'11 FL RB Andrew Buie

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tvols75 said:
I tend to go based on what the coaching staff told him once they offered him and accepted his commitment. And that was that they loved his versatility and would contribute in the return game, in the slot, and at RB. Yes, the staff took DY over Buie. We aren't getting Buie, deal with it.
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why are we re-recruiting him then?
 
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I do think DY sealed Buie's fate here awhile back but the fact that they're still looking for another speed back makes me think that they could possibly start pursuing Buie harder now since it's becoming slim pickins'. Buie would be a hell of a get IMO.
 
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i guarantee you are correct that we don't get everybody coming in, but why would we let them come on a visit if we weren't recruiting them? what if we wow this guy and marlin lane and they both decide to commit, then what happens to DY?
 
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tvols75 said:
I tend to go based on what the coaching staff told him once they offered him and accepted his commitment. And that was that they loved his versatility and would contribute in the return game, in the slot, and at RB. Yes, the staff took DY over Buie. We aren't getting Buie, deal with it.
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I should also add that it has been Devrin's lifelong dream to suit up for the Volunteers. If you were the coach, bowlinggreenvol, would you suddenly take that dream from him in favor of a kid who is ranked higher than him on paper??
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Ravenheart said:
I should also add that it has been Devrin's lifelong dream to suit up for the Volunteers. If you were the coach, bowlinggreenvol, would you suddenly take that dream from him in favor of a kid who is ranked higher than him on paper??
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who's to say he's not a better player?
 
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Buie is the better prospect than DY and that's not based on stars it's based on their offer lists. Buie is not just a return specialist like DY, Buie can be that speed back for us. Also I don't think the staff chose DY over Buie. I don't ever remember Buie being close to committing to us and the staff backing off for DY. I think the staff took DY because we didn't know for sure we could land Buie and DY was willing to commit on the spot.
 
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Ravenheart said:
I should also add that it has been Devrin's lifelong dream to suit up for the Volunteers. If you were the coach, bowlinggreenvol, would you suddenly take that dream from him in favor of a kid who is ranked higher than him on paper??
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More than few coaches around the country think Buie is better than DY. Also I understand it's his dream to be a vol, he can still be a vol by grey shirting if needed. There are a lot of kids that dream about playing for UT that don't ever get the chance.
 
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GoBigOrange_2309 said:
who's to say he's not a better player?
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Noted.
But for now, let's just assume, for argument's sake, that neither of them have highlight film tapes to show the world. All we have are the recruiting services and raw evaluations, not to mention their opinions on Tennessee as a school and its football program. :hi:
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I think that Tom Smith and Devrin Young are solids with Dooley. Buie might be a good get for us, still. Lane is regarded more highly by some, but Smith is stronger and faster and will be peaking in two years, while Lane might be up in smoke.
 
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Ravenheart said:
Noted.
But for now, let's just assume, for argument's sake, that neither of them have highlight film tapes to show the world. All we have are the recruiting services and raw evaluations, not to mention their opinions on Tennessee as a school and its football program. :hi:
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who would you take then? not taking into consideration where they're from
 
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Wow another Devrin Young appearance in a thread that's not about him, I'm shocked.

And lolz at the Buie vs Young "debate". Seriously lolololololz.
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IndianVol said:
Buie is the better prospect than DY and that's not based on stars it's based on their offer lists. Buie is not just a return specialist like DY, Buie can be that speed back for us. Also I don't think the staff chose DY over Buie. I don't ever remember Buie being close to committing to us and the staff backing off for DY. I think the staff took DY because we didn't know for sure we could land Buie and DY was willing to commit on the spot.
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That's another thing. Offer lists don't mean anything either. Just because a prospect doesn't have high-profile Division I offers piling up does not mean that he's no good. Buie could have offers from Colorado State and North Dakota State but that doesn't tell people how good he is. The same is true if Devrin had offers from Alabama, Texas, Florida, and Notre Dame. It doesn't tell us anything. Offer lists are just that; lists.

Maybe Buie is a better prospect than Devrin. But at the end of the day, the staff noticed Devrin's versatility as a running back AND as a return specialist, which was an ability that you even stated that Buie does not possess. In my opinion, this is why we have Devrin rather than Buie. We need a returner and not just a speed back.

GoBigOrange_2309 said:
who would you take then? not taking into consideration where they're from
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I could care less where they are from. Based on needs, let's weigh the options.

Andrew Buie is unquestionably a talented speed back, one that Tennessee needs in its ground game. Devrin Young is also a talented speed back who can bring speed to the running game and also provide as the versatile, speedy, shifty return specialist who has the ability to flip field position. Based on the need for that home run threat in the ground attack and on special teams, Devrin would kill two birds with one stone. So I'll take Devrin.
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Oh look a this, another Devrin Young/Star debate thread. Lol'in at anyone who thinks we wouldn't ake a commitment form Buie or we took DY over Buie. :lol:
 
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How in the world have you come to the conclusion that offer lists mean nothing?

And how do you know Buie isn't just as good or better than DY at special teams?

Also why hasn't Young gotten any big offers if he is such a great ST specialist as you say?

I'm sure the Vols aren't the only team around that needs a kick returner.
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eazyTD said:
How in the world have you come to the conclusion that offer lists mean nothing?

And how do you know Buie isn't just as good or better than DY at special teams?

Also why hasn't Young gotten any big offers if he is such a great ST specialist as you say?

I'm sure the Vols aren't the only team around that needs a kick returner.
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I was hoping this discussion wouldn't come to this. :disappointed:

I never said Buie wasn't a good back. As a matter of fact, I made it a point to point out that he was a very talented speed back. I only said that if I was the coach, I would recruit for the needs of my own program, not because of what other programs want. I think that Devrin brings more to the table than Buie does in terms of versatility, so I would rather have Young. That basically means, in essence, that their offer lists are irrelevant at this present time, even though if the circumstances were different, one would have a more difficult time choosing between the two. What you NEED should be more important than what you WANT.
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Ravenheart said:
That's another thing. Offer lists don't mean anything either. Just because a prospect doesn't have high-profile Division I offers piling up does not mean that he's no good. Buie could have offers from Colorado State and North Dakota State but that doesn't tell people how good he is. The same is true if Devrin had offers from Alabama, Texas, Florida, and Notre Dame. It doesn't tell us anything. Offer lists are just that; lists.

Maybe Buie is a better prospect than Devrin. But at the end of the day, the staff noticed Devrin's versatility as a running back AND as a return specialist, which was an ability that you even stated that Buie does not possess. In my opinion, this is why we have Devrin rather than Buie. We need a returner and not just a speed back.



I could care less where they are from. Based on needs, let's weigh the options.

Andrew Buie is unquestionably a talented speed back, one that Tennessee needs in its ground game. Devrin Young is also a talented speed back who can bring speed to the running game and also provide as the versatile, speedy, shifty return specialist who has the ability to flip field position. Based on the need for that home run threat in the ground attack and on special teams, Devrin would kill two birds with one stone. So I'll take Devrin.
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i'm sure you could care less where they're from, but the reason i put that is because if Devrin was from North Dakota and we were having this discussion about him or Buie, then people would get flamed for considering taking DY over Buie
 
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This reminds me of the agent in THE MATRIX going around turning everyone into his clone. Every thread will eventually turn into a DY thread.
 
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GoBigOrange_2309 said:
i'm sure you could care less where they're from, but the reason i put that is because if Devrin was from North Dakota and we were having this discussion about him or Buie, then people would get flamed for considering taking DY over Buie
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And that, my friend, is what confuses and disappoints me. If he can play, he can play. If he comes to play for Tennessee, why not support him? Just because none of the supposed "powerhouses" offered him? Because he's not a four- or five-star prospect? Unbelievable. Give me a break, people.
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ubcestvol said:
This reminds me of the agent in THE MATRIX going around turning everyone into his clone. Every thread will eventually turn into a DY thread.
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I know what you mean, and trust me, I'm tired of going back and forth with people on Devrin myself. I just don't understand why people dislike him so much. He's a Vol. End of discussion. Deal with it.
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I seriously cannot look at a thread without seeing DY's name pop up. No matter how much we argue about this stuff, it's rather pointless. We're not the coaches. They're going to do what is best.
 
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Ravenheart said:
And that, my friend, is what confuses and disappoints me. If he can play, he can play. If he comes to play for Tennessee, why not support him? Just because none of the supposed "powerhouses" offered him? Because he's not a four- or five-star prospect? Unbelievable. Give me a break, people.
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i'm all for the guy. i hope he has a great career here because he's not goin anywhere. all i'm sayin is that Buie could be a better prospect with tha same, if not a better skill set
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
I seriously cannot look at a thread without seeing DY's name pop up. No matter how much we argue about this stuff, it's rather pointless. We're not the coaches. They're going to do what is best.
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Agreed. I fear, however, that there are still a few on here who will still believe the exact opposite. :yes:

I honestly didn't mean to start anything; I was only stating my opinion like I always do.
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GoBigOrange_2309 said:
i'm all for the guy. i hope he has a great career here because he's not goin anywhere. all i'm sayin is that Buie could be a better prospect with tha same, if not a better skill set
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I understand your opinion, and I acknowledge that Buie is a better prospect. But the staff had their reasons for choosing to go with Young over Buie. For this reason, I trust the staff on whatever their reasoning was for choosing Devrin over Andrew, because I'm sure it was for the good of the program.
 
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Someone should start a thread where everyone posts their opinion about DY, then we let it die. Then after a season or so, bump it and everyone can view it. It would be fun to see who eats crow.
 
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Ravenheart said:
Agreed. I fear, however, that there are still a few on here who will still believe the exact opposite. :yes:

I honestly didn't mean to start anything; I was only stating my opinion like I always do.
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Which is your right my friend.

I just wish that everyone could just leave this issue alone. Just for a few more days.

But alas, I know...it will come up a few more times.
 
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