Will the real Trayvon Martin please stand up?

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YorkVol said:
Me too.
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Just to point it out; you are aware that doing so would almost certainly subject you to arrest for assault.

Honest question; as crappy as the idea of "being followed" might be if you are considered in public do you think somebody should be able to beat somebody down and only need to claim "Dude was following me."?
 
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Wonder how long it will take Pamela Gellar to find Martin's ties to Al-Qaeda, and for gs to then copy and paste the blog here.
 
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Grafitti and Mary Jane.

So, I guess that means twenty millions Americans deserve to be shot.
 
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zjcvols said:
Grafitti and Mary Jane.

So, I guess that means twenty millions Americans deserve to be shot.
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no it does not mean 20 million need to be shot

but it also means the cute lil pic of him when he was 10 isnt being 100% truthfull.

they are publicly lynching zimmerman and making it appear he killed this sweet, kind, lil boy

the fact shows different

if its murder its murder but the kid was not an angel
 
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NEOCON said:
no it does not mean 20 million need to be shot

but it also means the cute lil pic of him when he was 10 isnt being 100% truthfull.

they are publicly lynching zimmerman and making it appear he killed this sweet, kind, lil boy

the fact shows different

if its murder its murder but the kid was not an angel
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Maybe he did. Ever met him? You never did so you don't know him.

I know plenty of sweet kids that have smoked pot and done grafitti before. It's two of the most common things teenagers do. It's just another ignorant GS thread.
 
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Oh, and if Zimmerman had minded his own damn business and never got out of the car, this tragedy never happens.
 
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There are way too many people who 'know' what needs to be done, who 'know' what happened', who 'know' why it happened and who 'know' who is responsible.

We don't know jack.

We have parts and pieces and none of us has the coherent whole. We each have confirmation bias that cause us to accept certain facts as 'relevant' and others as 'pointless'.

Let the system work. It usually gets it right.

If we learn more, and find that an injustice has occurred after the system has its chance, then we should get all riled up.
 
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zjcvols said:
Maybe he did. Ever met him? You never did so you don't know him.

I know plenty of sweet kids that have smoked pot and done grafitti before. It's two of the most common things teenagers do. It's just another ignorant GS thread.
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and maybe he didnt
gs is assuming the kid was a thug and was beating zimmermans ass for no reason

you are assuming (and yes it appears so) that zimmerman was hunting the kid down and was looking for a fight

i dont know if either is the case or if the truth lies in the middle but i am sure as hell getting sick of this being more about race than anything else.

somehow zimmerman represents all evil white people who want to kill blacks and the kid represents all oppressed black people in the country and is damn sickening.

if this was a white guy killing a white guy it wouldnt even be news and the ONLY reason it got major play is because the media thought zimmerman was white before they knew better.
 
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zjcvols said:
Oh, and if Zimmerman had minded his own damn business and never got out of the car, this tragedy never happens.
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Not defending the dude, cuz I don't know what went down (and neither do you), but isn't watching people in your neighborhood and stuff part of Neighborhood Watch? Minding your own business is kinda counter-productive, no?
 
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RespectTradition said:
Not defending the dude, cuz I don't know what went down (and neither do you), but isn't watching people in your neighborhood and stuff part of Neighborhood Watch? Minding your own business is kinda counter-productive, no?
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He got out of the car. I have no idea what happened after that, nor will I even try to decipher it.

All we know is this. Zimmerman got out of the car when told not to. That's it. That was a stupid move.
 
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zjcvols said:
He got out of the car. I have no idea what happened after that, nor will I even try to decipher it.

All we know is this. Zimmerman got out of the car when told not to. That's it. That was a stupid move.
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Lol, good point.
 
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NEOCON said:
and maybe he didnt
gs is assuming the kid was a thug and was beating zimmermans ass for no reason

you are assuming (and yes it appears so) that zimmerman was hunting the kid down and was looking for a fight

i dont know if either is the case or if the truth lies in the middle but i am sure as hell getting sick of this being more about race than anything else.

somehow zimmerman represents all evil white people who want to kill blacks and the kid represents all oppressed black people in the country and is damn sickening.

if this was a white guy killing a white guy it wouldnt even be news and the ONLY reason it got major play is because the media thought zimmerman was white before they knew better.
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It's GS. We know what he is doing.

And if Trayvon Martin was white, this probably never occurs, correct?

It's about race. Whether you want to admit it or not, Zimmerman was following a kid (who was black) for no apparent reason other than he was black. It is about race. I know Zimmerman has some Hispanic descent, so no I don't think it's white against black. But it's black against stereotypes.

And I'd be nuts to try and figure out what the hell happen. There's only two people who will 100% know for sure. One of them is dead, the other is trying what he can to stay out of jail.

Again, if Trayvon is white and dressed in a blue polo and khaki shorts, he never is shot or followed to begin with. And that's the point of the media coverage.
 
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I'm going to ask a very loaded question.

you see a black guy walking around late at night in a neighborhood where you know evryone and you (not you personally) automatically assume that the black person might be up to no good.

is that a stereotype or is it a logical thought process based on criminal statistics?
 
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NEOCON said:
I'm going to ask a very loaded question.

you see a black guy walking around late at night in a neighborhood where you know evryone and you (not you personally) automatically assume that the black person might be up to no good.

is that a stereotype or is it a logical thought process based on criminal statistics?
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Stereotype. I hate stereotypes for one reason. No two people are the same. That black kid could have a father in the military, a mother as a school teacher, has a 4.0 GPA, and is going to college next semester. Or he could have no family, is part of a gang, just got busted with marijuana and is packing heat. Or it could be somewhere in the middle (like Trayvon was).

Just like any white kid, hispanic kid, asian kid, or any other race for that matter.

Just because (and I don't know the stats, I'm making them it up) it says 60% of black teenagers are part of a gang doesn't mean you should say that kid is part of a gang. He could be 2 of the 5.

I view everyone has an unique individual. Nobody is the same. Call me naive, but that's how I view the world.

The point the media is making (despite some illogical leaps) is that a black kid shouldn't be followed in a neighborhood because he's black. And that is damn true.
 
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