'14 GA RB Treyvon Paulk (UT Signee 2/5/14)

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Sudden Impact said:
IMO, we have gotten to the point that whatever the truth is, it doesn't really matter because of Title IX issues. Paulk will either be a victim of circumstances and the system or vindicated by someone willing to take on the system.

Terrible timing. Might be at the point of buying each athlete a Go Pro and attaching it to their heads when they go out with feeds to the AD.
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Or maybe we don't hit women.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
IMO, we have gotten to the point that whatever the truth is, it doesn't really matter because of Title IX issues. Paulk will either be a victim of circumstances and the system or vindicated by someone willing to take on the system.

Terrible timing. Might be at the point of buying each athlete a Go Pro and attaching it to their heads when they go out with feeds to the AD.
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Pretty sure that would be a great TV show if you pieced together some of the best ones from across the country.
 
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Personally I hope Paulk has learned a life lesson and is given a 2nd chance on a short leash. It just doesn't look like it's going to happen with adding Young recently.
 
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Guyute said:
Or maybe we don't hit women.
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Agree. No excuse. Evidently the story keeps changing....who knows its Kids and hormones, immaturity.

Two incidents without resolution based on recants and failure to prosecute. Even with witnesses in both cases seems pretty inept on University's part or local authorities.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Then Kelly goes for 675 yards, Abernathy goes for 380, Perry pitches in with 300, Bruce adds another 300. Dobbs keeps it a bit more and rushes for about 300 on the year. All along throwing it more as we have the WRs to lean on if needed.

More passes, serviceable backs, it can work if need be.
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If only it was as simple as stating how many yards we can get.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I've read the reports. Butch dismissed him. I've got the facts. At least the facts I need to provide an opinion.
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Absolutely zero is factual. All the published reports are her side. There are always two sides to every story. It was also reported that she attacked him and simply put his hands up and hit her in the mouth in the process. Is that enough for me to exonerate him? No, more than the other reports to convict him. The only fact that has been established is you know nothing about what actually happened.
 
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DaddyChad said:
She was hit. Police took pictures of the injuries she sustained. I guess she could've beat herself in the face or I know maybe she fell down some steps. You know those silly drunken girls always hurting themselves. He was probably trying to assist her back to her feet after she fell on the floor and busted her mouth, right?

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Let's keep rationalizing and get a good football team with no morals. And your last statement is laughable. Provoked? Did she have a knife or weapon or anything that threatened his person? I guess anytime my wife drops a smartass comment I have free reign to punch her in the face because I was provoked? Some need to seriously take a look in the mirror and consider what they're willing to let go to get a good football team, this is damn sickening to me.
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This is my line of work. You can't always believe what is reported in the media. I am telling you this first hand. And as crazy as this may sound to you, but you also can't believe what is in a police report. I can't tell you how many times a report says one thing and a witness, under oath, says something different. I am not saying this is the case. But I can absolutely tell you that any article about it means a hill of beans. The fact is that CBJ has more info than any if us. If you read his statement again, he says there are things beyond his control, which means it was university policy regardless of the facts.

I know most of you aren't in positions to see this, but some are being naive about the way this works. I have no idea if he will be reinstated or not, but none of us have the true information that is required to make that decision.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
IMO, we have gotten to the point that whatever the truth is, it doesn't really matter because of Title IX issues. Paulk will either be a victim of circumstances and the system or vindicated by someone willing to take on the system.

Terrible timing. Might be at the point of buying each athlete a Go Pro and attaching it to their heads when they go out with feeds to the AD.
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I agree. Everyone wants to stand up for women in sexual assault or assault cases. They fall silent when it comes to men being victims of women falsely accusing.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Pretty sure that would be a great TV show if you pieced together some of the best ones from across the country.
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There would be some moms calling sons and some dads calling their daughters. It would be interesting to watch.
 
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vols 30 said:
Are you talking about just domestic violence?
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If AJ Johnson is found guilty he deserves a second chance years down the road. I think it goes with a lot of things. Not sure the entire case with Paulk, but he was dismissed from the team, he'll likely have some conditions if he comes back. If he can follow them then he deserves the second chance to play football somewhere. I'd be happy for him to be here. You can't ruin peoples lives off of one mistake.
 
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OldVol49vfl said:
The company I retired from had a "guilty until proven innocent" policy. If you were in management that didn't apply, they were innocent no matter what happened.
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Unfortunately, that "rule" for leadership applies in most areas of society...military, politics, business, religion, etc.
 
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I really struggle with this issue; how do you punish a young man, assuming he did it, without destroying his life? Before anyone suggests I am condoning hitting a woman, I am not. But I came from a very violent background where hitting was common, sometimes initiated by females, usually finished by males. Was it right, no! But it was learned behavior. I was very lucky. I managed to find an environment (ironically the military) at a young age where I was taught other ways to handle these situations. If I had taken a wrong turn at that age I might have found myself in his situation.

My concern is that the public only wants to allow one outcome for someone who makes a mistake, "the death penalty". You see it more and more where these things get publicized. Once the media gets hold of it there is only one outcome that is acceptable; either he is innocent or he gets the death penalty. And for some of these young men it is the death penalty as far as their future is concerned.

There has to be a better way. I don't have the answers, and neither do the posters on this forum, all filled with righteous indignation one side or the other.

There, I ranted, and I do not feel any better about this!
 
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