'16 NJ DT Rashan Gary

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They really got roseboro by default. He will be a good player but hes not in the same class as dexter or shy. Why a lot of teams pulled bqck from him. Fraiser just wanted to be near mama. Their class this year is sad. It would be lawrence and a sack of potatos
 
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They actually pulled three 4* RB last year. E McGirt was a nice get as well. I mean, it's NC State. Last year's class was pretty impressive for them. They'll never have a top 10 class.

I disagree about Roseboro. Several teams still would have taken him in a heartbeat. I think he was a huge recruiting win for NC State. But no, he wasn't a top 10 player by any means.
 
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Last year was a nice class but things broke right. I thi k roseboro is a nice player, great kid, hard worker. Will do great there. Lots of teams would ave taken him sure. Hes sort of a tweener though and sort of stiff.
 
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Back to Gary...

From Scout today. See what I mean:

Louisiana State Tigers Football, Basketball, and Recruiting Front Page

LSU is recruiting him as a 5-technique DE lol. Kid would be hard to contain at that spot. He loves Ed Orgeron.

Top 5 expected soon. Likely LSU as the leader with Michigan, Penn State, Alabama, and UGA. Auburn, Tennessee and Ohio State don't appear to be candidates for that list.
 
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VolDango said:
Back to Gary...

From Scout today. See what I mean:

Louisiana State Tigers Football, Basketball, and Recruiting Front Page

LSU is recruiting him as a 5-technique DE lol. Kid would be hard to contain at that spot. He loves Ed Orgeron.

Top 5 expected soon. Likely LSU as the leader with Michigan, Penn State, Alabama, and UGA. Auburn, Tennessee and Ohio State don't appear to be candidates for that list.
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Orgeron is definitely a Power House recruiter. We can hope he gets LSU in some hot water at some point.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Hopefully he stays out of the SEC
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I don't know why folks keep saying this. Its better for us in the long run if every elite player chooses to play in the SEC. The more elite recruits in the SEC. The more of them get drafted. The more attention it brings to future recruits to wanna play at an SEC school. A rising tide raises all boats. The more talent in the SEC, the more talent will come to Tennessee.

Don't think for one second that the prestige the SEC garnered from those 7 straight national titles didn't help Butch Jones get players during those his first two recruiting classes. Elite players wanna play in the SEC. And its good for us if year in year out all the top players chooose SEC schools. It means we'll be getting our share.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I don't know why folks keep saying this. Its better for us in the long run if every elite player chooses to play in the SEC. The more elite recruits in the SEC. The more of them get drafted. The more attention it brings to future recruits to wanna play at an SEC school. A rising tide raises all boats. The more talent in the SEC, the more talent will come to Tennessee.

Don't think for one second that the prestige the SEC garnered from those 7 straight national titles didn't help Butch Jones get players during those his first two recruiting classes. Elite players wanna play in the SEC. And its good for us if year in year out all the top players chooose SEC schools. It means we'll be getting our share.
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Hasn't worked out very well for UK and Vandy has it? Just curious, are you one of the guys who cheer for the SEC when they are playing other conferences? I'd rather guys like Gary go elsewhere than UGA or Bama where we have to play elite talent every year.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I don't know why folks keep saying this. Its better for us in the long run if every elite player chooses to play in the SEC. The more elite recruits in the SEC. The more of them get drafted. The more attention it brings to future recruits to wanna play at an SEC school. A rising tide raises all boats. The more talent in the SEC, the more talent will come to Tennessee.

Don't think for one second that the prestige the SEC garnered from those 7 straight national titles didn't help Butch Jones get players during those his first two recruiting classes. Elite players wanna play in the SEC. And its good for us if year in year out all the top players chooose SEC schools. It means we'll be getting our share.
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Shut up, Meg.

J/k. Agreed.
 
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VolDango said:
Back to Gary...

From Scout today. See what I mean:

Louisiana State Tigers Football, Basketball, and Recruiting Front Page

LSU is recruiting him as a 5-technique DE lol. Kid would be hard to contain at that spot. He loves Ed Orgeron.

Top 5 expected soon. Likely LSU as the leader with Michigan, Penn State, Alabama, and UGA. Auburn, Tennessee and Ohio State don't appear to be candidates for that list.
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A 5-tech DE, you say?!

"It's just speculation that we're going to the 3-4" - Spankadelphia

Come get some crow, buddy.
 
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Catbone said:
Hasn't worked out very well for UK and Vandy has it? Just curious, are you one of the guys who cheer for the SEC when they are playing other conferences? I'd rather guys like Gary go elsewhere than UGA or Bama where we have to play elite talent every year.
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uhhh....yea. In the new playoff era, what fool doesn't root for the teams in their conference to kick the other conferences butts? I'm sure you don't want us to be like Baylor or TCU where we win our conference but don't make the playoffs because no one respects the conference we play in. There is a reason the SEC champ had the #1 seed in the playoff last year. There is a reason that in the pecking order of 1 loss teams during the BCS era, the SEC team almost always got in. At the end of the day, conference strength is vitally important if you wanna win national titles.

The dominance of Georgia and Alabama helps Tennessee. If you wanna be the best, your always gonna have to beat the best. No need to whine and cry about other SEC teams being dominant as well.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
uhhh....yea. In the new playoff era, what fool doesn't root for the teams in their conference to kick the other conferences butts? I'm sure you don't want us to be like Baylor or TCU where we win our conference but don't make the playoffs because no one respects the conference we play in. There is a reason the SEC champ had the #1 seed in the playoff last year. There is a reason that in the pecking order of 1 loss teams during the BCS era, the SEC team almost always got in. At the end of the day, conference strength is vitally important if you wanna win national titles.

The dominance of Georgia and Alabama helps Tennessee. If you wanna be the best, your always gonna have to beat the best. No need to whine and cry about other SEC teams being dominant as well.
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Lol well... you have fun cheering for Bama, FL, and UGA then...
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
uhhh....yea. In the new playoff era, what fool doesn't root for the teams in their conference to kick the other conferences butts? I'm sure you don't want us to be like Baylor or TCU where we win our conference but don't make the playoffs because no one respects the conference we play in. There is a reason the SEC champ had the #1 seed in the playoff last year. There is a reason that in the pecking order of 1 loss teams during the BCS era, the SEC team almost always got in. At the end of the day, conference strength is vitally important if you wanna win national titles.

The dominance of Georgia and Alabama helps Tennessee. If you wanna be the best, your always gonna have to beat the best. No need to whine and cry about other SEC teams being dominant as well.
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It also hurts Tennessee because if they are in that position and we aren't, it helps them and hurts us. It's a double edged sword.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I don't know why folks keep saying this. Its better for us in the long run if every elite player chooses to play in the SEC. The more elite recruits in the SEC. The more of them get drafted. The more attention it brings to future recruits to wanna play at an SEC school. A rising tide raises all boats. The more talent in the SEC, the more talent will come to Tennessee.

Don't think for one second that the prestige the SEC garnered from those 7 straight national titles didn't help Butch Jones get players during those his first two recruiting classes. Elite players wanna play in the SEC. And its good for us if year in year out all the top players chooose SEC schools. It means we'll be getting our share.
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100 percent agree with your statement
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I don't know why folks keep saying this. Its better for us in the long run if every elite player chooses to play in the SEC. The more elite recruits in the SEC. The more of them get drafted. The more attention it brings to future recruits to wanna play at an SEC school. A rising tide raises all boats. The more talent in the SEC, the more talent will come to Tennessee.

Don't think for one second that the prestige the SEC garnered from those 7 straight national titles didn't help Butch Jones get players during those his first two recruiting classes. Elite players wanna play in the SEC. And its good for us if year in year out all the top players chooose SEC schools. It means we'll be getting our share.
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The SEC has no problems recruiting elite talent and that's not going to change anytime soon. If you seriously think think if the SEC doesn't land the #1 recruit this year is going to hurt things you're crazy. I don't care about the east of the SEC. All I care about is Tennessee.

As far as Gary is concerned, this guy is a freak. I would love if we got him. That being said, I honestly don't want to have our offense to have to play against him. I guess all that SEC dominance has helped Vandy, UK, Arky and Mizzou with recruiting huh?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I don't know why folks keep saying this. Its better for us in the long run if every elite player chooses to play in the SEC. The more elite recruits in the SEC. The more of them get drafted. The more attention it brings to future recruits to wanna play at an SEC school. A rising tide raises all boats. The more talent in the SEC, the more talent will come to Tennessee.

Don't think for one second that the prestige the SEC garnered from those 7 straight national titles didn't help Butch Jones get players during those his first two recruiting classes. Elite players wanna play in the SEC. And its good for us if year in year out all the top players chooose SEC schools. It means we'll be getting our share.
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I don't think you're wrong but I think it's a false positive. Now if there's a paradigm shift and the Big 10 starts a 5-year streak then I'll agree.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I guess all that SEC dominance has helped Vandy, UK, Arky and Mizzou with recruiting huh?
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Kentucky is currently 19th (yes yes, we all know they'll fall some as teams pick up more recruits but still you cannot ignore that) and finished in the top 40 last year. They're at least recruiting better than their record.

Arkansas has finished in the top 30 the last 5 years (I didn't go back further than that) and finished in the top 23 3 of those years. Pretty damn good considering the HORRIBLE transition years they had.

Mizzou doesn't have flashy star ranking but as of this year they have 25 guys in the NFL and are ranked in the top 20 of schools producing NFL talent. You can coach guys up to be good but at some point you have to recognize coaching alone doesn't win all those games or get those guys to the next level. They have talent.

Vandy under a coach that had a pulse finished in the top 30 of the rankings a few times. Considering it's Vanderbilt that's borderline incredible. Gotta think having that SEC brand helped pull a few of those guys.

In short, yeah, the SEC dominance has probably helped them and every other team in the conference at least a little.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
It also hurts Tennessee because if they are in that position and we aren't, it helps them and hurts us. It's a double edged sword.
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What hurts us is we sucked. What difference would it make if everyone else in our conferece sucked and we rode that weak schedule to the playoffs only to get annihilated like Ohio State and Notre Dame did during the BCS era.

Maybe its just me, but I don't get a high off winning 10 or 11 games against bums. I want to win CHAMPIONSHIPS. And you win championships by beating the best. Not avoiding them.
 
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