'14 GA RB Treyvon Paulk (UT Signee 2/5/14)

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LebanonVolunteer said:
If not, it seems ALOT OF folks at that party were out to "get him". The girl, a few Lady VOLS, at least 1 UT teammate. Would be an interesting take for sure.
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I can tell you that not all witnesses are credible either. That's my line of work. All speculation by everyone on here because we weren't there.
 
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I don't think Paulk's status was related to Sapp at all. I do wish one of these Milton HS players will work out though. Tony Williams was from there also and he ended up leaving. This high school is attracting players right now and we will have lots of opportunities there in the future.
 
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VolGee4 said:
You have to consider everything else that was going on in our country.

I wasn't told that Sapp made his decision solely on Paulk. But I was told that questions were asked when it happened. The legal system and being on scholarship are two totally different standards, but you have to believe that Paulk will play football again somewhere because he wasn't charged. I was told that the female's parents who were out of state put pressure on the situation.
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I've said all along the kid can and will get a second change. Its JMO that it should not be at UT.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
You would think the witnesses would then have told the police she punched herself in the mouth causing the injuries.
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Or maybe the female was hitting Paulk and Paulk made contact with her when trying to hold her back. When police ask witnesses, "did Paulk make contact?" They answer "yes," which is the truth. That still doesn't mean he committed a criminal act. See how this goes.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Not all, I could see that. I'd tend to believe at least one of them if they are all telling me the same thing though. Jmo
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You are just speculating. Maybe they said different things. Proof to me is presented under oath in a court of law. When you are not subject to perjury, anyone can say anything.
 
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Lots of excuses being tossed around. If the kid didn't do it. If she "lied". If he was just protecting himself. If all the witnesses lied. He would not have been dismissed. Imo, it's that simple. He was booted in Sept. Its now Feb. Nothing has changed but time passed.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Lots of excuses being tossed around. If the kid didn't do it. If she "lied". If he was just protecting himself. If all the witnesses lied. He would not have been dismissed. Imo, it's that simple. He was booted in Sept. Its now Feb. Nothing has changed but time passed.
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Double post.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Lots of excuses being tossed around. If the kid didn't do it. If she "lied". If he was just protecting himself. If all the witnesses lied. He would not have been dismissed. Imo, it's that simple. He was booted in Sept. Its now Feb. Nothing has changed but time passed.
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It's not that simple. The standard for dismissing a player on scholarship is much lower than charging them in a court of law. Tennessee football didn't need the perception that they were playing someone that could have been involved in a female assault. Perception in this country was that nothing should be tolerated. It was the type of charge. If he was cited for public intox, he is probably still on the team. It's not that simple.
 
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VolGee4 said:
It's not that simple. The standard for dismissing a player on scholarship is much lower than charging them in a court of law. Tennessee football didn't need the perception that they were playing someone that could have been involved in a female assault. Perception in this country was that nothing should be tolerated. It's not that simple.
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So if Butch were not 100 percent sure before dismissing Paulk, would he not have opened up the school to a lawsuit? I tend to think Butch felt pretty confident in his action or he wouldn't have done it.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
So if Butch were not 100 percent sure before dismissing Paulk, would he not have opened up the school to a lawsuit? I tend to think Butch felt pretty confident in his action or he wouldn't have done it.
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Not necessarily. As I said, the standard for keeping him on scholarship is not that high. Maybe Butch could hang his hat on Paulk not performing well in the classroom. You can dismiss a kid for non-criminal related activities. I know it's a message board, but you are just purely speculating. No one really knows.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Not necessarily. As I said, the standard for keeping him on scholarship is not that high. Maybe Butch could hang his hat on Paulk not performing well in the classroom. You can dismiss a kid for non-criminal related activities. I know it's a message board, but you are just purely speculating. No one really knows.
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If my child were falsely accused of punching a woman in the face, losing his spot on the football team, and spoken negatively about in the media and he were innocent all along, I would be livid. I would have an attorney. I would be raising all kinds of he&& to make sure the truth he told.

Unless I've missed all this, nada. Ya know who doesn't protest/argue accusations like this? The guilty.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
If my child were falsely accused of punching a woman in the face, losing his spot on the football team, and spoken negatively about in the media and he were innocent all along, I would be livid. I would have an attorney. I would be raising all kinds of he&& to make sure the truth he told.

Unless I've missed all this, nada. Ya know who doesn't protest/argue accusations like this? The guilty.
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If it were that simple.
 
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When Butch talks about recruiting players, he always talks about the profile of what he wants in a player and he always says they have to have good character. I tend to believe he truly means that when he says it. I don't see him taking a recruit or allowing a player to be re-admitted to the team if he doesn't believe in that player's character. That being said, if he allows Paulk back on the team, then it's because he actually deserves it. I trust what Butch decides.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
If not, it seems ALOT OF folks at that party were out to "get him". The girl, a few Lady VOLS, at least 1 UT teammate. Would be an interesting take for sure.
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See Leb that's why everyone hates on you. Your source is the same as everyone else's. Nobody knows what happened. It's never been official, only rumor and message board chatter. Rather than look at the bright side, you convict and pass judgement based on rumors. If you qualified your position by saying "if this turns out to be true" people would be more accepting. Instead you quickly latch on to the worst case scenario and establish it as the truth. JMO.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I've said all along the kid can and will get a second change. Its JMO that it should not be at UT.
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Why?..Why not UT...my sister has been married for 26 years. They were 18 years old when they married. It was a totally unhealthy, violent(both sides) realationship. Then something changed. They wanted help, they got help and saved thier marriage. I am sick of this holier than thou BS. It is one thing to never learn, and some don't, but if the kid is worthy of a second chance. Then I say give him one. People get second chances for everything, why not this?..If he screws up again, then send him packing.
 
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