'14 JUCO LB Chris Weatherd (UT Signee 2/5/14)

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Burger said:
Nope. We got very lucky with CP. He would of been a lot better if he was.
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No doubt, but saying we shouldn't take a guy we see as valuable to the team because he isn't an EE isn't the way to handle it. I could probably do some digging and find some other cases that worked out well.

Everything is case by case in recruiting
 
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Burger said:
Agreed, that's why jucos should try to EE. We should keep it to EE jucos only. Williams and Blair showed up out of shape , and now they're in way better shape.
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Wrong. Mount Cody was never in shape and probably still isn't in the NFL and was a beast. There are exceptions.
 
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I4Jay said:
Disagree.
A Linebacker is a linebacker. Especially an up the field pass rushing type like Weatherd.

He could show up the day before camp and if he is physically ready there will be little holding him back play book wise.

When the talent is there, Pressuring the QB is the easiest transition from each level of football
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Finally... Someone who isn't ready to write him off because he is getting here a bit late.

He could still be a huge player, if he has the talent
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Finally... Someone who isn't ready to write him off because he is getting here a bit late.

He could still be a huge player, if he has the talent
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Yeah, I don't get it. People were chomping at the bit to get information about whether he made it in or not. Then they boomed. Now they piss and moan about how he won't contribute...
 
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If he gets in, he can be a HUGE ready to go asset to the team. He is SEC ready unlike many of the freshmen could be. He may need a little time to get into shape, but he should be ready to play at least part time. He should know the playbook enough to play right away.
 
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volroadwarrior said:
If he gets in, he can be a HUGE ready to go asset to the team. He is SEC ready unlike many of the freshmen could be. He may need a little time to get into shape, but he should be ready to play at least part time. He should know the playbook enough to play right away.
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Special Playbook for Chris Weathered:

1. Kill guy with ball
 
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BaldBiker said:
Special Playbook for Chris Weathered:

1. Kill guy with ball
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Weatherd when he scoops up a fumble...

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If he's out of shape, put him on ST and run him in The first couple of games. Make him do laps every practice as well and have him run and workout hard every chance he gets. He'll be in shape pretty quit.
 
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Are we really assuming this guy isn't able to run laps or stay in decent shape unless he is enrolled? C'mon. I understand there may be a learning curve with regards to the playbook, but it is not that far fetched to think he is still working out.
 
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Nuctech777 said:
Are we really assuming this guy isn't able to run laps or stay in decent shape unless he is enrolled? C'mon. I understand there may be a learning curve with regards to the playbook, but it is not that far fetched to think he is still working out.
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Agree. While I realize there is a difference between JUCO or working out on your own vs. an SEC program, what's the point in sitting here speculating on something about which nobody has any clue? I choose to let the coaches worry about his condition if/when he gets cleared.

::Insert kermit the frog meme:: - But thats none of my business
 
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joelkthx said:
Agree. While I realize there is a difference between JUCO or working out on your own vs. an SEC program, what's the point in sitting here speculating on something about which nobody has any clue? I choose to let the coaches worry about his condition if/when he gets cleared.

::Insert kermit the frog meme:: - But thats none of my business
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Well..., This is a Speculation Board.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
It would financially be like MLB...and it will suck gigantic donkey ****.
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Burger said:
The MLB is doing great. It'd put the NCAA where it deserves to be... Dead.
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I don't think you understand what I meant by this...The financial inequities of MLB favor the haves over the have nots. CFB will be in the exact same position. Do you really want to get in bidding wars over HS football players? Our AD is already in a precarious position. You folks that favor paying players have not really thought all this through. It will absolutely destroy College athletics.
 
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And if you notice my little icon thingy over there, you will see I am a Tampa Bay Rays fan. It is sickening and disheartening to year after year watch our team forced to trade our best players of because of the financial inequities of MLB. Case in point...At this moment David Price (arguably the 2nd best lefthander in baseball after Kershaw) is going to be traded at any moment. If you think the crappabammers and schlonghorns and Usucks of the world are going to let a equitable fair system be put in place you live in fantasy land. Thus my original point is valid...It will be like MLB, and it will suck gigantic donkey goob.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I don't think you understand what I meant by this...The financial inequities of MLB favor the haves over the have nots. CFB will be in the exact same position. Do you really want to get in bidding wars over HS football players? Our AD is already in a precarious position. You folks that favor paying players have not really thought all this through. It will absolutely destroy College athletics.
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Paying college athletes will be the last straw for me. We already have pro ball and it's a better product top to bottom.
If athletes are paid it would have to be a stipend distributed directly through the NCAA. And it should be a conservative. amount.
I'm a bit of a college sports socialist. College coaches are over paid, and tickets are over priced. I gave up season tickets when Hamilton started trying to extort us for a high end south end zone upgrade that fell flat on its face when the economy tanked. I've been to one game in eight years and honestly, I don't miss it that much.
I'm sickened by what has happened to college ball and Saban is the poster child for everything that is wrong.

In my opinion college coaches shouldn't make over $500k, and profits should be returned to the schools. Schools should be capped on what they can spend on facilities. The facilities at UT and Oregon (among others) are obscene and I'm not convinced it makes that much better of an athlete. NFL team facilities fall short in comparison because they don't have to recruit. Yet, the players are well conditioned.

The pageantry of college football is guys suiting up in dingy locker rooms under the stadium, not getting mani-pedis before the game in the training room. It's freaking ridiculous. Sadly, fans will continue to buy the tickets and apparel until they destroy this thing.
 
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Roustabout said:
Paying college athletes will be the last straw for me. We already have pro ball and it's a better product top to bottom.
If athletes are paid it would have to be a stipend distributed directly through the NCAA. And it should be a conservative. amount.
I'm a bit of a college sports socialist. College coaches are over paid, and tickets are over priced. I gave up season tickets when Hamilton started trying to extort us for a high end south end zone upgrade that fell flat on its face when the economy tanked. I've been to one game in eight years and honestly, I don't miss it that much.
I'm sickened by what has happened to college ball and Saban is the poster child for everything that is wrong.

In my opinion college coaches shouldn't make over $500k, and profits should be returned to the schools. Schools should be capped on what they can spend on facilities. The facilities at UT and Oregon (among others) are obscene and I'm not convinced it makes that much better of an athlete. NFL team facilities fall short in comparison because they don't have to recruit. Yet, the players are well conditioned.

The pageantry of college football is guys suiting up in dingy locker rooms under the stadium, not getting mani-pedis before the game in the training room. It's freaking ridiculous. Sadly, fans will continue to buy the tickets and apparel until they destroy this thing.
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Exactly. :good!:
 
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People a t like he hasent worked out in awhile. I'm sure he knows he needs to stay in shape especially since he is going to play major college ball
 
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Roustabout said:
Paying college athletes will be the last straw for me. We already have pro ball and it's a better product top to bottom.
If athletes are paid it would have to be a stipend distributed directly through the NCAA. And it should be a conservative. amount.
I'm a bit of a college sports socialist. College coaches are over paid, and tickets are over priced. I gave up season tickets when Hamilton started trying to extort us for a high end south end zone upgrade that fell flat on its face when the economy tanked. I've been to one game in eight years and honestly, I don't miss it that much.
I'm sickened by what has happened to college ball and Saban is the poster child for everything that is wrong.

In my opinion college coaches shouldn't make over $500k, and profits should be returned to the schools. Schools should be capped on what they can spend on facilities. The facilities at UT and Oregon (among others) are obscene and I'm not convinced it makes that much better of an athlete. NFL team facilities fall short in comparison because they don't have to recruit. Yet, the players are well conditioned.

The pageantry of college football is guys suiting up in dingy locker rooms under the stadium, not getting mani-pedis before the game in the training room. It's freaking ridiculous. Sadly, fans will continue to buy the tickets and apparel until they destroy this thing.
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I don't like the thought of an college athlete drawing a salary either but they also should have more freedom or ability to invest in their long term physical health. I don't know what the right answer is, but it lies somewhere in the middle of 'no money' and 'salary.'

But don't you think higher pay attracts better coaches? It's a product driven by a free market and I have no problem with schools *ahem* boosters paying out the butt for the best coach out there. What would Nick Saban be doing if Alabama couldn't pay 8 million a year or whatever. He may be an assistant in the NFL or doing something else and he wouldn't be putting together ridiculous teams like we haven't seen in decades.

I wonder if elevating teachers' salaries would breed a better product or attract the best of the best.
 
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engineerVOL said:
I don't like the thought of an college athlete drawing a salary either but they also should have more freedom or ability to invest in their long term physical health. I don't know what the right answer is, but it lies somewhere in the middle of 'no money' and 'salary.'

But don't you think higher pay attracts better coaches? It's a product driven by a free market and I have no problem with schools *ahem* boosters paying out the butt for the best coach out there. What would Nick Saban be doing if Alabama couldn't pay 8 million a year or whatever. He may be an assistant in the NFL or doing something else and he wouldn't be putting together ridiculous teams like we haven't seen in decades.

I wonder if elevating teachers' salaries would breed a better product or attract the best of the best.
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Love it, would be great. :yes:
 
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