'15 NM QB Zach Gentry

[wU-Tang Vol]

Lol oh that game

I hate that game. For every Jordan Matthews, there are 10,000,000 Woody Quinn's

 

[sigchig]

He goes to the same high school as Jim Everett. Brian Urlacher was from a New Mexico high school that is far less known for its football. Players can play.

Check that, Chris Everett.

:lolabove:
Jim Rome is burning!

I bet he don't call him that after getting smacked by him.

Here you go fellas!

Jim Chris Everett confronts Jim Rome - YouTube

 

[sigchig]

I hate that game. For every Jordan Matthews, there are 10,000,000 Woody Quinn's

Poor Woody....named after an erect phallus. Dad must have been a real Richard.

 

[LotteryPick]

Jordan Matthews says hi

Name some more.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Name some more.

Mike Evans, Ray Rice, Chris Johnson

 

[LotteryPick]

Mike Evans, Ray Rice, Chris Johnson

Played in Texas, had PSU and Cuse offers, held back by injuries.

Regardless, you're talking about a minuscule group of guys.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

It's still early. When CBJ took E Moseleys commitment Charlotte was his only other offer. We'll see what happens. I'm curious to see how Nathan does at the Opening. I'm hoping he shows out and his offers start to roll in.

Where did you see he was invited to the opening because he wasn't on the official roster they tweeted out tonight of people that already got invited

 

[Smokey 77]

Come on Zach! We are waiting!!!

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Where did you see he was invited to the opening because he wasn't on the official roster they tweeted out tonight of people that already got invited

I thought someone in his thread said he was invited to the Opening. I figured it was because of the Sparq score he posted.

Volnut1 posted it in the Cottrell thread on March 28th.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Played in Texas, had PSU and Cuse offers, held back by injuries.

Regardless, you're talking about a minuscule group of guys.

Irrelevant. Offer lists mean nothing. Just like high school competition. These things are trivial when it comes to how good a player can be. It boils down to hard work, talent and coaching.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

Irrelevant. Offer lists mean nothing. Just like high school competition. These things are trivial when it comes to how good a player can be. It boils down to hard work, talent and coaching.

I always looked at offer lists as a decent gauge to how sought after a kid was. Especially early on in the process. After seeing UT tossing out offers like they have and then realizing that a UT "offer" means very little beyond "we are looking at you and may recruit you" that has changed for me. Multiple trips to see a kid now seems to me to be a little better gauge on how interested the coaches really are. How many coaches spend time with the recruit when he is on campus. Things like that IMO gives a better feel for how much the staff actually likes the kid.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The Opening 2014 l The Official Roster

List of athletes invited it the opening so far, no cottrell

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

The Opening 2014 l The Official Roster

List of athletes invited it the opening so far, no cottrell

Good enough for me. Looks like Volnut1 was misinformed. Sucks as I was hoping to see the kid light it up again.

 

[TMatthews19]

I hope CBJ is ready to accept Zach's commitment (if UT is where he wants to be.) I don't want to gamble with Gibson until December or January.

 

[utvol372]

Irrelevant. Offer lists mean nothing. Just like high school competition. These things are trivial when it comes to how good a player can be. It boils down to hard work, talent and coaching.

You're following the same logic of MLB scouts who denied the value of sabermetrics 10 years ago. Now, all those guys are out of jobs.

You're right, there's always exceptions, but there is also firm quantitative proof that offers from elite schools is a firm indicator of heightened potential for success at the next level. Outliers do not disprove that notion, sorry.

 

[AV_12]

The Opening 2014 l The Official Roster

List of athletes invited it the opening so far, no cottrell

Where did that rumor come from anyways?

 

[LotteryPick]

Irrelevant. Offer lists mean nothing. Just like high school competition. These things are trivial when it comes to how good a player can be. It boils down to hard work, talent and coaching.

Offer lists mean quite a bit. Keep on, though.

 

[LotteryPick]

You're following the same logic of MLB scouts who denied the value of sabermetrics 10 years ago. Now, all those guys are out of jobs.

You're right, there's always exceptions, but there is also firm quantitative proof that offers from elite schools is a firm indicator of heightened potential for success at the next level. Outliers do not disprove that notion, sorry.

Spot on.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

You're following the same logic of MLB scouts who denied the value of sabermetrics 10 years ago. Now, all those guys are out of jobs.

You're right, there's always exceptions, but there is also firm quantitative proof that offers from elite schools is a firm indicator of heightened potential for success at the next level. Outliers do not disprove that notion, sorry.

I would agree with you if these outliers were not happening every year. Every year, all around the country there are players who play well beyond their star ranking. Elite school offers are a best guess on whether or not a recruit has big time potential. It is not stated fact. If that were the case then every 4* and 5* star guys would turn out to be deserving of their ranking. That is not the case.

An offer list only means that a player has impressed the coaches enough to see possible future potential. That alone however does not mean that player is going to be successful. It also does not mean that a player who has little to know offers cannot become superstars. I really don't see how this is confusing. Sorry but like I said offer lists do not make the player. Hard work, talent and coaching does.

 

[Nashvegas31]

Where did that rumor come from anyways?

The people in his thread saying he is better than Taj Griffin, etc. so his family and friends basically

 

[Kurtastrophe]

I would agree with you if these outliers were not happening every year. Every year, all around the country there are players who play well beyond their star ranking. Elite school offers are a best guess on whether or not a recruit has big time potential. It is not stated fact. If that were the case then every 4* and 5* star guys would turn out to be deserving of their ranking. That is not the case.

An offer list only means that a player has impressed the coaches enough to see possible future potential. That alone however does not mean that player is going to be successful. It also does not mean that a player who has little to know offers cannot become superstars. I really don't see how this is confusing. Sorry but like I said offer lists do not make the player. Hard work, talent and coaching does.

As a person who does not coach football, I prefer a 4 star with elite offers over a 4 star with no offers.

 

[Ron Swanson]

From a thread on VQ about the new QB UT offered. Someone asked if Texas leads for Gentry...

I think there is more worry about Alabama than Texas for Gentry after talking to a few people. Bama has really focused their QB efforts on him recently.

I wouldn't say they are the favorite, just that they've turned up the heat. Still think Tennessee is in a good spot, but like I've been saying this one isn't over and with Alabama turning up the heat it could get interesting.

-Fortenberry

 

[ACvol3]

Cornwell recruitment 2.0? Hopefully not

 

[Glitch]

Cornwell recruitment 2.0? Hopefully not

 

[Jackcrevol]

cornwell isnt zach. zach isnt david cornwell, nuwhutimean? gentry fits our offense