Will Tennessee ever return to national contender status?

[Majors]

Going by Danny White Plan then the Football program should be getting a new coach if they do not get by Georgia and make it to the SEC championship game. Since Football is the most money making program and the most fan supported sport. In a five Of the current coaches time on rocky top. Since money is a key part of his plan. ThenDDanny White would be playing favorites from his old University job. The three most watch or followed sports at Tennessee are football then men's basketball then Women's basketball. Women's bar shouldn't higher than Men's basketball or football. If Danny White fire Kellie then He Should fire the current football coach for sure if they can not make SEC championship game appearance in year five. Or be backing his plan to fire Kellie and kept a friend.

As long as 100K keep filling the seats and paying for CKH 7K avg. attendance you might need another hill to battle.

 

[glv98]

Getting excited about beating Liberty should be a reflection of how far we’ve fallen.

And is. But so what? It's reality. I was alive and awake when we lost to MTSU, collapsed against ND, and were embarrassed by Ohio State. Again, not a reality I like and it's definitely a long way back to where we want to be. But I don't pretend we're above our current reality yet.

Who’s holding the glory years?

You are. Because you say this:

If you’ve forgotten where you’re at, look to the sky and see the banners hanging.

 

[glv98]

Don’t want to speak for Vic or Kim or the Universities but let’s not glaze over the fact RJ was a toxic situation at the time. She quit on her previous program.

Oh come on. They both wanted her bad out of the portal. That's why they immediately arranged visits. Do you really think they would have done that and then say "No thanks"? That is just a silly take, working overtime to discredit KJH best recruiting get.

Also, both Vic and Kim quit on their previous programs. How ironic if Vic in particular didn't want Rickea bc she "quit on her team" when he quit on her team just a year after recruiting her.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Going by Danny White Plan then the Football program should be getting a new coach if they do not get by Georgia and make it to the SEC championship game. Since Football is the most money making program and the most fan supported sport. In a five Of the current coaches time on rocky top. Since money is a key part of his plan. ThenDDanny White would be playing favorites from his old University job. The three most watch or followed sports at Tennessee are football then men's basketball then Women's basketball. Women's bar shouldn't higher than Men's basketball or football. If Danny White fire Kellie then He Should fire the current football coach for sure if they can not make SEC championship game appearance in year five. Or be backing his plan to fire Kellie and kept a friend.

How many NCAA Championships have the men's football team and the men's basketball team won? And how many ncaa championships have the women's basketball program won?.... that's the difference

mud, this is only going to get ugly...so I will drop out of this convo to keep our good standing

 

[Majors]

And is. But so what? It's reality. I was alive and awake when we lost to MTSU, collapsed against ND, and were embarrassed by Ohio State. Again, not a reality I like and it's definitely a long way back to where we want to be. But I don't pretend we're above our current reality yet.

You are. Because you say this:

The the last part comes with the brand. Somehow excuses became tolerated and softened the base.

 

[Majors]

Oh come on. They both wanted her bad out of the portal. That's why they immediately arranged visits. Do you really think they would have done that and then say "No thanks"? That is just a silly take, working overtime to discredit KJH best recruiting get.

Also, both Vic and Kim quit on their previous programs.

I’m sure they did. How is it silly, stating she was a toxic player at the time. Same semester she was benched here and held out of games. No doubt she is CKH best get, don’t think I’ve said any different. Other teams/rosters can overlook CKH needs.

 

[glv98]

The the last part comes with the brand. Somehow excuses became tolerated and softened the base.

How exactly does a base show intolerance and hardness? Sharply worded posts? Burning mattresses?

It's fine to honor a decade bygone brand as a future standard. But it doesn't stop me from living in current reality and compartmentalizing current season situation. I have zero illusion that doing so holds the program back in any way.

So we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[Coach Jumper]

dam,,,I am in agreement with majors....alert the media
I refuse to move the goalposts...period

 

[Majors]

dam,,,I am in agreement with majors....alert the media
I refuse to move the goalposts...period

2024 off to a good start

 

[Majors]

How exactly does a base show intolerance and hardness? Sharply worded posts? Burning mattresses?

It's fine to honor a decade bygone brand as a future standard. But it doesn't stop me from living in current reality and compartmentalizing current season situation. I have zero illusion that doing so holds the program back in any way.

So we'll have to agree to disagree.

I don’t take it personal, we can agree to disagree.

 

[glv98]

No doubt she is CKH best get, don’t think I’ve said any different.

Oh please. You got the dancing shoes on this morning. You definitely tried to downplay the recruiting get by implying it was only bc no one else wanted her. Which is crazy. They all wanted, and would have taken her, in spite of circumstances.

Also, even if that were true to any degree, huge kudos to KJH how she overcame the "toxicity" to make the player and person we see now. Hard to imagine Vic or Kim would have achieved that.

 

[Majors]

Oh please. You got the dancing shoes on this morning. You definitely tried to downplay the recruiting get by implying it was only bc no one else wanted her. Which is crazy. They all wanted, and would have taken her, in spite of circumstances.

Also, even if that were true to any degree, huge kudos to KJH how she overcame the "toxicity" to make the player and person we see now. Hard to imagine Vic or Kim would have achieved that.

You can recognize the talent and you can recognize the issues. Both can be true without any dancing.

 

[glv98]

You can recognize the talent and you can recognize the issues. Both can be true without any dancing.

And did. But you can recognize the issues without blowing it into a narrative that KJH got her bc no one else wanted her. That's the dance.

 

[Majors]

And did. But you can recognize the issues without blowing it into a narrative that KJH got her bc no one else wanted her. That's the dance.

Which was the “i don’t want to speak” part for the two programs/universities you mentioned.

 

[mudcat1973]

How many NCAA Championships have the men's football team and the men's basketball team won? And how many ncaa championships have the women's basketball program won?.... that's the difference

mud, this is only going to get ugly...so I will drop out of this convo to keep our good standing

Now you step in it. Tennessee has been selected as national championships six times from NCAA selectors designated by NCAA. Tennessee claims Six nationalttitles... proof just check Wikipedia I was just there before posting. So Football is unparse to the women's basketball On championship wise six to eight. So women's basketball has not had way more more championships than football. So Kellie should not be Expected higher standers than football @Coach Jumper

 

[glv98]

Which was the “i don’t want to speak” part for the two programs/universities you mentioned.

But you did speak!

Only you used the weasel dodge of "some people are saying". Not me goosing the rumor, but "some people". Got it.

 

[Majors]

But you did speak!

Only you used the weasel dodge of "some people are saying". Not me goosing the rumor, but "some people". Got it.

Where did I speak for Kim or Vic…those were the two programs you selected. I stated other programs don’t have CKH needs, take that as you will.

 

[glv98]

Don’t want to speak for Vic or Kim or the Universities but let’s not glaze over the fact RJ was a toxic situation at the time. She quit on her previous program.

Where did I speak for Kim or Vic…those were the two programs you selected. I stated other programs don’t have CKH needs, take that as you will.

Spoke for them by "not speaking" for them. Obviously those two programs were selected bc they were the other two finalists. And you did not say it was bc of different needs, you said (oh yeah not you but someone implied) they didn't take her bc of toxicity.

But enough, you can find much more plausible ways to diss KJH.

 

[FormerLadyVolFan]

Holding the current women's basketball program to a standard that hasn't been reached since 2007 is beyond pale and further shows your agenda to fire our coach. The football team and men's basketball team haven't sniffed a NC since 1998!

You and your ilk can rail about recruiting all you want, but until changes are made either in NIL rules or our ability to raise NIL money, we will not consistently be able to sign elite talent on a consistent basis. That's a fact, whether you care to believe it or not.

Why don't you crawl back under your rock and get back with us after the season is over? Feel free to comment on coaching and game performance by the players, but the constant drumbeat of your 'fire the coach' daily posts is tiresome and not constructive. Recruits and their parents read these boards and further inhibits our ability to recruit.

In the meantime, the rest of us will continue to support the team and coaches that represent the Lady Vol brand in every way we can.

Who’s holding the glory years? Pretty sure my stance is in the now. My standards are if you’ve forgotten where you’re at, look to the sky and see the banners hanging. But agree, wins are better than losses. Getting excited about beating Liberty should be a reflection of how far we’ve fallen.

 

[Majors]

Holding the current women's basketball program to a standard that hasn't been reached since 2007 is beyond pale and further shows your agenda to fire our coach. The football team and men's basketball team haven't sniffed a NC since 1998!

You and your ilk can rail about recruiting all you want, but until changes are made either in NIL rules or our ability to raise NIL money, we will not consistently be able to sign elite talent on a consistent basis. That's a fact, whether you care to believe it or not.

Why don't you crawl back under your rock and get back with us after the season is over? Feel free to comment on coaching and game performance by the players, but the constant drumbeat of your 'fire the coach' daily posts is tiresome and not constructive. Recruits and their parents read these boards and further inhibits our ability to recruit.

In the meantime, the rest of us, will continue to support the team and coaches that represent the Lady Vol brand in every way we can.

Nice zig and zag trying to connect dots of other programs. Where did I state I don’t support the team? I can support the girls and hold the leadership accountable for their failures. Is that rock close to the sand you bury your head in? Just so we can stay in contact.

You notice, the personal jabs come from the ones who claim to be the good guys/gals.

 

[mudcat1973]

Now you step in it. Tennessee has been selected as national championships six times from NCAA selectors designated by NCAA. Tennessee claims Six nationalttitles... proof just check Wikipedia I was just there before posting. So Football is unparse to the women's basketball On championship wise six to eight. So women's basketball has not had way more more championships than football. So Kellie should not be Expected higher standers than football @Coach Jumper

@Majors how many Championships do think Tennessee has won if football Tennessee claims Six. So standards should not higher in women's basketball than football. That's not counting years where Tennessee where Rob of more football championships when they were undefeated seasos. During New land General time the name sake of the stadium. Robert Neyland

 

[Coach Jumper]

Now you step in it. Tennessee has been selected as national championships six times from NCAA selectors designated by NCAA. Tennessee claims Six nationalttitles... proof just check Wikipedia I was just there before posting. So Football is unparse to the women's basketball On championship wise six to eight. So women's basketball has not had way more more championships than football. So Kellie should not be Expected higher standers than football @Coach Jumper

You can lower your bar MC,,,I WILL NOT!

 

[mudcat1973]

You can lower your bar MC,,,I WILL NOT!

NCAA designated selectors selected Tennessee as national championships six times. Should only national championships after bcf when Tennessee played fIorida state not count. Uou would taking four Champship away from Tennessee and all the other University championship game of 1998 orwon before 1998. Tennessee football has Six national championships. You asked how many Championship has football won. As for as good standing goes I have no Complains in someone opinionssaying what they think. Men have died in wars for the freedom of speech. Including one in my family line. The bar to me shouldn't higher than football on Kellie . Fact Tennessee volunteers football six to Eight women's basketball is in the same ballpark. If Tennessee holds Women's basketball higher than football
Thats not right.

 

[mudcat1973]

@Majors how many Championships do think Tennessee has won if football Tennessee claims Six. So standards should not higher in women's basketball than football. That's not counting years where Tennessee where Rob of more football championships when they were undefeated seasos. During New land General time the name sake of the stadium. Robert Neyland

Majors with Tennessee six championships in football compare to women's basketball eight championships should Women's be held to highersstandards being the historically are the same.? I think not.

 

[woodpusher]

Didn't Pat have a fast acting kind. Not disagree on 2010 signs just saying like cancer Summit had a fast acting dementia do not know how many get replug lar dementia nighter is a good news from the doctor.

I would think so. I've known of people of far less means who lived much longer than 6 years after diagnosis.