Will there be football in 2020?

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Defcon5 said:
Cold & flu don’t kill too many people each year. Big pharma makes too much money off treatment than cure.
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The heck are you talking about?

2018 - 2019 Approximately, 35.5 million people were infected with influenza, approximately 16.5 million went to their healthcare provider for treatment, approximately 490,600 were hospitalized, and 34,200 people died from it. This is something we’ve had a vaccine for, for many many years. The biggest reason people don’t have issues with the flu anymore is the vaccine and herd immunity. Plus, proven treatments outside of a vaccine.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
I hear her, now I would like to hear from some others, several others. If that is true other doctors would be willing to speak up. Lets here from them. I do have a sense that something is not right just don't trust 1 source or YouTube. I really hate YouTube deciding what I can see.
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Multiple doctors who have treated this virus have stated it is absolutely ridiculous that we shut down and haven’t been going about our lives. Basically stating that once you come out of lockdown your immune system is going to be weaker and you are going to be more susceptible to the virus. Whereas if you were out and about you would have a higher immune system and would have less symptoms from the virus and be able to fight it off just like our bodies do every other virus.
 
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OffTackleVol said:
was quoted by SDS as saying we will not have fans in the stands this fall. Wow, what a bold statement. Contrary to what he's saying, SEC campuses, with Vandy being the exception, have all said students will be back on campus this fall. I'd say football season is a go with fans in the stands......no doubt in my mind. Somebody needs to reel this guy in..........
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Bold statement? I’ve been telling everyone and I’m no expert. Connect the dots...

If you think we can go from 6 feet to a 108k orgy in 4 months, then I have some bad news for everyone.
 
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OffTackleVol said:
was quoted by SDS as saying we will not have fans in the stands this fall. Wow, what a bold statement. Contrary to what he's saying, SEC campuses, with Vandy being the exception, have all said students will be back on campus this fall. I'd say football season is a go with fans in the stands......no doubt in my mind. Somebody needs to reel this guy in..........
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What about Florida? Have they announced anything yet?
 
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Hard to social distance with 400 guys cramming into a bathroom to share a trough, stall, sink or trash can. But I'd really like to be in the stands to see us beat Fla this fall.
 
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OffTackleVol said:
was quoted by SDS as saying we will not have fans in the stands this fall. Wow, what a bold statement. Contrary to what he's saying, SEC campuses, with Vandy being the exception, have all said students will be back on campus this fall. I'd say football season is a go with fans in the stands......no doubt in my mind. Somebody needs to reel this guy in..........
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Ignoring which side of the argument anyone is on, I do find it very interesting that you call him a disease expert, and then you immediately try to discredit him. There was a time not that long ago where we listened to experts because we acknowledged they were experts in the field. I miss those days.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Yes because the risk if death is so incredibly low.
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Exactly...death rate will ultimately be the same as the flu. It IS very contagious so elderly and at risk people need to take extra precautions but the rest of the the country needs to get back to normal. People seem to gloss over the fact that over 60k people died of the flu in 2017/18.
 
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JacketVol said:
Ok. Real people have been dying for at least the last few years before this and yet, even now, births outpace deaths.
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US unemployment rate is now 14.7%, the highest since the great depression. Keep the economy shutdown much longer and it will surpass that. Is throwing the nation into its worst economy ever worth it over a virus that is very selective in who it may kill and based on new data likely has a fatality rate of less than 1% ?
 
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OffTackleVol said:
was quoted by SDS as saying we will not have fans in the stands this fall. Wow, what a bold statement. Contrary to what he's saying, SEC campuses, with Vandy being the exception, have all said students will be back on campus this fall. I'd say football season is a go with fans in the stands......no doubt in my mind. Somebody needs to reel this guy in..........
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Probably_in_Class said:
Ignoring which side of the argument anyone is on, I do find it very interesting that you call him a disease expert, and then you immediately try to discredit him. There was a time not that long ago where we listened to experts because we acknowledged they were experts in the field. I miss those days.
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Forget football in specific, there are many factors which have to be considered, and experts in more than communicable disease with very important input. We should absolutely listen to the medical experts and the science experts. We should also listen to the economic, business and policy experts. Every facet of opening up must be weighed. No matter what, people will die. It is a consequence of life. It's a matter of balance, and people will disagree on where the scale tips.
 
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508mikey said:
sick of these so called experts everywhere
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So called expert...

Dr. Jon McCullers
Pediatrician-in-Chief, LeBonheur Children's Hospital (Top 10 Children's hospital, largest in the Southeast)
Professor and Chair, Department of Pediatrics (largest pediatric training program in the Southeast)
Assistant Professor, Microbiology (germs), Immunology (immunity to diseases like COVID-19, vaccines, etc) & Biochemistry (you wouldn't understand)
(Your beloved) University of Tennessee Health Science Center
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Real people are dying every day from the flu, pneumonia, etc. but we don’t shut the world down for that......
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That is because there are vaccines and treatments that are effective for flu, pneumonia, etc. Not so for COVID-19. Also, this strain of Coronavirus is 30 or more times more contagious than flu. For context, see Trousdale prison situation.
 
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FBtime said:
Exactly...death rate will ultimately be the same as the flu. It IS very contagious so elderly and at risk people need to take extra precautions but the rest of the the country needs to get back to normal. People seem to gloss over the fact that over 60k people died of the flu in 2017/18.
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This is true but that occurred over the period of 12 months. COVID-19 has been extant only since February.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Multiple immunologists have stated it is absolutely ridiculous that we shut down and haven’t been going about our lives. Basically stating that once you come out of lockdown your immune system is going to be weaker and you are going to be more susceptible to the virus. Whereas if you were out and about you would have a higher immune system and would have less symptoms from the virus and be able to fight it off just like our bodies do every other virus.
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No valid immunologists have said that.
 
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Delmar said:
But, but he’s obviously not a smart as our couch doctors and mama’s basement epidemiologists.
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Yeah not at one time, but they're packed all day everyday, so you can bet there have been more than 100,000 thousand people in a local Walmart by the end of the week in a big city, less than that in a small town, but you can bet an entire small town will have traversed a local Walmart countless times over.

I have family in camden Tenn. Tiny town. Lots of tiny towns in the south. Everybody and their grandma has been up in the Walmart there over the last 6 weeks. No cases.

I live in an area where 245 thousand people live and we have a billion grocery stores and they are filled to the brim all day everyday.

As of two days ago. 8 people in the hospital. No way the thing isn't spreading in grocery stores.

The death rate is just so low and most people are asymptomatic.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Is driving hundreds of miles to the game risking an auto accident and potentially dying worth a football season? I've been taking that risk for decades.

Unless you're in one of the high risk groups, the odds of dying by a lot of other ways are greater.
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Understand that having hypertension or being between 40 and 60 years old is high risk.
 
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Probably_in_Class said:
Ignoring which side of the argument anyone is on, I do find it very interesting that you call him a disease expert, and then you immediately try to discredit him. There was a time not that long ago where we listened to experts because we acknowledged they were experts in the field. I miss those days.
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I miss experts without questionable loyalties and ethics.
 
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