Yemi granted release. (order of protection taken 4/22)

#126
#126
Stoked4Zo said:
For what being left with nothing and trying to turn a program around...people are clueless when it comes to bashing Martin. Nothing he does satisfies the haters. If he would have kept Yemi he wouldn't have known what he was doing...now that he got rid of him everyone thinks he is the worse person on the planet. Scholarships are earned on a year to year basis. If you aren't performing the way you should be and progressing you are going to lose it.
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He has not made the tourney yet....replaced yemi with a project .....he has not earned anything yet.
 
#127
#127
Stoked4Zo said:
For what being left with nothing and trying to turn a program around...people are clueless when it comes to bashing Martin. Nothing he does satisfies the haters. If he would have kept Yemi he wouldn't have known what he was doing...now that he got rid of him everyone thinks he is the worse person on the planet. Scholarships are earned on a year to year basis. If you aren't performing the way you should be and progressing you are going to lose it.
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Just make the damn tourney every year. That's all we want!
 
#129
#129
Stoked4Zo said:
For what being left with nothing and trying to turn a program around...people are clueless when it comes to bashing Martin. Nothing he does satisfies the haters. If he would have kept Yemi he wouldn't have known what he was doing...now that he got rid of him everyone thinks he is the worse person on the planet. Scholarships are earned on a year to year basis. If you aren't performing the way you should be and progressing you are going to lose it.
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I agree that if Yemi wasn't performing that he should be replaced. CCM did the right thing there. My only concern is looking at who he is bringing in as a replacement. I really do hope he works out, but his stats aren't very reassuring.
 
#130
#130
patrick said:
I read the tweet to mean that this is not a change he wants or why else would he write/tweet that.

"Change" (no longer being on the Volunteer bball team) "may not be what we want".

That statement has only one implication and that is not that he voluntarily chose to leave the team.

If you believe otherwise, you need to have your head examined.
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Speculation, speculation, speculation. Many on this site need their heads examined.
 
#131
#131
I'm not sure if I got my point across. Some people say that it was Yemi's choice and some say he pushed or forced.
I'm hoping that Yemi was indeed getting pushed by CCM and the staff to transfer. Than you can assume that CCM finally figured out that maybe Yemi is not as good as he thought he was.
If it was by choice, than it would have meant that CCM saw big potential in Yemi and who knows what would happen.
So if you are one of these people that are saying that Yemi made the decision on his behalf, are you glad he is leaving or would you have wanted him to be here his Senior year?
 
#132
#132
calban said:
Had a team capable of dancing this season.
Blew it when he told them they were in regardless of how they played against Bama.
I mean who was telling him the SEC would place 5 or 6 when most of the analysts were arguing 3 or 4. Some even 2.
JMO though.
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This line of thinking is strange. Calipari was telling his kids that every game was a playoff and they laid an egg in the SEC tourney too. Two coaches saying opposite things and both get the same result means that "coach speak" has little to no bearing on actual performance.
 
#133
#133
Dougie_D said:
Let's be honest here. Let's look at 2 scenarios as if Yemi was not forced and Yemi stays.

Yemi does everything right, and still has little PT. Maybe Cuonzo feels as if he could coach Yemi to be good? I still would have my doubts. Yemi becomes a wasted scholly for years.


Yemi (as rumors have been said) becomes very arrogant, rude, disruptive, missed classes, etc.. CCM tells him that he will get little PT and he has personality problems. CCM let's it play out. Still it becomes a wasted scholly for years.

This is where I get confused though...

In the coaching business, you can't play the nice guy all the time. Whenever you feel like you are able to UPGRADE in a position and you know 100% the recruit will sign LOI if offered, you ABSOLUTELY have to do something to make room.

Bruce Pearl knew he made a recruiting mistake with Daniel West. He made sure to "push" him out as soon as he could.

With Cuonzo, what disturbs me is that it has taken 2 full years to finally figure out that Yemi was not going to work. THAT SCARES ME.... Especially if Cuonzo was never on planing on "forcing" him out. Force, push..it's the same thing regardless.

If this was Yemi's full decision to leave, and nothing was forced, pushed, etc...than CCM needs a reality check on his evaluation/recruiting.
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Pearl didnt force out West. He was an academics casuality if I remember correctly and was never actually a member of the team.
 
#134
#134
calban said:
Had a team capable of dancing this season.
Blew it when he told them they were in regardless of how they played against Bama.
I mean who was telling him the SEC would place 5 or 6 when most of the analysts were arguing 3 or 4. Some even 2.
JMO though.
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You are drawing a fairly irresponsible conclusion based on a lot of assumption here. I can see where you may interpret his postgame comments following the Mizzou win and prior to the Bama game in the tourney to mean he felt comfortable with their resume. However, there is but a faint parallel between that interpretation and "telling his team they were in regardless of how they played against Alabama."

Perhaps his team read his body language, read between the lines, or made assumptions based on his media comments. But I HIGHLY doubt he told them they were in regardless of how they played against UA.

JMO
 
#135
#135
zansdad said:
This line of thinking is strange. Calipari was telling his kids that every game was a playoff and they laid an egg in the SEC tourney too. Two coaches saying opposite things and both get the same result means that "coach speak" has little to no bearing on actual performance.
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Correct. It's just another way to identify those who simply don't want Martin to succeed. They invent reasons to rip him. This reason makes zero sense.
 
#136
#136
vols 30 said:
It's not that Yemi is gone, it's CM replaced him with a similar player. No one out there that averaged more than 3 points a game?
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If this guy transferred from Duke, you wouldn't care how many points he averaged. Using his PPG average as the sole reasin for not wanting the guy is foolish. There are plenty of reasons to think this is a stretch, PPG average is pretty myopic.
 
#137
#137
BigZiti09 said:
Correct. It's just another way to identify those who simply don't want Martin to succeed. They invent reasons to rip him. This reason makes zero sense.
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This line of thinking is strange.
If you criticize someone or have a different opinion = you don't want them to succeed.
 
#138
#138
zansdad said:
This line of thinking is strange. Calipari was telling his kids that every game was a playoff and they laid an egg in the SEC tourney too. Two coaches saying opposite things and both get the same result means that "coach speak" has little to no bearing on actual performance.
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NO bearing?
I doubt that seriously.
 
#140
#140
calban said:
NO bearing?
I doubt that seriously.
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Okay if it has any bearing, then tell me how 2 coaches, in the same conference, with teams on the bubble were telling their teams/media exactly the opposite things but got the same result.

I understand that the end of last season was disappointing but blaming it on a few words said after a hard fought win to end the regular season seems a bit of a stretch to me.
 
#141
#141
calban said:
“You’ve got to do the job and I think the job is done.”

Spoken after the Missouri win.
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He's not the only person that thought that. Let's not forget that making the tourney is not a cut and dried thing for teams on the bubble. In many other years UT gets in. This selection committee decided that they (a group of 10 individuals) didn't like UT's resume as much as others. A different committee might have had a different result and UT gets in (even after losing to Bama).

I blame Martin for the Bama loss too. I just don't think it was his comments after the Mizzou game that are to be criticized.
 
#143
#143
zansdad said:
Okay if it has any bearing, then tell me how 2 coaches, in the same conference, with teams on the bubble were telling their teams/media exactly the opposite things but got the same result.

I understand that the end of last season was disappointing but blaming it on a few words said after a hard fought win to end the regular season seems a bit of a stretch to me.
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We're not talking a few words. We're talking a coach's mind set and how he approaches the next game.
 
#144
#144
zansdad said:
He's not the only person that thought that. Let's not forget that making the tourney is not a cut and dried thing for teams on the bubble. In many other years UT gets in. This selection committee decided that they (a group of 10 individuals) didn't like UT's resume as much as others. A different committee might have had a different result and UT gets in (even after losing to Bama).

I blame Martin for the Bama loss too. I just don't think it was his comments after the Mizzou game that are to be criticized.
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He said the same thing again during the week on a radio interview before the tourny.

Not many people thought that TN was "IN' unless we beat Bama. We were projected "last team in" going into the game in most bracketology polls. Of course a loss would drop us out. So, CCM might not have been the "only" person that thought they were safely in, but there wasn't many others that thought that.
 
#145
#145
calban said:
“You’ve got to do the job and I think the job is done.”

Spoken after the Missouri win.
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I ackowledged that. I just think there is a clear difference in "coach speak" pandering to the committee through a media outlet, and blatantly telling his team the Alabama game doesn't matter, which is what your comments suggest you believe he did.

Point in fact, one could argue that simply speaking about it to the media screams that he was unsure of their stance and felt he needed to plea his team's case to the committee via the media in an indirect manner.
 
#146
#146
cncchris33 said:
I ackowledged that. I just think there is a clear difference in "coach speak" pandering to the committee through a media outlet, and blatantly telling his team the Alabama game doesn't matter, which is what your comments suggest you believe he did.

Point in fact, one could argue that simply speaking about it to the media screams that he was unsure of their stance and felt he needed to plea his team's case to the committee via the media in an indirect manner.
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Yeah, a lot of people seem to think this, and that is complete BS IMO.
 
#148
#148
I don't think that CCM thought the BAMA game was irrelevant. I think that he thought that it was a big game in order to win an SEC title. I don't think that he thought that needed the win to get NCAA tourney though. The way his team played in the SEC tourny didn't help his defense.

I'm hoping that CCM is smarter than trying to "pondering to the committee through a media outlet". Telling the committee that you are in through the media and laying a big egg in the SEC tourny is not a smart move. Wouldn't matter anyway. The committee could care less if CCM thinks he's in the tourney or not.
 
#149
#149
foreverorange24 said:
Martin is such a F-in douche!!! Yemi was going to be a good player for us. He improved every game he played in and did his job. This was a dumb move by Martin and he can go "F" himself. He might as well transfer too, because he won't be here to much longer
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Wow. Calm down bro. Yemi was a fun player to root for but he's not that big of a deal TBH. I wish him luck but besides a couple of games, he was a non factor.
 
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