Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[RiseToTheTop]

So no one going to question why Leonard Little didn't do jail time...guess since he's a VFL we have different standards?


I think it's awful and Ruggs' behavior is inexcusable. But he's also a high profile millionaire, I'll be absolutely shocked if he does any jail time. Cause sadly that's how messed up our justice system is.

the standards should be the same period. idc where someone went to school at all.


I wont be shocked. He will absolutely do time in my opinion but who knows.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Only persons I could think of who might compete with RW are Ed Too Tall Jones and Bill Wade

 

[jave36]

So no one going to question why Leonard Little didn't do jail time...guess since he's a VFL we have different standards?


I think it's awful and Ruggs' behavior is inexcusable. But he's also a high profile millionaire, I'll be absolutely shocked if he does any jail time. Cause sadly that's how messed up our justice system is.

Donte Stallworth had a similar situation.

 

[mrmax86]

I think all the NFL teams woupd happily arrange for cars or drivers for the night if it meant no drinking and driving.

How selfish.

Most of them DO have programs for this, that also offer anonymity.

 

[Jackcrevol]

the standards should be the same period. idc where someone went to school at all.

he will do jail time. California is usually pretty close to the letter of the law. its the appelate courts that are usually more liberal, its my understanding. My brother was in military out there, so, going off what he's saying. Most of his experience was prosecuting child sex cases in mil.

 

[BlackCreekVol]

Maaaaan, I'm gonna be on a flight to Salt Lake City during the game Saturday night

Might have to pay for that in-flight wifi

Good luck...That didn't work for me during the Bowling Green game. Stuck refreshing gamecast score

 

[Big Orange#1]

So no one going to question why Leonard Little didn't do jail time...guess since he's a VFL we have different standards?


I think it's awful and Ruggs' behavior is inexcusable. But he's also a high profile millionaire, I'll be absolutely shocked if he does any jail time. Cause sadly that's how messed up our justice system is.

No this is too high profile and tragic. I think he’d have to change genders like Caitlyn Jenner did to avoid prison time

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

Oh how cool you are tweeting college kids!

Well...look at you looking for attention...

 

[MoCo_Vol]

the standards should be the same period. idc where someone went to school at all.


I wont be shocked. He will absolutely do time in my opinion but who knows.

Maybe...only happened to 4 other NFL players that I can find.

Josh Brent - Intoxication manslaughter
Michael Floyd - Extreme DUI
Leonard Little - Involuntary manslaughter
Donte Stallworth - DUI manslaughter

Max time in jail was 180 days by Josh Brent, the others did 30 days or less and most their punishment was related to house arrest or probation and community service.

Edit: Also it appears Brent had previously served time for a DUI.

 

[Devo182]

We're not giving up 37 points to Kentucky

That defensive ranking hardly accounts for the level of QB competition we've faced...and even then only Pitt really got it done before garbage time. Bama was shut off before the 4th and...well...UF no one can explain. But Ole Miss and 3 quarters at Bama say hello. Quadruple-pick Levis will be lucky to reach 25.

 

[Dudley Smith]

Maybe...only happened to 4 other NFL players that I can find.

Josh Brent - Intoxication manslaughter
Michael Floyd - Extreme DUI
Leonard Little - Involuntary manslaughter
Donte Stallworth - DUI manslaughter

Max time in jail was 180 days by Josh Brent, the others did 30 days or less and most their punishment was related to house arrest or probation and community service.

Dwayne Goodrich:
Cornerback Dwayne Goodrich: "The Cowboy Who Killed Those Kids"

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Dwayne Goodrich:
Cornerback Dwayne Goodrich: "The Cowboy Who Killed Those Kids"

Accurate 12.5 sentencing, free after serving 8. Hit & run that killed two people apparently.

Pretty messed up that of the 5 cases 3 are former Vols, wonder if we get mud dragged by the media a bit when Ruggs is brought up.

 

[Devo182]

But those 94 yards were about double Miss State's season average....they NEVER run the ball.

Took a ton of carries to get there too - albeit still above their season average - looked it up that day - it was still a paltry 2.7 or so YPC iirc.

Certainly think a dink n dunk...then bomb passing attack could beat UK. But hey, if we're +4 TOs we should win too.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Took a ton of carries to get there too - albeit still above their season average - it was still a paltry 2.7 or so YPC iirc.

35 attempts for 94 yards and 2.7 YPC, would have been a lot higher but Rogers rarely took off even with green field in front of him.

Hoping Hooker is more willing to take advantage of Kentucky if they drop back to prevent deep balls as much as they did against Mississippi State.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

I believe it’s technically @InVOLuntary manslaughter…
I’m all seriousness, He’s 22, prolly 5-8 year sentence and out in a few on good behavior. This is a really tricky one IMO, happens to a lot of good people that make a bad decision, one that many people make and fortunately it turns out ok until it doesn’t…

It’s not tricky at all. If you kill someone, you deserve a long prison sentence. Accidentally or purposefully. You took someone’s chance at a long and fulfilling life. You don’t deserve a slap on the wrist and only 5 years in prison. Your life goes on and there’s doesn’t.

(This is only discussing Ruggs drunk driving and killing someone. It should not be used in any other context and is intended for its original interpretation against driving drunk and killing a person)

 

[UTJoe]

Is there any significant news or just more of everyone's dumbassery?

Apparently Evans, Simmons, and Cade were practicing today.

 

[Devo182]

Just realized that Dooley and Pruitt are with the Giants. Also just noticed the giants have 2 wins. Could be coincidence.

And those 2 doofuses are being led by "assistant to the regional manager" Joe Judge...just imagine being a Miss St grad assistant...then 10 years as a STs assistant/coach and suddenly hired as an NFL HC in the toughest media market in the world...major Ted Lasso vibes.

 

[Ten_Titans]

It’s not tricky at all. If you kill someone, you deserve a long prison sentence. Accidentally or purposefully. You took someone’s chance at a long and fulfilling life. You don’t deserve a slap on the wrist and only 5 years in prison. Your life goes on and there’s doesn’t.

That's just silly. The problem here isn't the accident, it's the purposeful negligence that led to the accident.

Car loses traction on ice and you kill someone. That's a slight amount of negligence for driving too fast or discounting the weather. Is that a life sentence also?

Handing out life sentences anytime someone dies regardless of circumstance isn't in the ball park of real justice.

 

[VolzMan53]

UK Forum is pretty entertaining.

I see why fans from other schools visit ours so regularly - Wildcat Lair - Football Forum

Entertainment

put a spin on one of their posts.....

You know why they don't teach sex ed and driver's ed on the same day in Kentucky ?




Too hard on the mule

 

[Devo182]

It’s early but potentially good news for this week: I asked specifically about Tiyon,… Cade…. Simmons and Theo and he said they were all full participants in practice today….. He also stated that he thinks everyone will be back this week.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Snit moved Ozzie down tonight, he deservers credit for that.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

It’s not tricky at all. If you kill someone, you deserve a long prison sentence. Accidentally or purposefully. You took someone’s chance at a long and fulfilling life. You don’t deserve a slap on the wrist and only 5 years in prison. Your life goes on and there’s doesn’t.

Just curious, but if it truly was accidental... how does potentially ruining two lives make sense to you? If a drunk pedestrian ran out in front of your car while you were innocently driving down the highway, do you honestly think you should serve 5 years in prison? And you'd be okay with that?

The trauma one would likely suffer might be penalty enough, but jmo.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Snit moved Ozzie down tonight, he deservers credit for that.

Rosier / Soler / Freeman……there is some pop in that order. Albies in a major slump ….. hate it for him. Can you imagine when Acuna comes back??

Good days ahead Brave Fans !!

 

[engineerVOL]

I guess it’s still a bye week for @nicksjuzunk …

 

[Devo182]

That's just silly. The problem here isn't the accident, it's the purposeful negligence that led to the accident.

Car loses traction on ice and you kill someone. That's a slight amount of negligence for driving too fast or discounting the weather. Is that a life sentence also?

Handing out life sentences anytime someone dies regardless of circumstance isn't in the ball park of real justice.

Yup, it's about public safety. Obviously the guy wasn't trying to kill anyone - but nor is anyone DUIing. But they're all a risk to society. Outside of that, it's mostly just bad or good luck.

Imo non-accident DUIs could deserve harsher penalties. And those in death accidents...probably don't need 10+ years. Those 2 groups should meet somewhere closer to the middle. Like shooting off a clip in a crowd and you hit absolutely no one vs killing 5. Mostly just luck. Any DUIer is capable of negligently killing anyone at any time. It comes down to negligence, not just probabilistic outcomes.

That said, sure there is justice too...even if accidental negligence...and that's why it would still be a harsher punishment ofc.