'15 AL OL Brandon Kennedy

[Glitch]

Sagan would beg us to take Kennedy if that were the alternative

Ed Zachary!

 

[jbr82]

-Simonton

Coaches do it saban.

 

[jbr82]

Saban’s not a fan of free agency, but freely processes guys by only honoring one scholarship year at a time. Pot, meet kettle.

Saban is full of it

 

[reVOLution33]

He couldn't do that even if he wanted to. Scholarships are for 4 years now. It's been that way for a while.

As far as i know, that rule has not changed and is year to year. Could be wrong but pretty sure there was a coach that got hired this year that said he would pull scholarships of current players if he felt it would help the team. Like i said i could be wrong.

 

[BruinVol]

The rule has always been that a coach cannot remove a scholarship for athletic purposes. No different now than ever on that.

 

[volnbama_]

Then you aren't paying attention. Both made strides in the spring. Tatum particularly is filling out his frame.
Expect Tatum to show up in Fall camp at a lean 310.

Tatum looks like he is no longer athletic enough to play in this league after gaining weight from 245.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Schools slowing the process down of graduating is coming in a big way

Graduate programs take more than one year to get a degree anyway. The spirit of the rule is to help a kid get the degree they want so there is no reason why that kid can't sit out a year. Give the kid an extra redshirt year which would allow many of them to go into their 6th year. They shouldn't be immediately eligible imo

Don't know that they need a 6th year unless they have been injured. I will have to think more about that one.

 

[Rishvol]

If 3-year grads who redshirted (and thus have 2 years remaining to play) get total freedom to transfer anywhere they want and play immediately, LOTS more kids are going to start taking enough summer classes to graduate early and give themselves that option. Teams (including Tennessee) could have 10-15 of their most experienced players (they spent 3-4 years and lots of $s educating and developing) walk out every year and go play for their rivals and other teams on their schedule.

Be careful what you wish for.

Student athletes do this anyway. Many take the summer classes and mini term classes because they are on campus anyway.

 

[you]

If 3-year grads who redshirted (and thus have 2 years remaining to play) get total freedom to transfer anywhere they want and play immediately, LOTS more kids are going to start taking enough summer classes to graduate early and give themselves that option. Teams (including Tennessee) could have 10-15 of their most experienced players (they spent 3-4 years and lots of $s educating and developing) walk out every year and go play for their rivals and other teams on their schedule.

Be careful what you wish for.

You make good points here, but I still like the transfer rule. It’s difficult to graduate in three years. Don’t make it sound like anyone can do it. Also, college football should be academic first. You’re argument makes football more important than academics, which is another argument all together.

 

[walkenvol]

If 3-year grads who redshirted (and thus have 2 years remaining to play) get total freedom to transfer anywhere they want and play immediately, LOTS more kids are going to start taking enough summer classes to graduate early and give themselves that option. Teams (including Tennessee) could have 10-15 of their most experienced players (they spent 3-4 years and lots of $s educating and developing) walk out every year and go play for their rivals and other teams on their schedule.

Be careful what you wish for.

If you're running a program where your upper class men haven't fully bought in and aren't the player leadership, then you don't deserve for any of them to stick around. Your program is in disarray if this were happening.

Also, isn't it disingenuous to act like a football program bringing in $50-100 million annually and a coach making $7 mil somehow own a player because they invested $30-50 thousand annually in a young man to see if he can be a part of their cash cow? There should be no transfer rules for athletes beyond those for any other students except that the athletes have to initiate all contact. It's pretty much that way in minor sports already.

 

[Brillovol]

If 3-year grads who redshirted (and thus have 2 years remaining to play) get total freedom to transfer anywhere they want and play immediately, LOTS more kids are going to start taking enough summer classes to graduate early and give themselves that option. Teams (including Tennessee) could have 10-15 of their most experienced players (they spent 3-4 years and lots of $s educating and developing) walk out every year and go play for their rivals and other teams on their schedule.

Be careful what you wish for.

I’m okay with that and understand this goes both ways. It’s only fair to the student athlete.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

This kid can play it out in the press and go wherever he wants. A cornerback Smith did this to Bama and joined Kirby just a few years back.

 

[SCvol333]

If 3-year grads who redshirted (and thus have 2 years remaining to play) get total freedom to transfer anywhere they want and play immediately, LOTS more kids are going to start taking enough summer classes to graduate early and give themselves that option. Teams (including Tennessee) could have 10-15 of their most experienced players (they spent 3-4 years and lots of $s educating and developing) walk out every year and go play for their rivals and other teams on their schedule.

Be careful what you wish for.

So we downside is that kids will push themselves to graduate early...

Seems like a pretty good worst case scenario

 

[chargervol]

If 3-year grads who redshirted (and thus have 2 years remaining to play) get total freedom to transfer anywhere they want and play immediately, LOTS more kids are going to start taking enough summer classes to graduate early and give themselves that option. Teams (including Tennessee) could have 10-15 of their most experienced players (they spent 3-4 years and lots of $s educating and developing) walk out every year and go play for their rivals and other teams on their schedule.

Be careful what you wish for.

I understand your point but I just don't agree, even if at UT.

All schools recruit these kids hoping they're good enough to be gone in 3 years, a 4th year or reaching graduation, is all gravy. After that, any kid should be able to look out for his own future.

If after 3-4 years at UT, a kid would rather play for one of our rivals instead of hating them, we didn't sell him on something.

It would suck but I just have no desire to put any kind of hostage restrictions on a kid that came in and tried to be great for us first.

 

[BondJamesBond]

If 3-year grads who redshirted (and thus have 2 years remaining to play) get total freedom to transfer anywhere they want and play immediately, LOTS more kids are going to start taking enough summer classes to graduate early and give themselves that option. Teams (including Tennessee) could have 10-15 of their most experienced players (they spent 3-4 years and lots of $s educating and developing) walk out every year and go play for their rivals and other teams on their schedule.

Be careful what you wish for.

Heaven forbid kids should have a say in their future. I mean, football teams investing in player development only to get hosed when the kids is ready to contribute. I'm sure the NCAA will make sure that doesn't happen. Schools will maintain all the leverage.

 

[BruinVol]

Don't know that they need a 6th year unless they have been injured. I will have to think more about that one.

Think about it this way. Many freshmen have no say so in their first year and coaches make a decision for them to redshirt. That same kid graduates after 4 years and really wants a 2 year graduate program. That's when you reward that kid with a second RS year by allowing him to transfer out, sit out a year, play in year 6 and actually get a graduate degree

 

[ob79]

Here is my take, as I know everyone has been waiting for it. The kid signed a NLOI to play for Bama and in exchange, he would have his education paid for. He is now a graduate, and that agreement has been fulfilled. He is not under any contract when it comes to his remaining years of collegiate eligibility. I would enroll where ever the heck I wanted and tell little Nicky to sue me.


Of course I don't know how the NLOI language reads and that may be a bad idea.



Anyway, screw Nick Saban.

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[Tidal Surge]

Alabama blocking offensive lineman Brandon Kennedy from transferring to SEC schools (SEC Country)

Earlier this week it was reported that Alabama offensive lineman Brandon Kennedy would be transferring from Alabama. However, according to al.com’s Matt Zeintz, Kennedy might not be able to transfer to two of his top choices, which happen to be in the SEC.

Kennedy is interested in transferring to either Auburn or Tennessee. But Alabama is blocking Kennedy from transferring to SEC schools. Alabama is also reportedly blocking him from transferring to any future Alabama non-conference opponents. This is standard practice, even in Kennedy’s case who is a graduate transfer.

This isn’t the first time in recent memory an Alabama player has wanted to transfer to an SEC school. Two seasons ago, Maurice Smith wanted to transfer from Alabama to Georgia, so he could play for Kirby Smart who was a former Alabama coach. It’s worth mentioning that Tennessee is now coached by former Alabama defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt.

In the last two seasons, two other SEC players have transferred between SEC schools, running back David Williams went from South Carolina to Arkansas and defensive back Nick Harvey went from Texas A&M to South Carolina.

Kennedy was the backup center for Alabama and is in the process of appealing this ruling. Smith was eventually allowed to transfer to Georgia, were he went on to be a key player for the Bulldogs. But Smith only had one season of eligibility, while Kennedy would have multiple seasons. And at Georgia Smith did not face Alabama, while Auburn and Tennessee play Alabama every year.

 

[VolInDayton]

Report: Alabama blocking offensive lineman Brandon Kennedy from transferring to SEC schools (SEC Country)

In a system where the players have no control, the should be able to grad transfer to any university. After all they are student athletes so they should be able to make what they feel is the best choice for their graduate degree.

 

[SDV]

I dont know why Saban gives a ****. Not like we’re going to beat them

 

[PYSCHO]

I dont know why Saban gives a ****. Not like we’re going to beat them

Because saban is a dick has been and always will be. He is a good coach but stuff like this just what a deep down midget prick he really is in real life. You really think that he cares about these kids if so you are fooling yourselves.

 

[Mike4Vols]

I would love for this situation to be the catalyst for wholesale change. Denying a kid the opportunity to continue his playing career and education at another school is borderline slavery --- no matter the current rules or 'contract'. He fulfilled his obligation to the school and graduated with his degree.

The system needs to be blown up and recreated.

 

[Tidal Surge]

In a system where the players have no control, the should be able to grad transfer to any university. After all they are student athletes so they should be able to make what they feel is the best choice for their graduate degree.

I read that Brandon Kennedy has already taken some grad courses at UA. So apparently he is able to obtain his desired grad degree at UA.

He's also been granted a transfer release to attend any non-SEC school that's not scheduled to play UA during his remaining playing eligibility.

UA is not in favor of the NCAA being able to force it to develop players for UT and AU. Nor should AU and UT be in favor of the NCAA being able to force them to develop players for competitors that they play against.

It's a 2-way street. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[BruinVol]

I read that Brandon Kennedy has already taken some grad courses at UA. So apparently he is able to obtain his desired grad degree at UA.

Not good at all

 

[ThreatLevelOrange]

It sure would be nice to see something hurt Alabama’s recruiting. “You sign with me and I own you...even after you graduate.” Program above player.

Alabama has a lot of players transfer so they have to think it may happen to them at some point. Nick will take a hard line until $EC or NCAA decides for him. We won’t beat them this year, and it’s not as if we don’t have anyone who used to work for Alabama working for us. He should apply that paranoia elsewhere.

I bet he’ll go somewhere like Kentucky that’s not on their schedule.