'10 OK ATH Demarco Cobbs

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so smooth and so fluid. the guy just flies. i dont know about the physical side to their game but ambles looks more long and lanky and cobbs is built more like a rock. just from looking at their at their physical stature, cobbs looks more able to use his strength to beat jams. some guys dont need to be that strong though, ambles may be quick and athletic enough to separate from guys. i saw a little bit of that in 1 on 1's at that army all american thing from him
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
He'll need 2 years to develop his skill set at WR if that's what he comes to school to be. Plus, if he had 2 years under his belt with the S&C program, he would be a dangerous weapon. Milton is in the same boat, IMO. Ambles is the only one we have right now that would be in direct competition with anyone we would sign this year or that is currently on the team, IMO. He's a difference maker now, the other two aren't there just yet. Milton looks great, but he's playing against HS competition and being 6-6 has it's advantages. Cobbs is a good/great prospect, but not elite in my book.
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Uh....arent all recruits? Thats not sound "resoning" for a player not being prepared for College ball, IMO.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
"If you want to draw up the text book receiver from a physical standpoint, then Demarco Cobbs is that player." - Jeremy Crabtree

USC Camp: DeMarco Cobbs - Rivals.com Video
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This is all my opinion Sab. I don't agree with a lot of people, and that makes me unique on a lot of things. I'm right about some wrong about others. It doesn't hurt me that Jeremy Crabtree sees things differently than I do.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
He'll need 2 years to develop his skill set at WR if that's what he comes to school to be. Plus, if he had 2 years under his belt with the S&C program, he would be a dangerous weapon. Milton is in the same boat, IMO. Ambles is the only one we have right now that would be in direct competition with anyone we would sign this year or that is currently on the team, IMO. He's a difference maker now, the other two aren't there just yet. Milton looks great, but he's playing against HS competition and being 6-6 has it's advantages. Cobbs is a good/great prospect, but not elite in my book.
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If anything I think Cobbs could come in and play from Day 1 and Ambles would need a year to bulk up. Physically Ambles is no where close to being able to play in the SEC right now whereas Cobbs is physical enough and already big enough to contribute ASAP IMO.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
He'll need 2 years to develop his skill set at WR if that's what he comes to school to be. Plus, if he had 2 years under his belt with the S&C program, he would be a dangerous weapon. Milton is in the same boat, IMO. Ambles is the only one we have right now that would be in direct competition with anyone we would sign this year or that is currently on the team, IMO. He's a difference maker now, the other two aren't there just yet. Milton looks great, but he's playing against HS competition and being 6-6 has it's advantages. Cobbs is a good/great prospect, but not elite in my book.
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Now you're changing your argument again. I can't keep up. I thought Prater wasn't coming here anyway so what does it matter?

You're right about one thing, Prater isn't coming here. Cobbs is almost a certainty at this point and that will push us down Prater's list almost certainly.
 
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jmva1 said:
If anything I think Cobbs could come in and play from Day 1 and Ambles would need a year to bulk up. Physically Ambles is no where close to being able to play in the SEC right now whereas Cobbs is physical enough and already big enough to contribute ASAP IMO.
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I agree with this.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
This is all my opinion Sab. I don't agree with a lot of people, and that makes me unique on a lot of things. I'm right about some wrong about others. It doesn't hurt me that Jeremy Crabtree sees things differently than I do.
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It's not just Jeremy Crabtree, Eric. It's what everyone who knows anything has said about Cobbs and you tried to make me look like a jackass for saying it.

You are the first person I have heard that actually says that Cobbs isn't physical enough or ready physically to play WR. Probably because that isn't the case.
 
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BuckeyeVols said:
Uh....arent all recruits? Thats not sound "resoning" for a player not being prepared for College ball, IMO.
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I'm saying that Milton's size will be used against him in college because he's not used to breaking a lot of jams off the line. He's got to get some good weight on his frame when he gets here to be effective.
 
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jmva1 said:
If anything I think Cobbs could come in and play from Day 1 and Ambles would need a year to bulk up. Physically Ambles is no where close to being able to play in the SEC right now whereas Cobbs is physical enough and already big enough to contribute ASAP IMO.
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ya but look at little nukie. hes tiny, a lot smaller than ambles and he'll probably contribute right away even if it is just on special teams. not arguing with you and sab, i agree with you guys on this one.
 
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I think a large reason why Nuke is getting so much playing time early is that we are very thin at the position. Without injuries i don't think he would getting nearly as many touches as he is getting now at WR. Same goes for Teague.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
It's not just Jeremy Crabtree, Eric. It's what everyone who knows anything has said about Cobbs and you tried to make me look like a jackass for saying it.

You are the first person I have heard that actually says that Cobbs isn't physical enough or ready physically to play WR. Probably because that isn't the case.
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I form my own opinions and let the experts have theirs because a lot of their opinions have been wrong based on hype alone.
 
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Hey Sab, after watching the AMP video that you previously posted about Cobbs.....is it just me, or does he look EXTREMELY slow/tentative coming out of his breaks on routes?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I form my own opinions and let the experts have theirs because a lot of their opinions have been wrong based on hype alone.
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There hasn't been a lot of "hype" around Demarco Cobbs as a WR. More grit and determination to prove himself. They are basing their opinions on personal evaluations of him -- not hype.
 
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jmva1 said:
I think a large reason why Nuke is getting so much playing time early is that we are very thin at the position. Without injuries i don't think he would getting nearly as many touches as he is getting now at WR. Same goes for Teague.
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Oh yeah he would. He's a difference maker with his speed and field vision. That's why Florida was so pissed we took him.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I'm saying that Milton's size will be used against him in college because he's not used to breaking a lot of jams off the line. He's got to get some good weight on his frame when he gets here to be effective.
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No high school WR is "used to" breaking jams off the line.... bump and run coverage is pretty much non-existent in high school defenses.....especially when the other team has what is considered an elite WR. If anything, Miltons height will help him get off press coverage. Its not like he is built really skinny.....he has descent weight on him, and still has a year+ to grow.
 
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BuckeyeVols said:
Hey Sab, after watching the AMP video that you previously posted about Cobbs.....is it just me, or does he look EXTREMELY slow/tentative coming out of his breaks on routes?
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Yes, he does. I think that's more a result of having to think about what he's going to do because it's an unfamiliar position than anything. I have been saying for awhile that Cobbs could very well end up at safety. I still believe that's a possibility. But right now he's being told that he's going to be a WR.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Oh yeah he would. He's a difference maker with his speed and field vision. That's why Florida was so pissed we took him.
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I thought they were a lot higher on DeBose? Wasnt one of the main reasons Nuke flipped because UF wasnt "showing him the love" towards the end?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Oh yeah he would. He's a difference maker with his speed and field vision. That's why Florida was so pissed we took him.
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I'm not doubting that he wouldnt get touches early, but due to the injuries i think he'll get a lot more early touches in the season than if all our WRs were healthy. If we didn't have all the injuries, I think we would be used similarly to how Fulmer used Jonathan Wade as a freshman, but with more touches.
 
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BuckeyeVols said:
Hey Sab, after watching the AMP video that you previously posted about Cobbs.....is it just me, or does he look EXTREMELY slow/tentative coming out of his breaks on routes?
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i watched it after you posted this and ya i could see that. sometimes its hard to tell from a camera and from far away. some guys are deceptive with how fast they are and they kinda glide. it may look like their moving slow but you may not be able to appreciate the speed unless your up close and personal. lets hope its that.
 
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