'10 FL K Michael Palardy

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Rich Basaccia the Special Teams Coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs has been hired by UT as the new RB/ST Coach. His Bucs' special teams ran a punt back for a TD and blocked a FG today against the Saints. Not bad...
 
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Why does he only have 4 stars? I thought he was one of the best kickers in the country? He needs 5! Haha
 
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Below is Mike Farrell's response basically saying why kickers don't get more than three stars. When reading through the thread, and taking it into context it seamed like he thinks that kickers are irrelevant compared to others. I'm not sure I agree with giving them same stars as qbs and rbs and such, but when he said that I lost the little respect I had for him to begin with. What a joke of an evaluator. Thats why people have to take rankings with a grain of salt cause you have jokers like this guy evaluating. Plus its knows he's super bias. TIFWIW


Originally posted by AlphaSlag:
IMO, the best K/P should get the same star consideration that the best QB and other positions get.

Also, when are you guys going to realize that Punting and Kicking are two seperate positions?
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Kickers participate in about 8-10 plays per game and most of those are extra points or kickoffs. That pales in comparison to guys who get hit, take every down punishment and are in on 50-60% of plays. No way a kicker deserves a ranking of a quarterback, please.

Mike Farrell
 
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Except kickers are almost always the leading scorers on their teams, have a huge impact on field position, and decide games pretty routinely.

You don't have to put them in the top 250 or whatever if they don't want, but at least give kickers the possibility of getting 4 or 5 stars.
 
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He does have a good point, but at the same time, for him to completely dismiss that notion is such a pompous manner was is ridiculous.

The fact is that for a good majority of the kickers, he is right. There are going to be exceptions. A leg like MP's is a game changer. He is arguably as dangerous as a 4* ATH because he can score points, change field position via his punts, and can neutralize an effective return man by kicking it out of the endzone.

After this weekends UA game, the fact that that Rivals has Parkey ranked ahead of Palardy is proof enough to me that they have zero capabilities and interest in evaluating and ranking kickers. IMO, there are at least 3 kickers in the state of TN that are better than the Parkey kid.
 
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volguy0992 said:
Below is Mike Farrell's response basically saying why kickers don't get more than three stars. When reading through the thread, and taking it into context it seamed like he thinks that kickers are irrelevant compared to others. I'm not sure I agree with giving them same stars as qbs and rbs and such, but when he said that I lost the little respect I had for him to begin with. What a joke of an evaluator. Thats why people have to take rankings with a grain of salt cause you have jokers like this guy evaluating. Plus its knows he's super bias. TIFWIW


Originally posted by AlphaSlag:
IMO, the best K/P should get the same star consideration that the best QB and other positions get.

Also, when are you guys going to realize that Punting and Kicking are two seperate positions?
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Kickers participate in about 8-10 plays per game and most of those are extra points or kickoffs. That pales in comparison to guys who get hit, take every down punishment and are in on 50-60% of plays. No way a kicker deserves a ranking of a quarterback, please.

Mike Farrell
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Tell the team from East Carolina that! You think it doesn't make a difference? Go back and take a look just in bowl games how important kickers and punters were. The whole damn game is about field position and good ones give your D a chance to get you good FP in return or the O the opportunity to get points when those QB, RB, and WR can't score! Just ask the teams that don't have a good one whether they count or not...at best, not a very thoughtful comment. Who cares about the * rankings. You can't put *s on a good special teams leader.
 
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GoVols2003 said:
He does have a good point, but at the same time, for him to completely dismiss that notion is such a pompous manner was is ridiculous.

The fact is that for a good majority of the kickers, he is right. There are going to be exceptions. A leg like MP's is a game changer. He is arguably as dangerous as a 4* ATH because he can score points, change field position via his punts, and can neutralize an effective return man by kicking it out of the endzone.

After this weekends UA game, the fact that that Rivals has Parkey ranked ahead of Palardy is proof enough to me that they have zero capabilities and interest in evaluating and ranking kickers. IMO, there are at least 3 kickers in the state of TN that are better than the Parkey kid.
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Your are close GOVOLS...they want to rank their kickers. There are many kickers that spend thousands of dollars to attend these instructional camps and get little or no instruction to improve their skills, some don't even train the athletes that attend, they just put them out there and let them continue to do whatever they where doing, right or wrong, before they came, yet they are given a ranking so the "end will justify the means". I've seen it happen. This is a business for them and a very small clique of those that run those national camps that get to influence those rankings...ESPN is going to rank their guys...politics. Be careful how much stock you put in the * rankings. Talent is talent, and those kids will always be talented, but there are those that have intangible qualities that make them better than those with "all the talent". Those are the guys that will work hard, not call attention to themselves, and show up every day with 100%...coaches know who they are, but no one in the press talks about them. But I bloviate...
 
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daddyvol said:
Your are close GOVOLS...they want to rank their kickers. There are many kickers that spend thousands of dollars to attend these instructional camps and get little or no instruction to improve their skills, some don't even train the athletes that attend, they just put them out there and let them continue to do whatever they where doing, right or wrong, before they came, yet they are given a ranking so the "end will justify the means". I've seen it happen. This is a business for them and a very small clique of those that run those national camps that get to influence those rankings...ESPN is going to rank their guys...politics. Be careful how much stock you put in the * rankings. Talent is talent, and those kids will always be talented, but there are those that have intangible qualities that make them better than those with "all the talent". Those are the guys that will work hard, not call attention to themselves, and show up every day with 100%...coaches know who they are, but no one in the press talks about them. But I bloviate...
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daddyvol, I get the feeling that you might have been one of those parents that spent thousands of dollars?
 
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bburger991 said:
Except kickers are almost always the leading scorers on their teams, have a huge impact on field position, and decide games pretty routinely.
You don't have to put them in the top 250 or whatever if they don't want, but at least give kickers the possibility of getting 4 or 5 stars.
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good post. i was also under the assumption that star rankings were determined by your performance at the postion you play, not by how you compare to QBs or any other high profile position.
 
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If they go by the same thing, then RBs and Safeties shouldn't be ranked really highly at all since they're probably the least important and most replaceable positions on each side of the ball.
 
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Farrell's comments are indicative of the attitude that some football "purists" have regarding kickers; they have no place in the game.

Their job descriptions are drastically different than any other player, but that doesn't lessen the impact that they can have on the game. They may only be on the field 8-10 plays, but they are, by far, the most important player on the field during those plays.

Just because a kicker doesn't hit people doesn't mean its he's not important. You can bellyache all you want about how the kicking game needs to be abolished because the hopes and dreams of so many behemoth gladiators often weigh on a skinny former soccer player's leg, but that's a different argument. As long as kickers continue to routinely decide the outcome of games, the best ones should have the opportunity to be graded at the highest levels.
 
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Not sure if it was mentioned, but ambles is the holder for palardy per Coach Conrad, and they had no kicking equipment (tee's, holders, ect.) so he was forced to kick off a 1970's orange tee haha. Still boomed the ball haha.
 
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Confirmed. I spoke to Conrad and Palardy's parents are bringing out his kicking block when they leave to San Antonio on Wed. Wait till you see the difference. He also said that it is extremely cold, hard ball, and extremely windy, and kicking into the wind. Ball blows off tee and those tees were designed for straight on kickers in the 60's and 70's.
 
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Palardy nailed a 50-yarder and Foster missed on the follow up, giving the East the victory in the first competition of the day. AA Game Skills Comp.
 
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Palardy has a blocked FG and block extra point in the AA game... is this kind of disturbing considering UT's kicking struggles? On Palardy's defense it look like it was a O-line breakdown both times, but it still raises an eyebrow or 2!
 
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BigOrangeArsenal said:
Palardy has a blocked FG and block extra point in the AA game... is this kind of disturbing considering UT's kicking struggles? On Palardy's defense it look like it was a O-line breakdown both times, but it still raises an eyebrow or 2!
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Yeah, Palardy should have blocked all those D/L coming through the line before he made the kick attemp.:jpshakehead:
 
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BigOrangeArsenal said:
Palardy has a blocked FG and block extra point in the AA game... is this kind of disturbing considering UT's kicking struggles? On Palardy's defense it look like it was a O-line breakdown both times, but it still raises an eyebrow or 2!
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Was this your 1st football game?
 
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The O-line clearly got smacked around on those kick attempts...Starting with the gloom and doom stuff is childish..Palardy is the real deal...don't worry
 
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Let the guy have his opinion. Palardy didn't get to wow anyone like we thought he would. Having more kicks blocked is a legitimate concern for UT fans. Hopefully he can put our minds at ease when he gets on campus!
 
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