'12 JUCO DE Denico Autry (MSU signee)

Fortenberry was asked on Volquest if we were to filp Autry would Sentimore and McCullers still be a take? He replied, "I don't think you'll have to worry about that situation arising."

I wonder if autry's parents or guardians didn't play some part in this decision.
 
It would be if it was not for a recorded phone conversation with Cam Newton's dad and someone linked to the MSU program.

Then there is this little nugget.
Mississippi State gets four years probation : Fanblogs College Football Blog

Did you get your Cam Newton information from the Auburn board? :eek:k: :crazy: There is a recorded phone conversation out there. WE(MState) recorded it and gave it to the SEC office. Should have never gone public with any of it IMO. However, State did nothing wrong in recruiting Cam Newton, and that has been repeatedly proven. We just lost the PR battle from the fallout of it all, hence your misstated opinion on the matter. Personally, in hindsight, it would have been the best $180k ever spent, and we may have actually hung a banner :loco:...

Bringing up a story from 2004, 2 coaching staff changes ago, is a pretty big stretch to imply that we are currently a dirty program. "Our Truth" about 2004 case, which is in ongoing litigation, can be found here: Jackie's Justice | The case of Jackie Sherrill vs. the NCAA, RIch Johanningmeier, Mark P. Jones, Julie Gibert, et al The NCAA spent 3 years on campus from 01-04 and basically destroyed our program that was JUST becoming legit for the first time ever(98,99,00). You guys know better than most about how the NCAA snooping around messes up business as usual, and your the traditional powerhouse, Tennessee...not traditional bottom dweller, Mstate. Total NCAA findings against us after 3 years: "The committee found members of the Mississippi State football program improperly reimbursed prospective student-athletes for recruiting trips, giving recruits and their families money for hotel rooms and rental cars. An assistant coach arranged to pay for the summer school classes a recruit needed to become eligible and a booster allowed two recruits to stay in a hotel in Starkville for free."

So, they found practically nothing overall. They had it out for Sherrill from his shenanigans at Pitt and A&M. Now, that said, our program under Sherrill was dirty. No doubt about it. We prettymuch went through a prolonged version of Kiffin drama! Glad they never actually "found the bodies." :mega_shok:

Mullen has thusfar played things pretty clean. He doesn't want to be labeled a cheater here, when it's clear he hopes for a bigger job down the road. I realize you guys are suspicious about Autry, and if the roles were reversed, I probably would be too. He's the FIRST surprise(calling it that is a stretch from our side, we've known he was very interested in us since late Nov, and as of Monday, I had it at 60/40 he goes to Tn) recruit we've gotten under Mullen, and we have lost MANY in much more questionable ways than this(3 to OM and 1 to AUB last year).

Either way...sorry for the long history lesson...and good luck in the rest of your recruiting season. Pulling for you guys to get that program back up to the levels it needs to be. The SEC is a better place overall with a strong Tennessee!
 
Time to move on from this guy. Other players we need to focus on

I think we should move on from the overreaction. Move on from the recruit? I think that's stupid. I'm the type of person that wants a staff that won't quit until NSD. It was UT or MSU. If something happens, and we aren't there in the thick of things, we'd be sorry.
 
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I think we should move on from the overreaction. Move on from the recruit? I think that's stupid. I'm the type of person that wants a staff that won't quit until NSD. It was UT or MSU. If something happens, and we aren't there in the thick of things, we'd be sorry.

Agreed Lynx
 
I think we should move on from the overreaction. Move on from the recruit? I think that's stupid. I'm the type of person that wants a staff that won't quit until NSD. It was UT or MSU. If something happens, and we aren't there in the thick of things, we'd be sorry.

Dude, he's an EE which means it's not a National Signing Day for him. He will sign a LOI in a day or two......let's move on to other recruits!!!
 
Dude, he's an EE which means it's not a National Signing Day for him. He will sign a LOI in a day or two......let's move on to other recruits!!!

Why in the hell would you stop recruiting a guy you believed you had with only 2 days left to work? That's crazy
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I know what happened. It was Autry's visit to Miami last weekend that convinced him that Starkville was a magic place....

Some facts you guys need to know:

1. Autry has been telling the State staff for 3 weeks he was coming to State. This wasnt a surprise to State fans

2. His juco is only 20 miles from Starkville- so he knows full well where he is going and has been hanging out there for awhile.

3. The McPhee story is true- Thanksgiving weekend is when he changed his mind. They bonded, and Autry saw he could take the same path.

4. Mullen isnt going anywhere

5. We have won more games than you guys the last 2 years, and will continue to do so as long as Dooley is your coach.

6. Say goodbye to Jacobs too- he is dating a girl on campus- and with All-SEC DT Fletcher Cox most likely leaving for the draft this April- he sees a starting spot for him on one of the SEC's best defenses next year.

7. Correction- Cam Newton was not offered anything- he asked for 180K...we turned it into the NCAA. We arent paying anybody squat- so stop with the butthurt allegations.
 
Some facts you guys need to know:

1. Autry has been telling the State staff for 3 weeks he was coming to State. This wasnt a surprise to State fans

2. His juco is only 20 miles from Starkville- so he knows full well where he is going and has been hanging out there for awhile.

3. The McPhee story is true- Thanksgiving weekend is when he changed his mind. They bonded, and Autry saw he could take the same path.

4. Mullen isnt going anywhere

5. We have won more games than you guys the last 2 years, and will continue to do so as long as Dooley is your coach.

6. Say goodbye to Jacobs too- he is dating a girl on campus- and with All-SEC DT Fletcher Cox most likely leaving for the draft this April- he sees a starting spot for him on one of the SEC's best defenses next year.

7. Correction- Cam Newton was not offered anything- he asked for 180K...we turned it into the NCAA. We arent paying anybody squat- so stop with the butthurt allegations.

oh dear
 
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Some facts you guys need to know:

1. Autry has been telling the State staff for 3 weeks he was coming to State. This wasnt a surprise to State fans

2. His juco is only 20 miles from Starkville- so he knows full well where he is going and has been hanging out there for awhile.

3. The McPhee story is true- Thanksgiving weekend is when he changed his mind. They bonded, and Autry saw he could take the same path.

4. Mullen isnt going anywhere

5. We have won more games than you guys the last 2 years, and will continue to do so as long as Dooley is your coach.

6. Say goodbye to Jacobs too- he is dating a girl on campus- and with All-SEC DT Fletcher Cox most likely leaving for the draft this April- he sees a starting spot for him on one of the SEC's best defenses next year.

7. Correction- Cam Newton was not offered anything- he asked for 180K...we turned it into the NCAA. We arent paying anybody squat- so stop with the butthurt allegations.

My goodness - homer alert, homer alert.
 
Some facts you guys need to know:

1. Autry has been telling the State staff for 3 weeks he was coming to State. This wasnt a surprise to State fans

2. His juco is only 20 miles from Starkville- so he knows full well where he is going and has been hanging out there for awhile.

3. The McPhee story is true- Thanksgiving weekend is when he changed his mind. They bonded, and Autry saw he could take the same path.

4. Mullen isnt going anywhere

5. We have won more games than you guys the last 2 years, and will continue to do so as long as Dooley is your coach.

6. Say goodbye to Jacobs too- he is dating a girl on campus- and with All-SEC DT Fletcher Cox most likely leaving for the draft this April- he sees a starting spot for him on one of the SEC's best defenses next year.

7. Correction- Cam Newton was not offered anything- he asked for 180K...we turned it into the NCAA. We arent paying anybody squat- so stop with the butthurt allegations.

WTF? Didn't you guys just have a *5 DT commit to you.....how is that a guaranteed spot for Jacobs? And how many games have you won in your history....13 lol
 
Some facts you guys need to know:

1. Autry has been telling the State staff for 3 weeks he was coming to State. This wasnt a surprise to State fans

2. His juco is only 20 miles from Starkville- so he knows full well where he is going and has been hanging out there for awhile.

3. The McPhee story is true- Thanksgiving weekend is when he changed his mind. They bonded, and Autry saw he could take the same path.

4. Mullen isnt going anywhere

5. We have won more games than you guys the last 2 years, and will continue to do so as long as Dooley is your coach.

6. Say goodbye to Jacobs too- he is dating a girl on campus- and with All-SEC DT Fletcher Cox most likely leaving for the draft this April- he sees a starting spot for him on one of the SEC's best defenses next year.

7. Correction- Cam Newton was not offered anything- he asked for 180K...we turned it into the NCAA. We arent paying anybody squat- so stop with the butthurt allegations.

Please stick around so we can laugh at you when we mop the floor with MSU next year :hi:
 
Oh yeah, MSU is so great. They have won so many National Championships and SEC championships. When you get on the same level as UT, then you can post. Until then.. hop off the nuts.
 
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I hope this young man made his decision on what he wanted, and not on what someone else wanted for him. I don't begrudge a recruit for choosing another school. You don't get everyone you want. But if he has been telling the coaches he's a Vol only to drop this on them today, then I do not respect his refusing to take their phone calls. If he feels the coaches lied to him, like someone previously suggested, then he could at least take their phone call and tell them that. I hope, for his sake, that there was nothing shady going on either. None of us know all the facts, unless Autry reads this board, but if he made this decision because he truly felt more comfortable at MSU, then good luck to him. Not the decision I would have made, but I admit to being biased. I hope he's happy there and wish him success, unless he's playing us. In those games, I hope he fails greatly. At this point, I just hope D. Jacobs stays committed. Hopefully Autry isn't in his ear about joining him at MSU, or if he is, I hope Jacobs tells him hell no.

In the end, this is how recruiting goes. It sucks when you think you have a great player locked up only to have him choose someone else. In the crazy world of recruiting, he still has time to change his mind. Hopefully he's having Big Orange dreams right now or nightmares of having to listen to those damn cowbells all year. That alone should make any kid reconsider MSU, lol. But it is what it is. Hopefully we can get in on HS DE that will choose us come NSD. Worst part to me, losing an EE. Having a guy in for spring practice and the strength/conditioning program cannot be underestimated.

he is not answering the staff's phone calls?
 
at least one sensible person here...We've been in the top 20 in scoring D the last 2 seasons- and next year's D will be really good...

Everyone here thinks we are still going to land Jacobs because the insider that told them Autry was a lock for UT says so. Take their insults with a grain of salt.
 
Oh yeah, MSU is so great. They have won so many National Championships and SEC championships. When you get on the same level as UT, then you can post. Until then.. hop off the nuts.

You keep talking history- and I'll keep talking the present

Good luck in your bowl game
 

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