'15 TX QB Quinten Dormady (UT Commit 6/9/14)

[Vol865]

We also run all those plays. Almost every team in the country runs some form of trap, counter, sweep, and dive. We also have a zone blocking front on almost every play. You didn't even mention our passing offense... We use shorter routes to pull in the corners then go deep on their hineys.

I highly doubt we ran trap at any point last yr. If so, I dont recall.

I love trap.

 

[Nashvegas31]

What scheme are we running then?

Apparently the triple option

 

[Burger]

I highly doubt we ran trap at any point last yr. If so, I dont recall.

I love trap.

I don't think we had any guards who were quick enough. I know Butch ran it at Cincy.

 

[ACvol3]

I swear half the people on this board didn't watch a UT game all of last year and are making up their dream old school offense..

UT runs a power spread (one of the 1st statements ever made by CBJ as UT HC), with the qb needing to be able to make plays off the read.. It is what it is, but u people in dream land can keep thinking we are bama or '97 UT all u want.

 

[Wickman]

I swear half the people on this board didn't watch a UT game all of last year and are making up their dream old school offense..

UT runs a power spread (one of the 1st statements ever made by CBJ as UT HC), with the qb needing to be able to make plays off the read.. It is what it is, but u people in dream land can keep thinking we are bama or '97 UT all u want.

No one is saying that. Just that Dormady is more than capable of running a read option. Just because he isn't Braxton Miller doesn't mean he can't run it

 

[Burger]

I swear half the people on this board didn't watch a UT game all of last year and are making up their dream old school offense..

UT runs a power spread (one of the 1st statements ever made by CBJ as UT HC), with the qb needing to be able to make plays off the read.. It is what it is, but u people in dream land can keep thinking we are bama or '97 UT all u want.

We don't need a guy who is like Michael Vick either. We just need someone who can pull off reads and take them for 5-10 yards. Butch called these the gimme yards.

 

[ACvol3]

No one is saying that. Just that Dormady is more than capable of running a read option. Just because he isn't Braxton Miller doesn't mean he can't run it

Oh.. How does anybody know that? He doesn't run in his soph film and he doesn't have a junior film.. Hope ur right tho! Either way- em and JJ will be huge assets for us.

 

[ACvol3]

We don't need a guy who is like Michael Vick either. We just need someone who can pull off reads and take them for 5-10 yards. Butch called these the gimme yards.

Fwiw- I'd take college Vick in this offense over any other qb in the country.

 

[Vol865]

I swear half the people on this board didn't watch a UT game all of last year and are making up their dream old school offense..

UT runs a power spread (one of the 1st statements ever made by CBJ as UT HC), with the qb needing to be able to make plays off the read.. It is what it is, but u people in dream land can keep thinking we are bama or '97 UT all u want.

Power Spread entails that you run downhill

 

[VOLinNC]

Coach's Son. That's probably my favorite thing about Dormandy. We need to get him a play book ASAP so they can go thru it til January when he'll be an EE. He could potential be way above the learning curve come august 2015

 

[jave36]

We run the west coast out of shotgun with the read option being a play in our playbook. It's just like running a counter play or a sweep. It's not a whole different scheme.

This. We are not a zone read offense, which is most people's definition of spread. Alabama ran the spread offense plenty of times over the past few years, it just means you spread the defense out. Zone read/read option is not our offense.

 

[PassedOutAwake]

I cant believe it....

I get on to catch up.... and I actually agree with everything that Tux has said.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I cant believe it....

I get on to catch up.... and I actually agree with everything that Tux has said.

Maybe you have the flu and are a little delirious

 

[Enki_Amenra]

This. We are not a zone read offense, which is most people's definition of spread. Alabama ran the spread offense plenty of times over the past few years, it just means you spread the defense out. Zone read/read option is not our offense.

It reminds me of a veer option offense, except from the 'pistol' or 'shotgun' set.

It also reminds me a little of a pro-wing set sometimes, when they run slot sweeps... a couple different steps and those sweeps could easily be turned into counter traps from a wing back.

 

[PerneVedisUncool]

Patrick, Butch is no longer coaching in the MAC or Big East. he is coaching in the SEC and against the biggest and fastest defensive linemen in all of college football. He is also playing with a full set of tall, fast, future 1st round draft picks at WR, which he never had at either of his previous stops. What he did in the past is now null and void. He is adapting his offense to fit his personnel and against better athletes and defenses. He understands that he has to have a healthy QB who can deliver the ball to playmakers on his team, which are his WRs.

That's because these aren't his personnel

 

[VolSteve]

and in CBJ's offense (from a statistical analysis over his career as a head coach) the QB is a play-maker and carries the ball 1 out of every 5 rushing plays so he expects to have his qb make not only plays in the passing game (and getting the ball in the play-makers hands) but also in the run game. A QB who runs the ball 1 out of every 5 rushing plays is not just trying to keep the defense honest.

:whistling:

 

[Montrell Hardy]

Dobbs is NOT a 4.5 guy. We've all seen him run. If he ever runs a sub 4.6 I'll be shocked. You need pretty near perfect form to break 4.6,and his is nowhere near that.

Look at combine times for NFL players who are obviously faster than Dobbs.

Point being, QD is plenty fast enough for us.

99% of 40 times are complete BS. You see that proven when the NFL combine takes place and 4.4 guys in HS run 4.6 and 4.7's.

I'm with you on Dobbs, he's definitely not a burner, he can get your yards if he needs to but he doesn't run like someone in the 4.6 or 4.7 range.

 

[Montrell Hardy]

I did say Butch would adjust the o if Dormady starts. If its JJ or TG he will run the whole o.

Why would he adjust the O? He is every bit as athletic as Brendan Kay and Zach Collaros were and he didn't adjust the offense for them and they both put up solid rushing numbers. A pro-style QB fits just fine in this offense. Not sure where in the world this adjustment stuff is coming from. It's all about deception off the read option, the QB just has to be willing to keep the ball when he has a wide open lane, something Worley didn't do last year that he should have done on a number of occasions.

 

[MockingVol]

I figure I could stay away from this thread for a while since we got the guy, but look at all these people who are incapable of reading posts.

As Leb, Tux, others, and I have stated a ridiculous amount of times so far in this thread, we don't need a run first quarterback. We are not Auburn or OSU, we just want our our QB to be able to pick up the yards that are presented to him when the DE crashes inside. The QB only has to keep the ball around 5 times a game to not only keep the defense honest but to also pick up a pretty good deal of rushing yards. For the most part our offense is going to be about spreading out the defensive backfield with shorter routes so that we can strike them over the top with our grade A recievers.

Also I can't believe people are using his sophomore stats to prove he is "unathletic". The kid only rushed 18 times? No he was more than likely sacked that many times which is why he had negative rushing yardage. His HS offense never calls for him to run, but at both camps and as a baseball player he has proven himself to be plenty athletic.

I guess I can address one more thing. Yes, we are still recruiting TG. Just like last year and this year when CBJ has continued to recruit kids he had no intentions of taking just because you never know what might happen in recruiting. You have to have your ass covered. Butch was recruiting Harrel and Johnson, even talking them up, but was he willing to take their commitment? Nope. I kind of laugh at those who still or ever believed that TG is number one on our board. What made you think that, a gut feeling? You do realize this staff tells basically every recruit that they are their number one guy and that they'd love to have them. It's just recruiting speak. The only way to tell who was truly high up the board is who commits to us or has us scrambling because they committed elsewhere.

 

[OldVol49vfl]

Butch's past tendencies were to recruit WRs who were about 5'9". Now he is recruiting WRs who are about 6'3-6'5". His teams also ran and threw more short routes in his passing route tree. At UT, he has included more vertical routes.

Expect several more adaptations to his offense as he grows more familiar with SEC defensive size and speed.

Tux, In the past I've disagreed with several of your postings, but I'm with you 100% on this issue. A good or great coach like Butch will always adapt to the situation. In this case he will adjust his offense to the type players available, he will not adjust this type of player to his offense. Great RB's and WR's will require an adjustment to his offense so he can take advantage of them.

 

[LebanonVolunteer]

:zeitung_lesen:

Yup, still looks like a wonderful pickup to me.

 

[griddie]

Tremendous pick up for us. Prior to injury would have been a Top 100 player in the nation and will end up a 4 star and much higher ranked. easily one of top 10 best qb prospects in the nation and may end up higher than that. this one fell in our lap boys.

 

[butchna]

I swear half the people on this board didn't watch a UT game all of last year and are making up their dream old school offense..

UT runs a power spread (one of the 1st statements ever made by CBJ as UT HC), with the qb needing to be able to make plays off the read.. It is what it is, but u people in dream land can keep thinking we are bama or '97 UT all u want.

"Power Spread" was coined by Erik Ainge on TSR...in an interview Butch took a liking to it and has used it since...the fault with posters using statistics and previous coaching stops in gauging BUTCH'S offense, is pigeonholing his system which is apparently flexible...Lefevour didn't rush for a 1000 every year in it...and didn't in his most successful season...Butch seems to have preferred Legaux but Kay was the more successful and effective fit...if we hadn't hired Butch, we'd have seen him entrust a full season to the less athletic option...because like all coaches you learn to go with what works! He coached under Rich Rodriguez, so some assume he's a devotee to RichRod's tenets...not true...he grew up in Big 10 country and most likely caught a Bo Schembechler production on the tube whilst changing clothes between jobs...he knows what he wants on the field and has offered Dual Threat prototypes such as David Cornwell and Josh Rosen the past two years...posters criticizing these offers need to ask themselves "Why doesn't Butch know as much as I DO about HIS SYSTEM?" :blink:

 

[JohnMarxism]

99% of 40 times are complete BS. You see that proven when the NFL combine takes place and 4.4 guys in HS run 4.6 and 4.7's.

I'm with you on Dobbs, he's definitely not a burner, he can get your yards if he needs to but he doesn't run like someone in the 4.6 or 4.7 range.

Agreed. High school coaches are infamous of either human error, bias, or a mixture of both to make players seem faster than they really are.

 

[MockingVol]

I just realized how long that post I made was. Good lord next time I should offer that book as a hard cover copy