'15 TN ATH Jocquez Bruce (UT commit 6/17/14)

i just saw the hit by joc on espn was a good hit .i hate that people seem to always bash kids from Tennessee especially from east Tenneessee like they are no good or they dont play against good teams . there have been a bunch of great players from here play at UT and other fbs schools .UT has missed out on great players in their own backyard .NFL guys like Cobb cause of that kind of thinking .
 
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Is "throat punch" what they call I DON' T THINK THE KID IS THAT GOOD nowadays? I personally think he is and that's why Butch offered him...but expressing the opposite opinion shouldn't be considered an assault on the kid! Joc can go one of two ways on this (since he reads this board)...continue to ball out and live a dream most of couldn't imagine, by running through the T next season...or curl up in a shell because of a mean VN poster and check out the fine program at Carson-Newman. :angdev:

soooo....everyone is allowed a voice on this message board...unless they are a commit?

Seems like you smacked the kid down for responding to PERSONAL criticism on a message board
 
soooo....everyone is allowed a voice on this message board...unless they are a commit?

Seems like you smacked the kid down for responding to PERSONAL criticism on a message board

Eagerly awaiting his response on here...I support his place on the team...I also support posters ability to express their views on here...within reason (nothing personal or slanderous)...don't see where I "smacked the kid down"...show me and I'll work on it. :hi:
 
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Can we get a NEW RULE?

If you have nothing nice to say about a current recruit or commit and you're a true Vol fan, then please don't comment. Go find a recruit you like in the recruiting thread and go comment something nice about them. This way everyone wins and we don't have to worry about our opinions possibly preventing a game changer from coming to this University for the next 3-5 years.

I think that's fair and logical.

Ok Hitler, Kill anyone who says anything negative about the Nazis. Don't you like freedom of speech? You're basically suggesting message board Fascism.
 
And I respect your opinion, BOT. As it applies to Joc - first and second hand knowledge since I reside fairly close and have a close family member that works at South Doyle as well as having seen him play - HUDL doesn't tell the story. The kid knows the game inside and out with heart. Wherever the coaches want him to play he will excel. I love him on offense personally. His versatility as a change of pace RB and in the slot is where I like him most. But I can also see him on D at safety or nickel. There are no known character or academics issues. Several folks are watching out for him.

Respect everything you said here. As I have stated, I could be wrong on this guy. Truth be told that is case more often than not.
 
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Watching his hudl film he is listed as a RB/DB. I will go off of that. As a RB he has good speed and decent cut back abilities. However comparing him to our other RB's he just doesn't seem to be on the same level.

As a DB, again he has good closing speed. It also seems he has some decent hands as well. Again though comparing him to other DB we have committed and on the roster, I just don't think he is on their level.

So sorry but that is why I am just unimpressed with him. It has nothing to do with his ranking or star level. Miller is a 3* DB, the same as Bruce, but I think Miller's game is better. Not saying that it is a major determining factor but look at the offer lists between the two.

So Bruce is not going to play RB here. Highly doubtful he plays WR. Especially if CBJ can flip Jefferson or get Newsome (no guarantees). Even missing out on those guys we have Wharton to play the slot. So that leaves the possibility of DB. We are recruiting guys like Martin, Abernathy and Brazil. I just don't think he is on either of those guys level. So where does he really fit in?

So that's why I am unimpressed with him. I am comparing him to guys we already have and one we have good shots at getting. I would like to know if you honestly feel Bruce looks any better than anyone we are recruiting for the positions he is listed to play at. Having said all of that, I have been wrong a lot more times than right. So who knows. I hope that clarifies things.

This, I think, is a cogent and fair response. I don't entirely disagree with it, but I think Joc stays on regardless of what transpires because 1) He's a local kid that bleeds orange and loves UT, and 2) He has the intangibles, toughness, and work ethic that Butch Jones loves. I think he will be a 'glue' sort of guy- think Bobby Graham from a few years back or Dane Bradshaw in MBB- that all great teams seem to have.

I'd like to add that the kid has all this AND is a very good athlete. His skill shouldn't be overlooked.
 
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"Routinely"?....we're having this discussion because I'm defending the right of a dude I "routinely" disagree with, to express his opinion on a recruit...and I don't even share that opinion! I don't even think you read this thread...you saw butchna on there and jumped feet first with your programmed agenda...I think you're a computer simulation program drummed up by some Cal Tech or somesuch poster who's taken a disliking to me...hence the 1940s lingo and robotic lack of personality (clown shoes?)...I "routinely" defend recruits and am a staunch opponent of "recruiting over"...your whole spiel is based on my belief that Torrance Gibson wasn't a fit...a majority of the vitriolic back and forths that I was engaged in on those threads also involved the poster I'm defending on this one! I'm on here a lot?...yeah. Why are you so worried about that? And for you to constantly talk about my age as if you're a spring flower? How come most of your dialogue sounds like you were a script writer for Abbott and Costello meets Frankenstein? And your inference that I use personal problems to bail out? Shame on you little robot...I created a cancer to inflict on my wife of 17 years so I could eventually use it as a crutch on a message board? I'm sorry that Boardwalk Empire ended it's run and you have no one else that talks like you...but don't take it out on me.

I some how missed this, but this is one of the funniest post I've ever seen on this site. You are a unique and funny man butchna. :):lol::focus:
 
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I some how missed this, but this is one of the funniest post I've ever seen on this site. You are a unique and funny man butchna. :):lol::focus:

Thanks Keck...more impressive due to the hindrance of straitjacket constraint. :w00t:
 
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I may having a differing point of view from you guys... But, from watching him juke people it reminds me a little of Vic Wharton's highlight tape.
 
I hear his ankle is in pretty bad shape.. So SD will have to rely on their 3rd+ string rbs to carry the load against Seymour this week.. They should be ok this game, but hope he recovers quick.
 
I truly hope this is made up but I heard Joc tweeted(dont have twitter, cant confirm) that he needs to stop reading his recruit page on Volnation. If true I just want to say the University of Tennessee is lucky to have Joc. He is a TN boy and a true VFL. It means alot that guys like Joc are still VFLs when theyve had plenty of reasons to find a more successful team while growing up during a rough patch for the good guys. If this is made up thats even better, and im sorry for the rant....but its well known that these guys do read these sites.
 
I truly hope this is made up but I heard Joc tweeted(dont have twitter, cant confirm) that he needs to stop reading his recruit page on Volnation. If true I just want to say the University of Tennessee is lucky to have Joc. He is a TN boy and a true VFL. It means alot that guys like Joc are still VFLs when theyve had plenty of reasons to find a more successful team while growing up during a rough patch for the good guys. If this is made up thats even better, and im sorry for the rant....but its well known that these guys do read these sites.

Its an honor to be recruited by UT.. We don't owe anybody anything.
 
I truly hope this is made up but I heard Joc tweeted(dont have twitter, cant confirm) that he needs to stop reading his recruit page on Volnation. If true I just want to say the University of Tennessee is lucky to have Joc. He is a TN boy and a true VFL. It means alot that guys like Joc are still VFLs when theyve had plenty of reasons to find a more successful team while growing up during a rough patch for the good guys. If this is made up thats even better, and im sorry for the rant....but its well known that these guys do read these sites.

Its true. I was the one who put a post in this thread about how I don't think he is that good. It was in no way bashing the guy. I compared him to some guys we are recruiting and already have on campus at the same position he is projected at. I just don't see where he fits in. I also said he might be asked to go elsewhere. And I also said I could be totally wrong and if he is a Vol come NSD, then I am behind him 100%.

No offense to him or anyone else but this is a message board. I have read many other threads where people have expressed their opinions about recruits and they are not always positive. He should not let someones opinion get under his skin. Honestly, I doubt he took what I said seriously anyway.
 
Not sure how some.people gather what they do from certain posts on here. You can say whatever u. want, its a message board and this, for now is still Merica. I was simply saying with alot of TN boys going elsewhere the last several years, its nice to see some state pride in guys like Joc. That is all
 
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Not sure how some.people gather what they do from certain posts on here. You can say whatever u. want, its a message board and this, for now is still Merica. I was simply saying with alot of TN boys going elsewhere the last several years, its nice to see some state pride in guys like Joc. That is all

I didn't mean anything by the post. Just wanted you to get the full story.
 
I truly hope this is made up but I heard Joc tweeted(dont have twitter, cant confirm) that he needs to stop reading his recruit page on Volnation. If true I just want to say the University of Tennessee is lucky to have Joc. He is a TN boy and a true VFL. It means alot that guys like Joc are still VFLs when theyve had plenty of reasons to find a more successful team while growing up during a rough patch for the good guys. If this is made up thats even better, and im sorry for the rant....but its well known that these guys do read these sites.

If your name was on the recruiting forum, would you read it? I most definitely would! Does that mean it would cause JB to decommit? Who knows, but I wish ppl would think twice before they trash talk a 17 year old kid that wants to play football at our beloved university!
 
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This kid is a great athlete. You get him on campus, and find out where he fits best. Reminds me of a former Tennessee player from Hillsboro High School.
 
If your name was on the recruiting forum, would you read it? I most definitely would! Does that mean it would cause JB to decommit? Who knows, but I wish ppl would think twice before they trash talk a 17 year old kid that wants to play football at our beloved university!

It's funny that I support this kid but have been put on the opposite side of this (non)debate by supporting a poster who expresses doubt of him being in this class...this kid was never "trash talk"ed in this thread...not flaming this guy I'm responding to, but everyone needs to go back and read BOT's actual post...I'm sure the regular thought police types will still rail on anything not 100% positive, but this board was set up by an ultimate Vol fan...who lets it succeed by allowing different opinions and personalities to flow...it's not a rah rah pumpfest and any recruit and/or his parents need to recognize that. Butch isn't a member (that we know of) of this mess, so if a prospect bases his commitment on what we say here? Something else would probably go wrong. You crusaders for a vanilla greeting card site for recruits probably need to get your own Freak and set up your own board...you won't be missed.
 
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It's funny that I support this kid but have been put on the opposite side of this (non)debate by supporting a poster who expresses doubt of him being in this class...this kid was never "trash talk"ed in this thread...not flaming this guy I'm responding to, but everyone needs to go back and read BOT's actual post...I'm sure the regular thought police types will still rail on anything not 100% positive, but this board was set up by an ultimate Vol fan...who lets it succeed by allowing different opinions and personalities to flow...it's not a rah rah pumpfest and any recruit and/or his parents need to recognize that. Butch isn't a member (that we know of) of this mess, so if a prospect bases his commitment on what we say here? Something else would probably go wrong. You crusaders for a vanilla greeting card site for recruits probably need to get your own Freak and set up your own board...you won't be missed.

Agree. It's the same mentality that some in politics use:

Disagree with me and you are a racist or you hate women, etc.

Unfortunately, Weak\Lazy minds think alike.:)
 
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