Will Tennessee ever return to national contender status?

Majors with Tennessee six championships in football compare to women's basketball eight championships should Women's be held to highersstandards being the historically are the same.? I think not.
Believe football has established their standard. They fired the last coach to win a title and each coach since for mediocrity to failure. No need to compare todays programs, the football team in 3 years is in a better place overall. If you want to sidebar football talk, take it to the octagon on the football board for more thoughts.
 
Believe football has established their standard. They fired the last coach to win a title and each coach since for mediocrity to failure. No need to compare todays programs, the football team in 3 years is in a better place overall. If you want to sidebar football talk, take it to the octagon on the football board for more thoughts.
Point talking but still do not see Tennessee getting to sec championship in year five. Like kellie did in year four. Danny White goal of a sec championship game every five years. That leaves football coach one more year to match Kellie four and two meet Danny's White goal for the first time. Hope Danny's White buddy doesn't get a pass.
 
Point talking but still do not see Tennessee getting to sec championship in year five. Like kellie did in year four. Danny White goal of a sec championship game every five years. That leaves football coach one more year to match Kellie four and two meet Danny's White goal for the first time. Hope Danny's White buddy doesn't get a pass.
Football doesn’t have to match Kellie, no matter how much you want to believe they are equals. They are not. His orange bowl win supersedes a runner up finish.
 
Football doesn’t have to match Kellie, no matter how much you want to believe they are equals. They are not. His orange bowl win supersedes a runner up finish.
So your not sure Tennessee can bet Georgia in the next two years or make it to a game that matters. All other bowls are just a feel good game without hope of a sec or NCAA championship.@ @Majors there point in going in circles you have your view I have mine. That's good
 
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To me being in the top sixteen is not a high enough expectation. For any sports.

Like I said..............this is how far the LV Program has fallen.
Probably should make sure all the players get a trophy!!
 
Football doesn’t have to match Kellie, no matter how much you want to believe they are equals. They are not. His orange bowl win supersedes a runner up finish.
@Majors I knew Tennessee football had won six National championships. I just checked Wikipedia to answer? On how many Championships had Tennessee football won . I seen a film Or video. On Robert Ney land Tennessee football had undefeated seasons and had the # scoring defense any evening had more than one shutouts. But Tennessee football was lock sugar bowl and NCAA ended up giving it to some school like notedame or USC Notedame fighting Irish or however spell they got nod because the NCAA pick a championship team. Many in that video think Tennessee football should have won more under Robert Neland. That happened to Tennessee football under Robert Neland More than once undefeated seasons a and# defense in scoring and championships. IIt's been ten or fifteen years ago since seen video have You seen videos on how good a coach Robert Neland was.? Nothing do with the lady Vols basketball debate.
 
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@Majors I knew Tennessee football had won six National championships. I just checked Wikipedia to answer? On how many Championships had Tennessee football won . I seen a film Or video. On Robert Ney land Tennessee football had undefeated seasons and had the # scoring defense any evening had more than one shutouts. But Tennessee football was lock sugar bowl and NCAA ended up giving it to some school like notedame or USC Notedame fighting Irish or however spell they got nod because the NCAA pick a championship team. Many in that video think Tennessee football should have won more under Robert Neland. That happened to Tennessee football under Robert Neland More than once undefeated seasons a and# defense in scoring and championships. IIt's been ten or fifteen years ago since seen video have You seen videos on how good a coach Robert Neland was.? Nothing do with the lady Vols basketball debate.
My college dog was named after him and I have a brick from his home as well.
 
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Football doesn’t have to match Kellie, no matter how much you want to believe they are equals. They are not. His orange bowl win supersedes a runner up finish.

Yes to this. Not taking sides here Mudcat, just saying FB is the top revenue producer for all UT sports and its not even close, even in the down yrs. They fund all the non-revenue making sports and many others things. Like it or not, the TN brand is made by the success of the FB team.

Pat's success certainly added to the brand name, no debate there, but it is not the premier sport.
 
Yes to this. Not taking sides here Mudcat, just saying FB is the top revenue producer for all UT sports and its not even close, even in the down yrs. They fund all the non-revenue making sports and many others things. Like it or not, the TN brand is made by the success of the FB team.

Pat's success certainly added to the brand name, no debate there, but it is not the premier sport.

Why is this football versus WCBB even an issue. Tennessee, like most SEC schools, is a football school. You can say the same about the men's basketball team or baseball It will always be an also ran to football.

But, the LVs are a distinctive brand in their own right,though that has been diminished in recent years do to the integration of women's and men's sports.

The only relevant comparison is to the LVs and other women's sports.

The fact that people like to always reiterate that MENS FOOTBALL is a bigger sport than LVs WOMENS basketball, but don't feel a need to make a similar comparison to MEN'S basketball or MEN"s baseball, is a curious pattern, shall we say.
 
Why is this football versus WCBB even an issue. Tennessee, like most SEC schools, is a football school. You can say the same about the men's basketball team or baseball It will always be an also ran to football.

But, the LVs are a distinctive brand in their own right,though that has been diminished in recent years do to the integration of women's and men's sports.

The only relevant comparison is to the LVs and other women's sports.

The fact that people like to always reiterate that MENS FOOTBALL is a bigger sport than LVs WOMENS basketball, but don't feel a need to make a similar comparison to MEN'S basketball or MEN"s baseball, is a curious pattern, shall we say.
Your energy is addressed to those who didn’t initiate football or the comparison.
 
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You can get back to the top really quick in basketball. All you need is two strong recruiting classes and your there. That is what it is going to take to get back to the top. Average teams won't get you there and were in that category right now. LSU was no where a couple years ago and they are already back. UCLA wasb;t anything until the last couple of season. The answer is quite simple recruit two top five classes add a transfer or two where you need help and your back.
 
You can get back to the top really quick in basketball. All you need is two strong recruiting classes and your there. That is what it is going to take to get back to the top. Average teams won't get you there and were in that category right now. LSU was no where a couple years ago and they are already back. UCLA wasb;t anything until the last couple of season. The answer is quite simple recruit two top five classes add a transfer or two where you need help and your back.
It just takes us getting that truly elite 5 star prospect and not one that’s overrated, a player like Juju Watkins or Makayla Williams is the type of player I’m talking about.
 
yes we have one but I think to start it should be a guard/wing player since they can control the game more. having 2 would be ideal.
She played a lot on the perimeter last game. I think that is the plan cause she can get in the lane and score or take it to the basket. Wynn has that talent as well she just doesn't have the shooting ability. Make no mistake about our team where were hurting the most is in the post Karo is doing what she can as a smaller player we need Tamari and Jill to play a lot of good minutes.
 
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Point talking but still do not see Tennessee getting to sec championship in year five. Like kellie did in year four. Danny White goal of a sec championship game every five years. That leaves football coach one more year to match Kellie four and two meet Danny's White goal for the first time. Hope Danny's White buddy doesn't get a pass.
Money comes into play as well as popularity which all goes to football. Women's basketball can't compete with football fan support even if they were winning a Championship every year and football was going 8 and 4. No one is expecting the women's basketball program to ever be the standard. We just want it to be a top competitive team in the country cause Pat made it that and we need someone that can sustain it. Regardless of how much you like Kellie she needed to get us back there. How much longer she will have to do that is unknown, but I can feel it being close to being handed off to someone else if we don't suddenly start seeing better results.
 
She played a lot on the perimeter last game. I think that is the plan cause she can get in the lane and score or take it to the basket. Wynn has that talent as well she just doesn't have the shooting ability. Make no mistake about our team where were hurting the most is in the post Karo is doing what she can as a smaller player we need Tamari and Jill to play a lot of good minutes.
 
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If we can shoot the ball at 40 percent from the three and make 12 in any game we certainly have a chance to win that game. As far as post play that is the big problem. If we had that we'd be so much better.
 
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