'14 TN DE/TE Derek Barnett (UT Signee 2/5/14)

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Still amazed that Vol74 info is the same as mine yet everyone is talking about how they will laugh in my face when he commits.
Why would anyone laugh? We're on the same team with (some) differing opinions. Not saying that's not being said though, it probably is. I just sift through some of the crap that gets posted.
 
On potential commitments in August:

Barnett - We'll see if he does something in August. I still think Tennessee is in very good shape here, but have to close well because it's not over and may not be in August.

-Fortenberry, VQ
 
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A lot of people have said Mom likes the academic side of Vandy -- can't blame her. They market as though it's a southern Ivy and if you actually believe the glossy printouts then who wouldn't want to buy into that? The trouble is that it's a stretch. Vandy is a good school but so is UT and the difference between the value of degree between UT or Vandy is negligible. What you major in and how good you dept is matters most.

Also, surely she's heard about what's going on there (no we don't need to be classless and bring it up) so if I were her even if I'd liked Vandy before as a parent I'd very loathe to send him into trouble. JMO.

Ultimately the kids gotta go where he feels best.
 
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Daniel Lewis from Nooga.com said on TSR he's talked to a source recently and he thinks Barnett will choose UT.
 
VQ has slapped on not just the ol "good shape" tag. But added the "very" to it also. Sounds like good news.
 
A lot of people have said Mom likes the academic side of Vandy -- can't blame her. They market as though it's a southern Ivy and if you actually believe the glossy printouts then who wouldn't want to buy into that? The trouble is that it's a stretch. Vandy is a good school but so is UT and the difference between the value of degree between UT or Vandy is negligible. What you major in and how good you dept is matters most.

Also, surely she's heard about what's going on there (no we don't need to be classless and bring it up) so if I were her even if I'd liked Vandy before as a parent I'd very loathe to send him into trouble. JMO.

Ultimately the kids gotta go where he feels best.

I would venture a guess that the degrees the majority of football players at Vanderbilt are getting are of the same benefit that the same degree would be from UT, MTSU, or Memphis.
 
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Still amazed that Vol74 info is the same as mine yet everyone is talking about how they will laugh in my face when he commits.

I'm not going to dog you out for any information you have brought. In fact, I believe what you and Vol74 have brought to the board is the truth. But being Vol fans, wouldn't you both want to laugh in each others faces if that meant getting a much needed key piece to the class like a Derek Barnett?
 
VQ has slapped on not just the ol "good shape" tag. But added the "very" to it also. Sounds like good news.

Agreed. I can think of less than a handful of players that Brent and Paul said we were in "good shape" with that didn't become Vols. Probably only a dozen or so that weren't already Vols.
 
I would venture a guess that the degrees the majority of football players at Vanderbilt are getting are of the same benefit that the same degree would be from UT, MTSU, or Memphis.

All a Bachelor's degree does anymore is get you in the door. You get to sit at the job interview table and take your shot but so does everyone else with the degree. Where educational quality really comes into play is in very specialized degree programs, graduate school, and other graduate level specialties (every school doesn't offer every program).
 
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I would venture a guess that the degrees the majority of football players at Vanderbilt are getting are of the same benefit that the same degree would be from UT, MTSU, or Memphis.

Unless it's in a specialty field that parlays into the workforce, an undergrad Vandy degree would be equally as useless. Being a history or philosophy major from Vandy won't magically get you an elite job if one's football career flames out.
 
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It seems obvious that he would pick the team with the greater pro potential. As for academics, college is what you make of it. Majoring in subjects like political science, journalism, English, etc., won't really help someone land a job. I know VU and Sewanee grads in that situation. I studied at UT, however, and it led to my doctorate.

I've been saying this for years. Is Vandy a good academic school? Sure. But the value of an education from there is waaay overblown.
 
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I would venture a guess that the degrees the majority of football players at Vanderbilt are getting are of the same benefit that the same degree would be from UT, MTSU, or Memphis.

This all day ^^^^^ Just as an example, I work in Civil Engineering and would take a person with an Engineering degree from UT ALL DAY over one with and Engineering degree from Vandy. Not even close.
 
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I would venture a guess that the degrees the majority of football players at Vanderbilt are getting are of the same benefit that the same degree would be from UT, MTSU, or Memphis.

The most important part is the alumni network. A player at almost any major school who puts in his four years and graduates without getting into serious trouble should pretty easily walk into a job with the connections he'll get from playing football.
 
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The most important part is the alumni network. A player at almost any major school who puts in his four years and graduates without getting into serious trouble should pretty easily walk into a job with the connections he'll get from playing football.

That's all college is, connections. I had a buddy get to pharmacy school with a 3.2 GPA. How? Because he did research for ETSU and got in with the right people. People with the right title can help you in more ways then you know.
 
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