildering.

While I see your point and I think he is a good back I highly doubt he has Tomlinson's career production at the next level. He will be drafted high, D.Samp will ball at the next level because they will throw him the ball in space 10 times a game. Both really good backs. However Barry might be the best ever that valued his health and left the game. He made his mark. Records are made to be broken though

 

[VolPack22]

I have no idea why you are trying to "unhappen" what Jeanty is doing. Is it just "He's not my guy so I have to dis him."? You just waive off THAT level of production with nothing more than saying competition? What about others that have been thoroughly vetted in a similar context? How does this read for you:

34 carries per game/2158yds/5.8ypc/22tds
Nevada, Northwestern, AR St, Navy, Hawaii, Tulsa, Rice, San Jose St, Fresno St, UTEP, TX El Paso, SMU & So Miss.

Just another scrub dude piling up junk on air, right? Yeah...that was LaDainian Tomlinson in '2000. Jeanty is ahead of all those numbers at this point.

Where he finishes I've no idea but to look at Jeanty and just dismiss literally historic levels of production (to this point anyway) is just bewildering.

It’s not historic. He isn’t breaking Barry Sanders’ record and he damn isn’t sure scoring 40 rushing touchdowns like Sanders. If he’s all that then we will see him lead his team to the CFP and win a playoff game.

 

[Vol8188]

I hope he doesn’t only because I hope we are able to limit his carries and have him fresh for Georgia and the playoffs

 

[901 Orange]

Just like Jim Carey. Dylan Sampson has a chance!!

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In the next 5 games he might be right at that record. He is coming off a bye so he should be fresher

 

[hndog609]

While I see your point and I think he is a good back I highly doubt he has Tomlinson's career production at the next level. He will be drafted high, D.Samp will ball at the next level because they will throw him the ball in space 10 times a game. Both really good backs. However Barry might be the best ever that valued his health and left the game. He made his mark. Records are made to be broken though

Oh make no mistake I'm making no extrapolations of what Jeanty may or may not do at the next level. I was merely pointing out the flaws in dismissing out of hand that kind of production with just a "well, you know, that's just the competition man" take. Imagine taking that view LD back in 2000 and having to look back on it now with the benefit of hindsight.

As an aside Sanders was simply magical.

 

[hndog609]

It’s not historic. He isn’t breaking Barry Sanders’ record and he damn isn’t sure scoring 40 rushing touchdowns like Sanders. If he’s all that then we will see him lead his team to the CFP and win a playoff game.

So just what does the term "historic" mean to you? Are you actually positing that literally the only way for a running back to have a historically significant season is to beat Sanders Sr season? Just for the sake ascertaining how you mind works if Jeanty finishes the regular season (not even talking bowl/playoff) with 2500yds and 34 rushing tds you're not going to consider that a "historic" season as literally no one other than Sanders has pulled that trick off? I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone else giving that definition much favor.

 

[pimo1]

You can go ahead and stop with that 21 carries stuff. He just needed 31 carries vs almighty Hawaii. He would be lucky to sniff 100 yards vs our rush defense.

over the season he has averages 21 carries a game.. you pick the singular game where he had a lot? He has rush for more than 25 carries exactly twice once for 31 and once for 26.. in fact here ya go



Last time I checked in math class 126/6=21 but I'll defer to your advanced math skills sir. The lovely thing about College football the associated awards and the NFL scouts they don't really deal with hypotheticals they look at what actually happened. he Stepped on the field with all the opponents on his schedule and decimated them. and before you try to say he got shut out by portland state he had 0 carries in the second half because he was done taking candy from babies. Since you like Hypotheticals what are his numbers looking like if he played in the second half of of the 2 games he sat out? Probably a lot like the Georgia Southern game where he ran for 6 td's? So he'd be at like 1500 yards and 20 td's at the halfway point well on pace for 3000 yards. But his coaches are not animals and know they only want to run him for what they need so they can save him for later in the season and he can save himself for the NFL.

 

[VolPack22]

over the season he has averages 21 carries a game.. you pick the singular game where he had a lot? He has rush for more than 25 carries exactly twice once for 31 and once for 26.. in fact here ya go
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Last time I checked in math class 126/6=21 but I'll defer to your advanced math skills sir. The lovely thing about College football the associated awards and the NFL scouts they don't really deal with hypotheticals they look at what actually happened. he Stepped on the field with all the opponents on his schedule and decimated them. and before you try to say he got shut out by portland state he had 0 carries in the second half because he was done taking candy from babies. Since you like Hypotheticals what are his numbers looking like if he played in the second half of of the 2 games he sat out? Probably a lot like the Georgia Southern game where he ran for 6 td's? So he'd be at like 1500 yards and 20 td's at the halfway point well on pace for 3000 yards. But his coaches are not animals and know they only want to run him for what they need so they can save him for later in the season and he can save himself for the NFL.

Lord help us if Dylan Sampson needed 31 carries against elite powerhouse and blue blood Hawaii

 

[VolPack22]

So just what does the term "historic" mean to you? Are you actually positing that literally the only way for a running back to have a historically significant season is to beat Sanders Sr season? Just for the sake ascertaining how you mind works if Jeanty finishes the regular season (not even talking bowl/playoff) with 2500yds and 34 rushing tds you're not going to consider that a "historic" season as literally no one other than Sanders has pulled that trick off? I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone else giving that definition much favor.

Historic seasons are not that hard to explain. If you played a Power 4/5 schedule and put up ridiculously insane numbers then that’s a historic season. A few examples:

Joe Burrow passing TD
Barry Sanders rushing yards and TD
Michael Crabtree receiving yards
Devonta Smith receiving TD against an All-SEC schedule during COVID

 

[pimo1]

Historic seasons are not that hard to explain. If you played a Power 4/5 schedule and put up ridiculously insane numbers then that’s a historic season. A few examples:

Joe Burrow passing TD
Barry Sanders rushing yards and TD
Michael Crabtree receiving yards
Devonta Smith receiving TD against an All-SEC schedule during COVID

historic is you put up insane numbers... the record books don't care about your conference or schedule. And, if you rush for over 2000 yards, neither does the NFL.

 

[hndog609]

Historic seasons are not that hard to explain. If you played a Power 4/5 schedule and put up ridiculously insane numbers then that’s a historic season. A few examples:

Joe Burrow passing TD
Barry Sanders rushing yards and TD
Michael Crabtree receiving yards
Devonta Smith receiving TD against an All-SEC schedule during COVID

So there's no confusion let's be clear:

The 2nd greatest rushing regular season in the history of major college football would not, in fact, be a historically great season because...reasons.

Got it.

 

[VolPack22]

historic is you put up insane numbers... the record books don't care about your conference or schedule. And, if you rush for over 2000 yards, neither does the NFL.

That translated well for Melvin Gordon didn’t it? He only has one 1,000 yard season in his NFL career. Just because you have success in college doesn’t mean you will be a can’t miss player in the NFL. Arian Foster was undrafted and he was more successful than Gordon.

 

[VolPack22]

So there's no confusion let's be clear:

The 2nd greatest rushing regular season in the history of major college football would not, in fact, be a historically great season because...reasons.

Got it.

If you want to consider Group of 5 football major college football then by all means you do you lol

 

[pimo1]

Lord help us if Dylan Sampson needed 31 carries against elite powerhouse and blue blood Hawaii

It's called math sir. Boise State averages 38 rushing attempts a game. Jeanty Averages 21 normally but in a game where other RB's are hurt he has to pick up that slack. BTW guess who else averages 21 carries a game? Wouldn't trade him for anyone in the country but Dylan Sampson is no Ashton Jeanty.. you have obviously not watched tape of this guy. Imagine if Emmitt Smith ran a 4.4 instead of a 4.5 and had a tad more wiggle. That's who this guy is at the collegiate level.

 

[VolPack22]

It's called math sir. Boise State averages 38 rushing attempts a game. Jeanty Averages 21 normally but in a game where other RB's are hurt he has to pick up that slack. BTW guess who else averages 21 carries a game? Wouldn't trade him for anyone in the country but Dylan Sampson is no Ashton Jeanty.. you have obviously not watched tape of this guy. Imagine if Emmitt Smith ran a 4.4 instead of a 4.5 and had a tad more wiggle. That's who this guy is at the collegiate level.

Dylan Sampson plays in the SEC. Jeanty doesn’t play anywhere near that competition outside of 1 singular game. Sampsons carries didn’t tick up until he started playing SEC teams. If we got to play the Little Sisters of the Poor every week Sampson would have 1200 yards too.

 

[hndog609]

If you want to consider Group of 5 football major college football then by all means you do you lol

The NCAA does soooo

 

[pimo1]

If you want to consider Group of 5 football major college football then by all means you do you lol

Record books are record books and the playoffs consider them that so why wouldn't you? I bet you all these P4 schools taking losses to all these G5 school think they are major.Ask Oregon is Boise State is Major and if Jeanty is the real deal.

Dylan Sampson had an opportunity to snack on 2 Cupcakes this season.. how did that go? 25 carries for 225 and 7 td's.. Freaking awesome huh? Thats 9 yards a carry. oh wait Jeanty did 20 for 267 and 6 in one game 13 a carry. Arguably his worst game this whole year was Hawaii when he was forced to take 31 carries.. oh wait 207 yard a TD and another receiving TD. Oh wait what about the game he didn't score a TD in? 11 for 127 0 td's in a 56-14 win, he didn't play in the second half because child abuse is frowned upon in Idaho.

 

[pimo1]

The NCAA does soooo

These people just want to redefine the meanings of words and phrases that fit their reality? 'That cup is empty because I say its empty anything less than 12 ounces in a beer can is empty' Like my VolPack impersonation?

All jokes aside bro you do you @VolPack22 you are certainly deserving to have your own opinion and I actually do respect it. It's just so fun to troll. I mean have an intellectual discourse with you.

 

[hndog609]

These people just want to redefine the meanings of words and phrases that fit their reality? 'That cup is empty because I say its empty anything less than 12 ounces in a beer can is empty' Like my VolPack impersonation?

All jokes aside bro you do you @VolPack22 you are certainly deserving to have your own opinion and I actually do respect it. It's just so fun to troll. I mean have an intellectual discourse with you.

Dude's in bunker position. Only thing I can think of is he's entered that weird fandom mentality where the only POV of making positive observations about X player can only mean diminishing the accomplishments of Y player. (In this case apparently that's Sampson) It's nonsensical of course but it happens.

 

[TC 83]

The point is. Lets celebrate the awesome season Dylan is having and not go overboard. He is likely to break the career TD record for UT this year. He will almost certainly break the single-season record. But he is not in contention for the Heisman for many reasons out of his control.

The Heisman is a very weird award kind of like MVP in the NBA. Its extremely hard for a non QB to win it. The guy has to play for a big name team and have some rizz. Honestly if the award was just about stats and talent it would be down to 3 guys. Jeanty, Hunter and Bryson Daily.

Hunter won't win because he plays at Colorado and isn't a QB or RB.

Daily won't win because he plays at Army and only averages like 90 passing yards a game. His game is not exciting. That being said Army could end up anywhere from 10-2 to 12-0 and wreck everyone's plans.

Jeanty has a chance because he has 2 big things on his side. Boise has some mindshare real estate as a Cinderella contender for a while now and that blue field. Plus he is a RB putting up video game numbers. If he shows out against UNLV the hype will take off. Outside of a weird upset Boise State will be 12-1 and ranked in the top10 come bowl time. UNLVx2 is the only real speedbump they have left. Lets get the elephant slain right now. Boise State has not played a hard schedule and their schedule does not get any harder going forward. Does not matter because the stats are so gaudy.

Would I trade Sampson for him.. heck no. But right now Jeanty is the best RB in the nation and its not close. Sampson is probably top 5.

haters can skip to the 2 minute mark for Oregon.. he made those guys look like fools. oh and he's a threat catching the ball also.

Yeah if that kid was in the SEC he would still be giving every team fits. Amazing RB.