10 year show cause/NCAA, Tyndall discussion (merged)

[Thunder Good-Oil]

My main gripe was that it took so long for the NCAA to render its final verdict. I wonder what took so long??

I can now move on, knowing that justice has been done. Hate that it had to come to this and I wish him and his family the best, moving forward.

It's now time for UT basketball to right the ship and get back to having a year-in and year-out competitive program. Still don't know if CRB can get the job done here and will take a wait and see attitude until he proves that he can.

BuzzDrill said on April 10th that he "can now move on".

 

[whobethis16]

BuzzDrill said on April 10th that he "can now move on".

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[vol66]

We aren't talking about one paper, we are talking about a business operation. It's coming folks!
"NCAA says in court filing it'll pay at rate of $100,000 per yr for bond needed to keep fighting $42.3M atty fee/cost award in O'Bannon case." This is the case referred to in which the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear the NCAA's appeal.
Supreme Court rejects NCAA appeal of O'Bannon case - KFDA - NewsChannel 10 / Amarillo News, Weather, Sports

Huh...not only did the Supreme Court say that it wouldn't hear the NCAA's appeal, they also rejected O'Bannon. They also rejected a bunch of other cases that also have nothing to do with Chaz Bono's decade long show cause.

So What?

OHHHHHHHHHHHH, I get it...the money involved in the giant NCAA conspiracy...well of course they are going to spend whatever it takes to try to maintain what they call amateurism.

Again, So What?

What does any of that have to do with grown ass men using their mothers to lie, cheat, plagiarize, interfere with an investigation, for the sole purpose of getting players on HIS team to win basketball games?

 

[calban]

BuzzDrill said on April 10th that he "can now move on".

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[VolsSportsFan]

BuzzDrill said on April 10th that he "can now move on".

He said he can; never said he actually would though.

Much like his idol, he has a problem with the truth.

 

[vols 30]

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Lmao

 

[buzz4tennessee]

On April 10th the NCAA COI ruled that Tyndall was guilty of academic fraud and gave him a 10-year show-cause. I failed to realize that the appellate process was still available and I am still waiting to see how the committee appointed to hear the appeal will or has ruled. Also, if the committee upholds the COI ruling then there is still the federal court system. Also, I don't believe that any fair judge or jury would, with true conscience, convict anyone on the word of a proven liar, especially if that liar had been promised immunity to lie!

I don't know where all that crap about Morehead St came from. I'd like to see a link to verify everything that was said there. The only thing that I am aware of at Morehead was the booster buying a plane ticket for the parent of a bb player to attend a postseason tournament, and she paid the booster back. To my knowledge, the booster did not ok his action with Morehead, but bc he was close to the coaching staff, the NCAA gave the school a class 3 infraction and penalized them one scholarship. Tyndall was given NO PENALTY!

I can keep asking this question but I know that there is no one here who has the foggiest idea where in the NOA there is conclusive proof that Tyndall knew anything about the academic fraud at S Miss. It may seem as though the events that occurred in November 2014 look suspicious. Does someone have a tape of any of the calls that were made during that time? Does anyone have a provable document that shows what was said in any of the text messages? I believe that all of you will say "no" to both of those questions.

Personal mail, whether it be through the U. S. Post Office or electronically sent, is private, unless it is to cause felonious results. This is why there is a Dept. of Homeland Security. I defend CDT's right to delete anything that he considers personal just like I would for anyone else on this website.

The main reason so many of you are butt-hurt is bc we did not have an above .500 record and missed the postseason for the first time in almost a decade. You also probably thought Kevin Durant was gonna be our new starting man in the middle. Never gonna happen!

The coach we had in 2014-2015 inspired a last minute "put together" squad to give our team 3 come from behind wins that were as exciting as the last 2 in fb against FL and GA.

 

[SeniorDrill]

That has absolutely nothing to do with anything that has been said.

I was referring to your claim that the USM tennis team was hit because of academics, which is not accurate. The main part that they were hit with was because the coach offered a player $5k and a car, not the paper that was written for a player.

God, you bring in all these other stupid stories into your argument and can't even keep them straight.

In regards to this, it has absolutely nothing to do with recruiting violations. Do you even read the crap you post? This article is about the use of likeness. Not paying players or getting someone else take their classes. Holy ****, you really have lost your mind.

It's sad that some folks are incapable of simple correlations. It distorts their thought process.
On the other front,The NCAA, according to its public report, found that two former tennis coaches at the school offered a player $5,000 and a car to remain at Southern Miss instead of transferring. The former head coach, Teddy Viator, had also offered $200 to a player to win a match in which he was trailing and organized an illegal foreign tour to the Bahamas in 2008. He was also cited for academic misconduct, arranging for a student-athlete at the school to write a paper for one of his players.

 

[SeniorDrill]

On April 10th the NCAA COI ruled that Tyndall was guilty of academic fraud and gave him a 10-year show-cause. I failed to realize that the appellate process was still available and I am still waiting to see how the committee appointed to hear the appeal will or has ruled. Also, if the committee upholds the COI ruling then there is still the federal court system. Also, I don't believe that any fair judge or jury would, with true conscience, convict anyone on the word of a proven liar, especially if that liar had been promised immunity to lie!

I don't know where all that crap about Morehead St came from. I'd like to see a link to verify everything that was said there. The only thing that I am aware of at Morehead was the booster buying a plane ticket for the parent of a bb player to attend a postseason tournament, and she paid the booster back. To my knowledge, the booster did not ok his action with Morehead, but bc he was close to the coaching staff, the NCAA gave the school a class 3 infraction and penalized them one scholarship. Tyndall was given NO PENALTY!

I can keep asking this question but I know that there is no one here who has the foggiest idea where in the NOA there is conclusive proof that Tyndall knew anything about the academic fraud at S Miss. It may seem as though the events that occurred in November 2014 look suspicious. Does someone have a tape of any of the calls that were made during that time? Does anyone have a provable document that shows what was said in any of the text messages? I believe that all of you will say "no" to both of those questions.

Personal mail, whether it be through the U. S. Post Office or electronically sent, is private, unless it is to cause felonious results. This is why there is a Dept. of Homeland Security. I defend CDT's right to delete anything that he considers personal just like I would for anyone else on this website.

The main reason so many of you are butt-hurt is bc we did not have an above .500 record and missed the postseason for the first time in almost a decade. You also probably thought Kevin Durant was gonna be our new starting man in the middle. Never gonna happen!

The coach we had in 2014-2015 inspired a last minute "put together" squad to give our team 3 come from behind wins that were as exciting as the last 2 in fb against FL and GA.

During the initial months of the staff’s tenure at USM, Five assistants (yes five) devised a plan to assist prospective student-athletes (recruits or prospects) who needed academic support. Each assistant handled the academic affairs of the individual prospective student-athletes they recruited. With the exception of one they testified that Donnie Tyndall possessed no knowledge of the assistant coaches’ plans to improperly assist prospective student-athletes. HE WAS NOT THAT STUPID!!!!

This was a business termed Academic Fraud, Inc. being conducted nationwide and the NCAA hid that from the Tyndall defense team solely to protect themselves. Corruption at its finest. They submitted the exact same paperwork for a student at Northern Colorado that they had used at Southern Miss for a course completion. They immunized the CEO of the business. Folks at SMU were also involved at the immunized one is now an assistant coach working for the former SM AD at another university. You can't make this stuff up!!!! No wonder 60 Minutes wanted the story.

The NCAA had only one goal, protect themselves from the fact they had provided false information to Dave Hart and the University of Tennessee and Tyndall was fired based on their error.

 

[whobethis16]

It's sad that some folks are incapable of simple correlations. It distorts their thought process.
On the other front,The NCAA, according to its public report, found that two former tennis coaches at the school offered a player $5,000 and a car to remain at Southern Miss instead of transferring. The former head coach, Teddy Viator, had also offered $200 to a player to win a match in which he was trailing and organized an illegal foreign tour to the Bahamas in 2008. He was also cited for academic misconduct, arranging for a student-athlete at the school to write a paper for one of his players.

And your reading comprehension is absolutely terrible. I acknowledged that by saying that the bulk of the issues was with the money, not the ONE PAPER (that you so conveniently bolded) that was mentioned. Of all the infractions in that long thing you just posted, the $5000 and a car is a bit bigger than 1 paper. Which is what I said.

 

[whobethis16]

During the initial months of the staff’s tenure at USM, Five assistants (yes five) devised a plan to assist prospective student-athletes (recruits or prospects) who needed academic support. Each assistant handled the academic affairs of the individual prospective student-athletes they recruited. With the exception of one they testified that Donnie Tyndall possessed no knowledge of the assistant coaches’ plans to improperly assist prospective student-athletes. HE WAS NOT THAT STUPID!!!!

This was a business termed Academic Fraud, Inc. being conducted nationwide and the NCAA hid that from the Tyndall defense team solely to protect themselves. Corruption at its finest. They submitted the exact same paperwork for a student at Northern Colorado that they had used at Southern Miss for a course completion. They immunized the CEO of the business. Folks at SMU were also involved at the immunized one is now an assistant coach working for the former SM AD at another university. You can't make this stuff up!!!! No wonder 60 Minutes wanted the story.

The NCAA had only one goal, protect themselves from the fact they had provided false information to Dave Hart and the University of Tennessee and Tyndall was fired based on their error.

Obviously he was, or was completely negligent of it. Either way, whether he was negligent or had no clue, he is unfit to be a head coach because he has no control over his program.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Funny how at the beginning of this thread the board was fairly supportive of Donnie and united in the loathing of the NCAA. But after all of the condescending, vile posts of BuzzDrill just about all other posters no longer give a **** about Butterbean Tyndall and most will be happy if the 10 year show cause remains intact.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Funny how at the beginning of this thread the board was fairly supportive of Donnie and united in the loathing of the NCAA. But after all of the condescending, vile posts of BuzzDrill just about all other posters no longer give a **** about Butterbean Tyndall and most will be happy if the 10 year show cause remains intact.

Well that and the more it's discussed, the more it's realized how guilty he really is.

SeniorBuzz is wanting a full pardon; that's the part literally no one else agrees with. Everyone else at best thinks they shoud knock off maybe half, but he still deserves a lengthy show cause.

He doesn't get that he and his other personality are the only ones that actually give two craps about Tyndall's future.

 

[SeniorDrill]

And your reading comprehension is absolutely terrible. I acknowledged that by saying that the bulk of the issues was with the money, not the ONE PAPER (that you so conveniently bolded) that was mentioned. Of all the infractions in that long thing you just posted, the $5000 and a car is a bit bigger than 1 paper. Which is what I said.

The point is the NCAA was on campus investigating the tennis team the entire time Tyndall was there almost the entire first year. Don't you get that simple fact?

 

[SeniorDrill]

Funny how at the beginning of this thread the board was fairly supportive of Donnie and united in the loathing of the NCAA. But after all of the condescending, vile posts of BuzzDrill just about all other posters no longer give a **** about Butterbean Tyndall and most will be happy if the 10 year show cause remains intact.

I guess you'll be happy if Dave Hart and the University of Tennessee are going to be dragged into federal court by the NCAA for colluding with them in violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act. It happened. Not only did UT collude with the NCAA but also did Southern Miss. Guess what, the O'Bannon case mentioned previously was what, violation of federal antitrust laws. You really don't want this to go there, my friend!!
Don Jackson tweet yesterday, "Ole Miss Women's Basketball HC-2 year show cause for academic fraud. Donnie Tyndall-10.5 year suspension/show cause.#NCAA ambush."

 

[Ace]

:horse:

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I guess you'll be happy if Dave Hart and the University of Tennessee are going to be dragged into federal court by the NCAA for colluding with them in violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act. It happened. Not only did UT collude with the NCAA but also did Southern Miss. Guess what, the O'Bannon case mentioned previously was what, violation of federal antitrust laws. You really don't want this to go there, my friend!!
Don Jackson tweet yesterday, "Ole Miss Women's Basketball HC-2 year show cause for academic fraud. Donnie Tyndall-10.5 year suspension/show cause.#NCAA ambush."

 

[vol66]

I guess you'll be happy if Dave Hart and the University of Tennessee are going to be dragged into federal court by the NCAA for colluding with them in violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act. It happened. Not only did UT collude with the NCAA but also did Southern Miss. Guess what, the O'Bannon case mentioned previously was what, violation of federal antitrust laws. You really don't want this to go there, my friend!!
Don Jackson tweet yesterday, "Ole Miss Women's Basketball HC-2 year show cause for academic fraud. Donnie Tyndall-10.5 year suspension/show cause.#NCAA ambush."

I'd be uber happy to see this happen because all these folks would have to testify under oath rather than not cooperating at the risk of perjury. You think the Tyndall family is embarrassed now, lol...just wait.

Of course that will never happen.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I'd be uber happy to see this happen because all these folks would have to testify under oath rather than not cooperating at the risk of perjury. You think the Tyndall family is embarrassed now, lol...just wait.

Of course that will never happen.

He doesn't really think these things through, does he?

 

[calban]

I guess you'll be happy if Dave Hart and the University of Tennessee are going to be dragged into federal court by the NCAA for colluding with them in violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act. It happened. Not only did UT collude with the NCAA but also did Southern Miss. Guess what, the O'Bannon case mentioned previously was what, violation of federal antitrust laws. You really don't want this to go there, my friend!!
Don Jackson tweet yesterday, "Ole Miss Women's Basketball HC-2 year show cause for academic fraud. Donnie Tyndall-10.5 year suspension/show cause.#NCAA ambush."

Your conspiracy theories won't even get a look if it goes federal.
You could be Jackson's only witness. His dream or yours?

 

[508mikey]

I guess you'll be happy if Dave Hart and the University of Tennessee are going to be dragged into federal court by the NCAA for colluding with them in violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act. It happened. Not only did UT collude with the NCAA but also did Southern Miss. Guess what, the O'Bannon case mentioned previously was what, violation of federal antitrust laws. You really don't want this to go there, my friend!!
Don Jackson tweet yesterday, "Ole Miss Women's Basketball HC-2 year show cause for academic fraud. Donnie Tyndall-10.5 year suspension/show cause.#NCAA ambush."

Was the Ole Miss coach a repeat offender ?

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

What did Pearl get, 3 years? I think that Donnie should be getting 4 or 5, but not 10. Donnie getting 10 while Roy and Boheim get their nose smacked with a rolled up newspaper is ridiculous... but more so on the leniency given to the blue bloods rather than the hammer coming down on Donnie. Donnie's seems about right but there need to be more penalties like that handed down to EVERY cheater.

 

[vol66]

He doesn't really think these things through, does he?

It doesn't seem like it. Think about how much money Tennessee has spent to stay out of court recently, think about how much money the NCAA spends trying to stay out of court, think about both sides in this "case" deposing all of these witnesses almost all of which lost their jobs or had to move on as players, what kind of mood will those folks be in.

Mr. Tyndall needs to get on with his life like Pearl did, admit the mistake and move on.

I don't care one way or the other if he chooses to spend the next few years of his life throwing the school that took a chance on him under the bus. He won't be coaching college basketball and he shouldn't be.


GBO!!!

 

[VolsSportsFan]

It doesn't seem like it. Think about how much money Tennessee has spent to stay out of court recently, think about how much money the NCAA spends trying to stay out of court, think about both sides in this "case" deposing all of these witnesses almost all of which lost their jobs or had to move on as players, what kind of mood will those folks be in.

Mr. Tyndall needs to get on with his life like Pearl did, admit the mistake and move on.

I don't care one way or the other if he chooses to spend the next few years of his life throwing the school that took a chance on him under the bus. He won't be coaching college basketball and he shouldn't be.


GBO!!!

He also keeps acting like this is building to some ground breaking case, yet this is literally the only place I hear anything about it.

If it was even remotely as potentially big as SeniorBuzz keeps acting like it is, we would be hearing about it everywhere. Yet...not a peep.

 

[SeniorDrill]

Gonna make it real simple for you. When Hart went to the NCAA and they gave him false info that resulted in his firing and then in effect ended his career they violated the Sherman Antitrust Act. Had they not ended his career they could probably slide. Humongous difference.