1 Oregon vs. California

[Nightowl]

Yea, the Ducks were definitely exposed, and I'm being serious.

The offense scored one TD, and that was after they were given a short field due to a Vareen(?) fumble. I don't know how, but Cal figured out Oregon's offense much like Ohio State did in January.

Last nights game shouldn't have been close. At all. Cal was starting an inexperienced QB who couldn't hit the side of a barn. They should've feasted on Mansion. And I can't attribute the poor play to playing at Cal. Ducks fans were there in mass and seemed to be just as loud as Cal fans at some points during the game.

I don't care about Chip going for two if he makes it. But going for it on 4th down on your side of the field is flat out retarded. I mean really, it doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. This is aint Madden.

Oregon was just bad last night. They were lucky to be playing Cal.

I'll agree that Oregon played awful. No doubt about that or any sense in denying it. But "exposed" is a bit drastic IMO. Look at last year's TN/Bama game... Bama played like ****. At home. Against a 7-5 UT squad. I think most on here would agree that TN could have and should have won that game.

The year before that, Florida lost at home to Ole Miss.

Before that, a 2-loss LSU team won the title and many of their wins (Auburn at home I remember in specific) were questionable.

Before that, 1-loss Florida won the title. They scraped out narrow home victories over over FSU and South Carolina, whom they beat by 1 and needed 2 blocked FG's and a missed PAT to get by.

Every NC team has scary games that shouldn't have been scary down the stretch. That was Oregon's. Now we get a week off before getting 'Zona in Autzen and going on the road to play Oregon State. I don't see us dropping a brick in Autzen (where we're unbeaten in conference since '08) or getting beat by a team that just loss at home to Wazzou.

 

[SEC Nightmare]

It seems like it has been the same few posters to me.



I don't know about greatest in history. But, they did play Oregon better than any other opponent this season. Better than Stanford and USC did. Should mean something.

All it means is that their defensive scheme works very well against Oregons offense. Nothing more nothing less.

Leave the transitive property out..

 

[IPorange]

I'd argue the program is going downhill. The fans don't get it. One actually argued this was one of the greatest performances in Cal history. Pathetic losers.

It's too bad. Cal is declining as Stanford is rising.

 

[wheaton4prez]

All it means is that their defensive scheme works very well against Oregons offense. Not more nothing less.

Leave the transitive property out..

I disagree. If that were all that it meant, the results would be the same regardless of which players executed the scheme.

Execution is a big part of defense.

 

[milohimself]

I had a feeling most of the season the Ducks and Bama would meet for the NCG. If Cal's 3-4 did that to Oregon's offense, Bama's would have Oregon's punter on the field every drive.

 

[wheaton4prez]

I had a feeling most of the season the Ducks and Bama would meet for the NCG. If Cal's 3-4 did that to Oregon's offense, Bama's would have Oregon's punter on the field every drive.

I doubt it. Not when South Carolina and LSU's offenses put up the numbers that they did.

I'm not sure how many more times Alabama has to lose before people will accept that they aren't what ESPN thought they were pre-season.

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On the topic of Cal's scheme being the only reason Oregon didn't score a lot of points against them:

Of Cal's scheme - the Bears used a 3-3-5 and kept a spy on Thomas the entire game - Kelly said it's been done, but usually by lesser defenses.

"People play that coverage a lot against us, and we scored 40, 50 points against it,'' Kelly said. "Cal's a good team defensively, a really good football team, and they showed that again on Saturday.''

Oregon football: Just 15 points? Computers, voters are not disappointed | OregonLive.com

 

[milohimself]

They're not, but they're still damned talented. Ain't nobody running the table when damn near every one of your conference opponents has a bye week before they play you.

 

[wheaton4prez]

They are still a great team. Agreed. Just not as invincible as many believed.

Despite the poor offense, Cal is statistically the best defense in the Pac-10. They changed coordinators for this season and it appears to have paid off. I think that Pendergast deserves some credit for this game. His D played lights out.

 

[SEC Nightmare]

I disagree. If that were all that it meant, the results would be the same regardless of which players executed the scheme.

Execution is a big part of defense.

Yes, but Cals defensive scheme is different than the ones Oregon has played thus far. Overall it's an Ok defense..but against Oregon its great

 

[SEC Nightmare]

They are still a great team. Agreed. Just not as invincible as many believed.

Despite the poor offense, Cal is statistically the best defense in the Pac-10. They changed coordinators for this season and it appears to have paid off. I think that Pendergast deserves some credit for this game. His D played lights out.

Those stats don't mean anything.. when they've played decent teams besides Oregon, they were blown out. Must I remind you that it was 42-0 at the half vs USC...and Nevada put up 52 on them...

 

[wheaton4prez]

Yes, but Cals defensive scheme is different than the ones Oregon has played thus far. Overall it's an Ok defense..but against Oregon its great

No it isn't. They ran 3-3-5 and spied Thomas. As Kelly notes in the quote I posted, lots of other teams have run that against Oregon and failed.

It wasn't the scheme that was different. It was how well it was executed that night.

Those stats don't mean anything.. when they've played decent teams besides Oregon, they were blown out. Must I remind you that it was 42-0 at the half vs USC...and Nevada put up 52 on them...

I didn't claim that Cal's D has been great in every game. They were great in the Oregon game and well enough in the rest to be ranked high in the conference.

What a team does in one game does not always reflect absolutely with what they do in other games. Teams have up and down games. That's football. Being caught off guard against Nevada and dropping one against USC with a new DC doesn't mean that they couldn't get it together and play up against the #1 ranked team at home.

Anyway, this is sounding familiar. It's no sweat off my back if you think the Ducks are "figured out" and over-rated. Ok. We'll see.

 

[lylsmorr]

Around the NCAA is turning into Duck Central. Might as well just change the name.

 

[milohimself]

They just don't have a decent forum of their own.

 

[lylsmorr]

So they congregate on VolNation. Sigh...

 

[lylsmorr]

Haven't seen many Oregon folks on here besides myself, wheaton, NightOwl and Bumi, I don't know what this talk of is of Oregon fans "coming out of the woodwork."

I always thought this was one of the better forums out there when it came to having fans from other schools aboard, hence the ability to tag up to three of your favorite teams.

Guess I was wrong. Who would have thought creating a game thread for Oregon-Cal and then discussing it would be so frowned upon?

Are you serious? There's portlanduck, duckntn, wezcoast, goducks439 and I'm probably missing even more. And at one point I'm pretty sure each one of them has been on here talking noise about UT or the fanbase. They all seem to mirror Chip Kelly - arrogant to the point of annoying.

 

[wheaton4prez]

Around the NCAA is turning into Duck Central. Might as well just change the name.

Yes. I can see that with the avalanche of 3 Oregon threads on the page, one of them being "Chip Kelly is douchebag".

Those 5 Duck fans are just swarming the place with their arrogance!

If you don't like it, skip the Oregon related threads. There are literally hundreds of other threads to choose from.

 

[lylsmorr]

Yes. I can see that with the avalanche of 3 Oregon threads on the page, one of them being "Chip Kelly is douchebag".

Those 5 Duck fans are just swarming the place with their arrogance!

If you don't like it, skip the Oregon related threads. There are literally hundreds of other threads to choose from.

Which threads do I log back in every day to see bumped up to the top of the page yet again? The Oregon threads. Who bumps them? Oregon fans. There has to be an Oregon board out there just for you all. I can't comprehend why you are on VolNation still. I've never had the urge to visit another team's board aside from one special occasion.

 

[Nightowl]

Which threads do I log back in every day to see bumped up to the top of the page yet again? The Oregon threads. Who bumps them? Oregon fans. There has to be an Oregon board out there just for you all. I can't comprehend why you are on VolNation still. I've never had the urge to visit another team's board aside from one special occasion.

Right now in the "Around the NCAA" Forum there are 3 Oregon threads. In which there are maybe 4 Duck fans posting. There are also 5 Auburn threads and 2 Boise State threads.

It's an "Around the NCAA" Forum on the site. Oregon right now, whether you like it or not, is in fact ranked #1 in all the polls and 10-0, which means that if your talking college football... there is going to be a lot of attention given to them no matter who you are with and where you are. That's how it works in CFB, year in and year out.

If those 3 Oregon threads are so annoying to you then simply click on another one of the approximately 50 or so threads... or go to the UT Football Forum where there are none. Heads up though... since we're in an Around the NCAA Forum alot of them don't discuss UT Football and may, horrifyingly enough, have fans from other schools in them.

I like college football. So I talk about it. UT, Oregon, Auburn, Boise, Pac-10, SEC, Big-10, Big-12, etc., etc.

 

[SEC Nightmare]

No it isn't. They ran 3-3-5 and spied Thomas. As Kelly notes in the quote I posted, lots of other teams have run that against Oregon and failed

Really? What teams have ran Cals same defense against Oregon and failed?

As a Duck fan it serves you to make Cal appear to be stronger than what they are because they could have beaten you. But they are not a good team by any means.

 

[SEC Nightmare]

It's an "Around the NCAA" Forum on the site. Oregon right now, whether you like it or not, is in fact ranked #1 in all the polls and 10-0, which means that if your talking college football... there is going to be a lot of attention given to them no matter who you are with and where you are. That's how it works in CFB, year in and year out.

What? LMAO..

Listen, I know your Ducks have never been ranked #1 in the BCS before, but can you guys get over yourselves for a minute? lol:

Im happy for you guys really I am...you may get a chance to pop your National title game cherry soon.
But I know for a fact that there wouldn't be this many Oregon threads in here if you Oregon fans weren't creating them. But thanks for letting us know that you guys are 10-0 and Ranked #1..if anything you're a great source of information.ost-4-1090547912:

 

[wheaton4prez]

Which threads do I log back in every day to see bumped up to the top of the page yet again? The Oregon threads. Who bumps them? Oregon fans. There has to be an Oregon board out there just for you all. I can't comprehend why you are on VolNation still. I've never had the urge to visit another team's board aside from one special occasion.

When you posted this comment, the thread was bumped by someone other than an Oregon poster.

Point being, a thread being bumped doesn't mean you don't know what the subject is or that you have to read it.

Really? What teams have ran Cals same defense against Oregon and failed?

According to Chip Kelly, several. I believe that he is in a pretty good position to know.

As a Duck fan it serves you to make Cal appear to be stronger than what they are because they could have beaten you. But they are not a good team by any means.

How does it serve me? In convincing you?

As I already pointed out, it's no sweat off my back that you think Oregon isn't any good. They are ranked #1 in the nation. I have no complaint.

 

[Nightowl]

What? LMAO..

Listen, I know your Ducks have never been ranked #1 in the BCS before, but can you guys get over yourselves for a minute? lol:

Im happy for you guys really I am...you may get a chance to pop your National title game cherry soon.
But I know for a fact that there wouldn't be this many Oregon threads in here if you Oregon fans weren't creating them. But thanks for letting us know that you guys are 10-0 and Ranked #1..if anything you're a great source of information.ost-4-1090547912:

Oh please, dude. Pointing our our rank wasn't the point I was trying to make and you know it.

5 years ago, how many Boise State threads would there be if they weren't a Top 25 team? 0. I've seen Bronco fans on here. Just like I've seen numerous other fans start numerous threads about their teams in this forum.

How many Auburn threads would there be if they didn't have Cam Newton and were let's say 6-5? 0. Maybe 1?

Go onto any board of any fan site. Plenty of Oregon threads. Why? Because they are high profile right now. That's just common sense.

I'm not bragging. But when your #1... You get attention. Turn on Sportscenter on a Saturday? Whats usually the first game they report on? Oregon's. I may be an Oregon homer in your eyes but I at least have the common sense to "get over myself" and realize that's because of the #1 next to their name and not the name itself.

If Louisiana Tech was #1... We'd see LA Tech threads and hear alot about those awesome Bulldogs.

You seem to be the only one who doesn't realize WHY there are lots of Oregon threads (and Auburn threads, #2... and Boise threads, #3 or 4 depending on who you ask.... notice a pattern yet?)

 

[SEC Nightmare]

When you posted this comment, the thread was bumped by someone other than an Oregon poster.

Point being, a thread being bumped doesn't mean you don't know what the subject is or that you have to read it.



According to Chip Kelly, several. I believe that he is in a pretty good position to know.



How does it serve me? In convincing you?

As I already pointed out, it's no sweat off my back that you think Oregon isn't any good. They are ranked #1 in the nation. I have no complaint.

So basically you don't know if Chip is talking about teams he's played this year or two years ago right?

And if you can find me saying at any given time that Oregon isn't any good, I'll shut the hell up right now.

 

[SEC Nightmare]

Oh please, dude. Pointing our our rank wasn't the point I was trying to make and you know it.

5 years ago, how many Boise State threads would there be if they weren't a Top 25 team? 0. I've seen Bronco fans on here. Just like I've seen numerous other fans start numerous threads about their teams in this forum.

How many Auburn threads would there be if they didn't have Cam Newton and were let's say 6-5? 0. Maybe 1?

Go onto any board of any fan site. Plenty of Oregon threads. Why? Because they are high profile right now. That's just common sense.

I'm not bragging. But when your #1... You get attention. Turn on Sportscenter on a Saturday? Whats usually the first game they report on? Oregon's. I may be an Oregon homer in your eyes but I at least have the common sense to "get over myself" and realize that's because of the #1 next to their name and not the name itself.

If Louisiana Tech was #1... We'd see LA Tech threads and hear alot about those awesome Bulldogs.

You seem to be the only one who doesn't realize WHY there are lots of Oregon threads (and Auburn threads, #2... and Boise threads, #3 or 4 depending on who you ask.... notice a pattern yet?)

No I didn't notice because there aren't a bunch of Auburn and Boise fans starting these threads. For every 5 Boise fans here, we might get 1 thread. For every 5 Oregon fans we have here, we get 5 threads. Notice a pattern yet?

 

[lylsmorr]

No I didn't notice because there aren't a bunch of Auburn and Boise fans starting these threads. For every 5 Boise fans here, we might get 1 thread. For every 5 Oregon fans we have here, we get 5 threads. Notice a pattern yet?

There's only 1 guy talking about Boise and that's the Bandwagon UT/Boise fan. These guys still don't see.