'12 TN ATH Sheldon Dawson

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PaceFLVol said:
On paper this may very well be true. The problem is with us being ranked 13th last year. There were 5 SEC teams ranked higher in recruiting than Tennessee. We played to and lost to 4 of them. The one we did not play won the national championship. Maybe it's not that big of a difference...but it looks to be on the field.
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You can't believe the class that brought us: Brewer, Jac Smith, Bray, Rogers, Hunter, Stone, Fulton, Rivera, and James is bad. Or really far behind any of the others. They've already proven they can play in this league. Stop with the BS dude.
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The Breakerboy said:
You can't believe the class that brought us: Brewer, Jac Smith, Bray, Rogers, Hunter, Stone, Fulton, Rivera, and James is bad. Or really far behind any of the others. They've already proven they can play in this league. Stop with the BS dude.
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It's not BS. While we are getting better, the other SEC schools aren't standing still. And I'm not talking about the usual heavyweights, I'm talking about crap football programs like MSU, Arkansas, USCe... sadly even Vanderbilt looks like they are out recruiting UT. I know it's only JUNE, but it is worrying.
 
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flowd82 said:
I fully expect Dawson to be ranked the #1 player in the state on 247.

I also fully expect Dawson to be bumped up to a 4* on all the major recruiting sites at some point soon.
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I like Dawson a lot. I wouldn't have him ahead of guys like Kimbrow and Robinson but he'd be in the Top 5 in the state for sure.

The guy who I like a lot that nobody talks about at all is Brandon Hill.
 
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tvols75 said:
Before we go into questioning Dooley, let's just analyze the two recruiting classes and what it meant.

QB- Gave us elite talent with Bray and Worley
RB- Gave us what looks to be elite potential in Lane, Smith, and Neal.
WR- Gave us elite talent with Hunter, Rogers, Arnett, and Dallas.
TE- Still lacking a bit depth wise here, but landed Clear.
OL- Gave us elite talent and gave us a ton of depth for future.
DE- Elite talent in Maggitt, Smith, and Williams. Still need to build more depth.
DT- Gave us very good talent with Couch and Miller along with two guys who have potential but are more wait and see in Saulsberry and Carson. Still needs to be addressed.
LB- Coaches have raved over Johnson and Harris. Still need more depth here.
DB- Stock piled us with talent and depth.

So in under 2 years on the job, two recruiting classes have provided us with elite potential at QB, RB, WR, OL, and DB. It has given us elite talent at DE (still need to build more depth), has given us two very good DTs (still need to build more depth), and has given us two potentially very good LBs (still need to build depth). Also, it landed us two of the best kickers and punters in the nation.
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Spot on! :good!:
 
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BigPapaVol said:
No it isn't. The marginal differences across the SEC, as long as they're fairly tightly bunched make no difference at all. The difference is made by how many bust and how many become true stars. Last year's class was our best in nearly a decade.

Staying on par with the top guys will get us our share of the prizes. We keep recruiting like last year and we'll be fine.
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Who are you and what have you done with BigPapaVol?

This is a great post.
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BoseefusTheVol said:
It's not BS. While we are getting better, the other SEC schools aren't standing still. And I'm not talking about the usual heavyweights, I'm talking about crap football programs like MSU, Arkansas, USCe... sadly even Vanderbilt looks like they are out recruiting UT. I know it's only JUNE, but it is worrying.
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It's the whole "next year we will dominate" crowd that is BS. They think because we have an average class and hit on a few good players we will run the SEC. I agree with your statement that all the bottom feeders of the SEC are now actually getting closer to UT. I think they feel if they can just keep denying that Mississippi State, Arkansas, and USCe, are getting better..while we appear to be treading water...then it's not happening. "Next year we will beat em". "Maybe not this class..but next year they are dead". I am tired of hopes and dreams...When the Vandys of the world are kicking your ass in recruiting, "It's only July" ...Keep on hoping..
 
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The whole game in this thread changed when SGM graced us with his always-negative presence.
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I know this is a bit off topic, but I feel like Tennessee is on par with Nebraska when it comes to high school talent. My question is, do top prospects in Nebraska slow play their state school like Tennessee kids do?
 
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VOLFREAK11 said:
So not being in the top 25 lands you a 7 win season? So what does top 25 give you 8 wins? Top 20 9 wins? Top 10, 10 wins?
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The last 5 or 6 national champs have had the #1 ranked class within 4 years prior to the NC season.

I'm not a huge "star" guy but that is a fact that can't be overlooked.

If you're in the top 12 to 15, there isn't much of a difference if you can keep everyone in and contributing.

It's when a big 5 star guy flops is when you get in trouble.

Look at Demetrice Morley, Kenny O'Neal, Chris Donald, Walter Fisher, Ben Martin etc that never lived up to their billing and/or got kicked out.
 
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BoseefusTheVol said:
I know this is a bit off topic, but I feel like Tennessee is on par with Nebraska when it comes to high school talent. My question is, do top prospects in Nebraska slow play their state school like Tennessee kids do?
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Nebraska is the only school in the state worth mentioning.

Nebraska kids go to Nebraska because that's what they dream of doing.

Tennessee is a little different. Memphis is closer to Ole Miss, MSU and Alabama than Knoxville.

Middle Tennessee has a ton of out of state transferees.

Kids in Tennessee don't necessarily grow up dreaming of running through the T.
 
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At UGA this weekend. Still plans on visiting UT very soon before he makes any decision.
 
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reiterating, Would definitely like to see Dawson in a Vol Uni...

I think he has great talent and potential
 
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Visiting Ole Miss this weekend w/ his grandparents. Not a good sign for UT IMO.

If Dawson gets through the weekend without committing to Ole Miss, then he probably will still come to UT's July camp and UT will still be in decent shape with him.

But ATP I wouldn't put it past Dawson committing this weekend. Ole Miss has been the favorite throughout the process, his best friend and teammate is a commit at Ole Miss, and now he is visiting again with his grandparents.
 
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Watch out for the Ole Miss commitment on his trip there. Just heard that there is a good chance it happens.
 
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Yep I'd expect him to probably commit this weekend if the grandparents are going with him. Doubt he ever makes it to camp.
 
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"Everybody grows up watching UT football from around here"

Been trying to tell everyone on here this about the Memphis kids!
 
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