'14 IL LB Clifton Garrett

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Phat-Phil said:
I gotcha and I agree that he was underrated while he was here. I just didn't know it you were old enough to get the pleasure of watch Mr. Al Wilson play for UT. He was an extremely aggressive player as well and absolutely punished people when he tackled them. He was a walking highlight reel at LB. He was so much fun to watch. Hoping Cecil Cherry can be that type of player for us a few years down the road (lofty wishing I know).

Mayo was really fun to watch as well. He didn't have as many punishing hits as Al but he read plays so well and seemed to be always around the ball and making plays. One of my favorites to watch at LB.
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Kevin Simon when healthy was hell on wheels. Loved Raynoch Thompson and Eric Westmoreland too. Jerod Mayo was fun to watch grow as a player in Orange. I have to laugh when our fanbase labels AJ Johnson a beast because he wouldn't have started in the late 90s or early 2000s with how he plays. Our guys were nasty then in particular the Al Wilson. Forced more fumbles in the Florida game than Johnson has his whole career.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
I have to laugh when our fanbase labels AJ Johnson a beast because he wouldn't have started in the late 90s or early 2000s with how he plays. Our guys were nasty then in particular the Al Wilson. Forced more fumbles in the Florida game than Johnson has his whole career.
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How true.... It's a sign of the times.. You celebrate what you have.. We've been down that long.. It does appear that CBJ is going to change this though..

Also, NO offense meant towards AJ.. He has represented the VOLS in fine fashion...
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Kevin Simon when healthy was hell on wheels. Loved Raynoch Thompson and Eric Westmoreland too. Jerod Mayo was fun to watch grow as a player in Orange. I have to laugh when our fanbase labels AJ Johnson a beast because he wouldn't have started in the late 90s or early 2000s with how he plays. Our guys were nasty then in particular the Al Wilson. Forced more fumbles in the Florida game than Johnson has his whole career.
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Raynoch, Westmoreland, Wilson and Eddie Moore were great to watch. And I agree...AJ wouldn't have seen the field in this era, imo...not at LB anyway.
 
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I really think if we can get this guy on
Campus, he is a Vol.

I think
Jackson will be a
Tougher pull. But I think we can land them
Both.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Kevin Simon when healthy was hell on wheels. Loved Raynoch Thompson and Eric Westmoreland too. Jerod Mayo was fun to watch grow as a player in Orange. I have to laugh when our fanbase labels AJ Johnson a beast because he wouldn't have started in the late 90s or early 2000s with how he plays. Our guys were nasty then in particular the Al Wilson. Forced more fumbles in the Florida game than Johnson has his whole career.
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I laugh when supposed experts ignore the fact that AJ has only 2 years in his belt for his college career. And to have an accurate comparison, we need to see how his college career concludes before any legitimate take can be made.
 
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sanddune50 said:
I laugh when supposed experts ignore the fact that AJ has only 2 years in his belt for his college career. And to have an accurate comparison, we need to see how his college career concludes before any legitimate take can be made.
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Two years, four years, it doesn't really matter. There are aspects of his game in which struggles, more due to athleticism than time and experience, IMO.. I think some of that can be 'hidden' in the college game but not in the NFL.. I hope I'm wrong but he probably won't be an 'every down' player in the pros. If there even is such a thing anymore.
 
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sanddune50 said:
I laugh when supposed experts ignore the fact that AJ has only 2 years in his belt for his college career. And to have an accurate comparison, we need to see how his college career concludes before any legitimate take can be made.
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This. The unwarranted AJ bashing on this site is beyond laughable. I really hope he makes a big jump in his third year under some good coaching and shuts some of this chatter down. He's a damn fine ballplayer.
 
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This is JMO, but I believe AJ is overblown mainly because he has been the most consistent defender on some horrible teams. I think he's a good player, but not of the talent of the LB's during the 90's and beyond. Guys like Wilson, Raynoch, Moore, etc stood out on defenses flooded with future NFL players. I just don't think AJ could of starred at LB on those teams. I could be wrong...we'll never know!?! I think he's a step or two slow to last very long in the NFL, jmo.
 
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m1al said:
Two years, four years, it doesn't really matter. There are aspects of his game in which struggles, more due to athleticism than time and experience, IMO.. I think some of that can be 'hidden' in the college game but not in the NFL.. I hope I'm wrong but he probably won't be an 'every down' player in the pros. If there even is such a thing anymore.
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So players between the ages of 18-22 have reached their peak? They don't grow any more? Get stronger, faster,etc.?

Not to mention, it's hard to really get a solid feel of any defensive player last year after the disaster that Sunseri brought to Knoxville. Everyone of our defenders looked slow because they were reacting to a play instead of attacking the ball. Last year's defensive woes were more an issue of confusion and schematics more so than individual talent IMO.

I think we will get a more solid look as to what kind of players we have on defense this year when we go back to a 4-3 which is what the current crop of player were recruited for.
 
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sanddune50 said:
So players between the ages of 18-22 have reached their peak? They don't grow any more? Get stronger, faster,etc.?

Not to mention, it's hard to really get a solid feel of any defensive player last year after the disaster that Sunseri brought to Knoxville. Everyone of our defenders looked slow because they were reacting to a play instead of attacking the ball. Last year's defensive woes were more an issue of confusion and schematics more so than individual talent IMO.

I think we will get a more solid look as to what kind of players we have on defense this year when we go back to a 4-3 which is what the current crop of player were recruited for.
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The kind of athleticism I'm talking about is more God given than anything. You either have it (from birth) or you don't.. The kind of speed we all want to see in Knoxville again is a prime example. I agree with you as far as last year. Sunseri was TERRIBLE and made them look bad.. The right coordinator, the right defense and intelligent play calling makes everybody look better..

To have truely great teams you have to have both, great coaching and those things that can't be coached.. Good news is, it looks like we are finally headed in the right direction on both accounts...

GO VOLS.....
 
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Aj was deficient in speed and coverage skills. He's lost a little weight and hopefully that weakness has improved. He'll help against power running teams but will be a liability again if his speed does not improve. He'll likely be the first sub in nickel and dime anyway. I know I'd try to isolate a scat back on him in the passing game if I were attacking our defense.
 
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RichRollin said:
Mayo was nasty. One of my favorites was Darrin Miller from the 85 team.
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Funny story, I tutored this gorgeous girl in chemistry...she was fighting with her boyfriend a lot...convinced her I was a better option. After we were dating, found out her previous boyfriend was Darrin Miller. Looked over my shoulder frequently after that. :)
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Funny story, I tutored this gorgeous girl in chemistry...she was fighting with her boyfriend a lot...convinced her I was a better option. After we were dating, found out her previous boyfriend was Darrin Miller. Looked over my shoulder frequently after that. :)
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Awesome story bro.
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Funny story, I tutored this gorgeous girl in chemistry...she was fighting with her boyfriend a lot...convinced her I was a better option. After we were dating, found out her previous boyfriend was Darrin Miller. Looked over my shoulder frequently after that. :)
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And who said nerds never get lucky!?! :)
 
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volsdoc81tx said:
funny story, i tutored this gorgeous girl in chemistry...she was fighting with her boyfriend a lot...convinced her i was a better option. After we were dating, found out her previous boyfriend was darrin miller. Looked over my shoulder frequently after that. :)
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lmao
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Funny story, I tutored this gorgeous girl in chemistry...she was fighting with her boyfriend a lot...convinced her I was a better option. After we were dating, found out her previous boyfriend was Darrin Miller. Looked over my shoulder frequently after that. :)
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Cool story bro worthy.

But really, way to go :thumbsup:
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Funny story, I tutored this gorgeous girl in chemistry...she was fighting with her boyfriend a lot...convinced her I was a better option. After we were dating, found out her previous boyfriend was Darrin Miller. Looked over my shoulder frequently after that. :)
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